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dumbguygeorge
05-19-2005, 04:44 PM
just sold my 960 mp to a friend at work for 380 and was looking to upgrade to something better price range is 400-600 or i might pay more thnx

joeboxer5876
05-19-2005, 05:10 PM
i went from a 9300 to the alpine 9835. $450 and im very pleased with it. i would never take that pioneer back. it was a nice HU though.

impalafan95
05-19-2005, 08:46 PM
Eclipse 8454 or 8053

bumpin_blazer
05-19-2005, 08:49 PM
On looks part almost anything is better than a 960mp IMO, feature wise you won't find more than maybe 2-3 decks that are better. Eclipse 8455, 8454, Alpine 9855 are the only one's I'd look at.

Speedyd718
05-20-2005, 02:15 AM
wemt from 960 to 8455, very very happy with the results

JAZN
05-20-2005, 02:22 AM
eclipse like everyone said.
and damm i have no clue how u sold a 960 for 380, im jealous.

audiolife
05-20-2005, 02:44 AM
p-9 or you can scrounge up a used c-90 (sony) and the others listed are pretty solid as well. depends on how far you plan on taking it. pioneer p combo would be sweet for the price.

dumbguygeorge
05-20-2005, 04:34 AM
lol just purchased the alpine 9855 off of onlinecarstereo, im getting rid of my whole setup 2 re 12' hc's old subs lol and im getting a new SUV instead of my tiny *** car. gonna build a big box 2 18' xxx's and i dont no wat amps to use i got a mtx 1501d running my hcs right now i was thinkin maybe another one and bridge them or maybe 3 of them or something any input?

dumbguygeorge
05-20-2005, 05:06 AM
what about the pioneer 940 it looks pretty cool i technically havnt ordered the alpine yet gotta wait till mom wakes up in mornin wit her credit card so maybe a quick reply on this headunit

JAZN
05-20-2005, 05:12 AM
that would not be an upgrade.

dumbguygeorge
05-20-2005, 05:17 AM
so the 9855 would be the best bet for me. wat about the amp thing u have any advice. my system consisted of
stinger 1000 battery
mtx 1501d bench tested at 1107 watts and 12.2 volts
2 re hcs 12
used to have the 960 but i using my friends xplod for now lol im so pissed cuz has no options and the speakers and static now *****
0 gauge wire

audiolife
05-20-2005, 06:15 AM
you are totally lost arent you?
http://www.ikesound.com/product-product_id/3275
http://www.ikesound.com/product-product_id/3338
http://www.infinitecaraudio.com/cgi-bin/icastore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=CDA9855

bumpin_blazer
05-20-2005, 01:04 PM
I'd say 9855 still isn't an upgrade on anything other than the 5 band para Eq. The 8455 from eclipse is the biggest upgrade aside from a p-9 combo or drz 9255.

Kali77
05-20-2005, 01:05 PM
x2 on the DRZ9255

Kali

adam71
05-21-2005, 10:26 AM
i went from a 9300 to the alpine 9835. $450 and im very pleased with it. i would never take that pioneer back. it was a nice HU though.

I really hate to hijack a thread but I was on Alpine's website and I see they're no longer making the 7990. That was a nice deck but I guess they wouldn't have sold too many of those with that very hefty price tag. Maybe they're going to make a head unit that falls under the 7990 and yet still be head and shoulders above the 9835. That way Alpine could compete with Premier's DEX-P9 and Clarion's DXZ-9255. Just a thought. ;)

adam71
05-21-2005, 10:49 AM
just sold my 960 mp to a friend at work for 380 and was looking to upgrade to something better price range is 400-600 or i might pay more thnx

First question, why did you get rid of the 960?? Were you disappointed in the performance? Are you just looking for something different? Or are you looking for something BETTER as in sound quality.

If you're looking for something different then the Alpine 9835 would be a nice choice. So would the Eclipse 8455 and 8445.

But if you're looking for something to be NOTICEABLY better then none of the aforementioned decks are going to provide you with that. I'm not saying those decks aren't any better than the 960 because they could be. But they're NOT going to be THAT MUCH better if you follow me.

To get NOTICEABLY better SQ out of a deck I would recommend something without an internal amp and great pre outs, maybe a used Clarion 9255 or a Premier P9 or if you can still find one an Eclipse 8053 (Eclipse's best head unit ever in my opinion).

Just my 2 cents. ;)

bumpin_blazer
05-21-2005, 11:22 AM
First question, why did you get rid of the 960?? Were you disappointed in the performance? Are you just looking for something different? Or are you looking for something BETTER as in sound quality.

If you're looking for something different then the Alpine 9835 would be a nice choice. So would the Eclipse 8455 and 8445.

But if you're looking for something to be NOTICEABLY better then none of the aforementioned decks are going to provide you with that. I'm not saying those decks aren't any better than the 960 because they could be. But they're NOT going to be THAT MUCH better if you follow me.

To get NOTICEABLY better SQ out of a deck I would recommend something without an internal amp and great pre outs, maybe a used Clarion 9255 or a Premier P9 or if you can still find one an Eclipse 8053 (Eclipse's best head unit ever in my opinion).

Just my 2 cents. ;)

Being that I owned a p1r, 940, 860 and a few other decks both with and without an internal amp, I don't see how they make a difference in Sq. Then again, I've never used an internal amp with any of those decks so it didn't add or decrease anything from the performance.

Noticeable difference in a 8455 vs. 860 yeah there is a pretty big difference. You've got 13band graphic vs. the 10 band parametric on the 8455 which is a BIG difference.

adam71
05-21-2005, 11:48 AM
I guess I wasn't that clear in what I said. But what I actually meant by decks with NO internal amps is that those high end decks are of the highest quality. I didn't mean that NOT having an internal amp was the DIRECT reason for them being higher sound quality but rather INDIRECTLY. Decks without int. amps are also better in every other way. Better RCA output stage, copper plated chassis for better isolation, digital output (in some of them) and the best of parts selection put into them. They do one thing (play cd's) and do that one thing VERY, VERY well. Just like high end home stereo. Everyone knows seperates are better than receivers. Same difference here. :)




Noticeable difference in a 8455 vs. 860 yeah there is a pretty big difference. You've got 13band graphic vs. the 10 band parametric on the 8455 which is a BIG difference.

I guess I'll agree to disagree with this statement. I mean what are you comparing here? The equalizers or the head units themselves. I was comparing the head units themselves. The 8455's EQ is obviously more flexible but let's say for the sake of argument a person has a car and after setting it up that after using a 13 band eq he has a good response and the 13 band graphic were ok in this sense, and there was NO need for a parametric. Taking this a step further lets say that you use an outboard (trunk mount) equalizer, not much use for the deck's eq in any event. My comparison was sound quality only NOT features. Even if the features help SQ. I mean my P9 has only bass and treble but you wouldn't say the 8455 is a better unit would you. Even if I wasn't using the DEQ-P9 processor. But hey, just my opinion. ;)