After the much problem transaction between DarrenE and I, which I had bought some JL w0's from him... he kept after UPS and got the insurance money. It was not his fault for the rubber surrounds being torn up, and I apologize for jumping on his *** immediatly. I thought it was after he told me I "had seen the pics and agreed to the subs". He got me all of my $$ back and let me keep the subs. Thank you.