Attn: Cadence users and 8" fans!

[06goat]

Gotcha bro but it's no science. Altered motors, regardless they are slight alteration still affect everything in the gap. Do you remember the Brahma situation when they tried doing this with slightly smaller top and bottom plates? Same goes for SoundStream when they tried doing the same in their splx line and Neil Barber caught the design flaw. I believe a lot of that had to do though since it was Neil Barber they handled it in the right way. Here it appears that nobody has made a big enough stink for them to up their QC in China.

No specs yet either but I was hoping a "Speaker Company" , no names needed, would have the proper testing equipment to post them before I do.

Very good point here. Good luck to ya whatever happens. Im curious to see the outcome

[JL Audio]

cadence will lose many a customer over this, we don't take kindly to douchebaggery in these parts. So says ca.com.

[Sleeklsc]

I'd still buy from them..Good product at a great price.

[Fiendstolemyamp]

Never would have bought their **** anyway.

[DonWan]

A lot of people wonder why we nuthug Jacobs products.. He cares about his customers takes care of everything we ask, even ask us what we think about products etc... As for Cadence they obviously don't care and lie and cheat a "customer" He was just smart enough to catch it, and you guy's never even called him to try and fix this crap.. I call BS on your customer service, I will never buy from you and will continue to tell all my friends about how bad you handle customer service..

[kramer_212]

wha? this be crazy, should have at least put a diff model number.

[Sleeklsc]

With the very miniscule diff's 99% of people could care less. I highly doubt you'd even beable to hear a audible differance between the 2...It's still a beast either way.

This is being blown way out of porportion.

[puppet_1211]

im like this on the situation i have never owned anything cadence but i did go to their web page and ask about their 4 gauge wire about a week ago and have yet to get an awsner i had a friend buy sum cadence 12s and amp and i had sum crappy xplod 12s and a boss amp and still hit harder than him so i will never buy anything cadence either cadence=caca

[Dirtrider4eva]

ya know.. it seems like a bad situation for the buyer and seller.
from their perspective, although the motors are smaller by a pinch.. the price is 30 dollars cheeaper...
and as for their products, i wouldnt know, but i hear they have great amps.
for the buyer, he didnt get what he intentionally wanted. but OP at least test them to see if they compare.
if its about the same, take it. and idk... stay away from them i supposee.

[TnT_Sounds]

With the very miniscule diff's 99% of people could care less. I highly doubt you'd even beable to hear a audible differance between the 2...It's still a beast either way.

This is being blown way out of porportion.

See to the "average" joe schmo they probably wont hear a difference. Even some suffering from ear fatigue . I however can and would be able to tell a difference. I would like to hope they aren't marketing like this in hopes nobody catches what they have changed. The whole fact of the matter is it seems the changes were done in hopes no one finds out and everyone is happy. For some reason it seems to be taking longer than needed to come up with scientific proof that these will still perform the same in the same enclosures and play the same as the others. I think it's funny how I asked a simple question then just wanted to swap them for the others and I'm being accused of being "disgruntle" because I am questioning their product now on a public forum to expose what they did. All my theories are substantiated and have some relevance to them. I did some math and with the amount of steel taken out, it essentially makes every 23rd woofer motor free. If they are making as many of these as they claim then thats definitely a lot of free woofers.

Big deal or not altering top and bottom plates if the woofer was already good and to make it better by taking steel out so less gauss is in the gap is a pretty big deal to me. I like to hope my money is spent towards the same product I bought before that worked well for me.

Oh and lets not forget I am in someway "affiliated with their competition" and am making "malicious slander" because I have "always had a problem with Cadence" :rollseyes:

What I think would be funny is if there will be any other changes made after the 4th revision of the CVL8-500-4 after all this.

To Roy or Jake, I am free all day tomorrow doing payroll so my phone will be right next to me. As I said before I would like to simply swap these rev3 subs out for the rev2 ones that I have. I will be happy to apologize for the troubles and be on my marry way. I will even pay shipping. I will be happy to put all this behind me and settle this on good terms. I think i'm being very lenient about it. A simple refund isn't what I want as I like the rev2 series a lot and they work well for me and keep my record in Colorado. However I would really hate to switch to another brand but if this keeps being a run-around of story after story I will have no other choice but to take my money else where. Also I would have no problem showing my Cadence collection.

And my cell # is 719-320-8412

[whitedragon551]

im like this on the situation i have never owned anything cadence but i did go to their web page and ask about their 4 gauge wire about a week ago and have yet to get an awsner i had a friend buy sum cadence 12s and amp and i had sum crappy xplod 12s and a boss amp and still hit harder than him so i will never buy anything cadence either cadence=caca

Ive got money on user error.

[indytrucks]

The customer is always right? More like the customer is always an *******. Welcome to the interwebz. You buy **** online it may not be exactly what you wanted. Go to a brick and mortar store or call the company direct and you wont have these problems. With the OP's **** poor attitude I wouldn't be inclined to get him a prompt answer either.

[BlackG35inTN]

To all very dedicated car audio enthusiasts.
Blah Blah Blah Blah
The CVL8-500-4 has also been one of the most copied subwoofers out on the market.
Blah Blah Blah

Yours very truly,

Jake ****
VP Operations
Cadence Acoustics Ltd.

You have got to be fucking kidding me. So people are copying your copied version of the Digital Designs 1508? Not only do you have shitty service, y'all are lying douchebags. I can not begin to tell you how much false info was in the bullshat letter. I've never owed a single piece of your garbage, and after this, I never will.

[Mitch86]

Until there is proof that this "revision" is inferior to the others, the OP has no real argument. Is it possible that they figured out they could trim a little steel and still get the same performance from the drivers? Production tolerances could possibly play a role in slight variations also... I'm curious to see how this plays out. But seems to me the OP is blowing up without facts to back his claims. (Besides very small size differences that may or may not effect performance)

[indytrucks]

Until there is proof that this "revision" is inferior to the others, the OP has no real argument. Is it possible that they figured out they could trim a little steel and still get the same performance from the drivers? Production tolerances could possibly play a role in slight variations also... I'm curious to see how this plays out. But seems to me the OP is blowing up without facts to back his claims. (Besides very small size differences that may or may not effect performance)

Hey, there will be no logical arguments in this thread!