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    Re: 09 F-150

    You guys don’t know what the hell you’re talking about
    You won’t ever find short cuts in any of my installs
    I have been building this type of set ups for over 20 years
    For your information I have actually fiber glassed several, several others
    Made absolutely no difference in sound or performance, only cost, time and smell

    I’m just sick of all the uninformed, unqualified attack dogs
    The type of people that would tell Tiger woods how to swing a golf club
    Or tell God how to create the universe
    Just because they think they know something about everything
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    Re: 09 F-150

    Nice setup man, looks so clean




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    Re: 09 F-150

    Quote Originally Posted by zierbox View Post
    You guys don’t know what the hell you’re talking about
    You won’t ever find short cuts in any of my installs
    I have been building this type of set ups for over 20 years
    For your information I have actually fiber glassed several, several others
    Made absolutely no difference in sound or performance, only cost, time and smell

    I’m just sick of all the uninformed, unqualified attack dogs
    The type of people that would tell Tiger woods how to swing a golf club
    Or tell God how to create the universe
    Just because they think they something about it

    Personally, id never tell God how to create the universe, as many shortcuts as i take, so many things would be left undone,

    And it was not a personally shot at your craftmanship, ive seen plenty of your builds over the years, (and read about several of them too, long before the "internet" was popular). I was just making the suggestion about fiberglassing that panel since it was a wall of the sub enclosure.

    I gave you a positive comment, as i have in previous build threads you have posted, because, I know how good of a installer you are. I just had a opinion about that box, I might be right, I might be wrong.

    It doesnt really matter in the long run, as long as the customer's happy, thats all that matters, correct?

    Otherwise, again, very nice build.



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    Re: 09 F-150

    Now I feel bad for reacting like an idiot
    Sorry for pop-n off like I did, I do apologize for my rudeness; I should have explained my self better, in stead of mouthing off like I accused other of doing

    I can be trusted normally
    I have experimented with similar designs like this for quite some time, using all types of factory spaces and surfaces when needed, when other options are limited
    There are situation they do require additional methods and materials; this was not one
    I have glassed in many other similar set-ups (with extreme power requirement or lower quality factory surface)
    I have duplicated a few builds in the exact same vehicles, and subs with and with-out the glass work, with no real sound difference. However I do admit in some applications and situation reinforced glass work can be required. Just not this one.
    Look at the factory floor, how it is heavily corrugated with all those humps. The floor is very strong and ridged

    I hope I have clarified my position with out offending anyone ells



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    Re: 09 F-150

    Quote Originally Posted by zierbox View Post
    You guys don’t know what the hell you’re talking about
    You won’t ever find short cuts in any of my installs
    I have been building this type of set ups for over 20 years
    For your information I have actually fiber glassed several, several others
    Made absolutely no difference in sound or performance, only cost, time and smell

    I’m just sick of all the uninformed, unqualified attack dogs
    The type of people that would tell Tiger woods how to swing a golf club
    Or tell God how to create the universe
    Just because they think they know something about everything
    did you just compare yourself to god?

    Edit: looks good though. Where are the amps going to be mounted?



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    Re: 09 F-150

    Quote Originally Posted by zierbox View Post
    Now I feel bad for reacting like an idiot
    Sorry for pop-n off like I did, I do apologize for my rudeness; I should have explained my self better, in stead of mouthing off like I accused other of doing

    I can be trusted normally
    I have experimented with similar designs like this for quite some time, using all types of factory spaces and surfaces when needed, when other options are limited
    There are situation they do require additional methods and materials; this was not one
    I have glassed in many other similar set-ups (with extreme power requirement or lower quality factory surface)
    I have duplicated a few builds in the exact same vehicles, and subs with and with-out the glass work, with no real sound difference. However I do admit in some applications and situation reinforced glass work can be required. Just not this one.
    Look at the factory floor, how it is heavily corrugated with all those humps. The floor is very strong and ridged

    I hope I have clarified my position with out offending anyone ells

    Touche' my friend, and I def understand where you are coming from. It can get a little fustrating to take shots for you hard work, esp when those shots come without a clear explanation. You have done this far more times then I lol, so im positive you know what your doing.

    Besides, you were doing Hi end Installs when I was still in HS. I still have the lowrider magazine from 95" (I believe) with the build you did for Profile around here somewhere.

    It happens, I could have clarified myself better too, moving on



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    Re: 09 F-150

    Didn’t mean to be such an ***; failed miserably

    i do have some pics of the glassed install, will look
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    Re: 09 F-150

    looks nice



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    Re: 09 F-150

    Quote Originally Posted by zierbox View Post
    You guys don’t know what the hell you’re talking about
    You won’t ever find short cuts in any of my installs
    I have been building this type of set ups for over 20 years
    For your information I have actually fiber glassed several, several others
    Made absolutely no difference in sound or performance, only cost, time and smell

    I’m just sick of all the uninformed, unqualified attack dogs
    The type of people that would tell Tiger woods how to swing a golf club
    Or tell God how to create the universe
    Just because they think they know something about everything
    D@MN RIGHT!!!! Everyone on here thinks they know all. Sick install man (as usual!) Chicks are gonna love that back seat :P




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    Re: 09 F-150

    looks nice.

    what are you going to do about the head unit? just a LOC?



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    Re: 09 F-150

    Looks bad *** hands down You got skills dont listen to any of these kids



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    Re: 09 F-150

    Quote Originally Posted by zierbox View Post
    Didn’t mean to be such an ***; failed miserably

    i do have some pics of the glassed install, will look
    some others

    You accidently mounted the amp upside down



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    Re: 09 F-150

    Very clean install! Nice work.



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