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twoohfour
05-17-2005, 08:15 PM
Just like the topic says, i've done some searching around the forums (yes, some noobs actually use :search: ) but haven't really found any definitive ideas besides possibly higher-end Boston speakers?

I'm looking for a pair of 6.5s to go with my Aura RPM Stage 2 tweeters that will REALLY like 300ish watts @ 4 ohms, that will pound midbass down to 70hz but can run mids enough up to a comfortable tweeter point. The Stage 2 tweeters are pretty beefy. Again, just looking for the 6.5s, NOT a full component set. I'm planning an active xover so i dont need passive crossovers anyway.

Price range doesn't really matter, obviously the cheaper the better but i'm really going for something good to avoid having to do a 3-way set up, so throw out anything.

I'm thinking my best bet would be to get a pair of 6.5s that originally were a part of a component set, like just the woofers from a BA Z6 or a Pro60 set, or something like that. Maybe there's a good midrange driver not a part of a comp set out there though???

Thanks to any replies.

Beat_Dominator
05-17-2005, 08:22 PM
Diamond Audio's higher end can handle a lot of power. "Power Handling NOM/MAX: 200/400 watts
" That's the D9 set. The Hex set goes to 300w.

twoohfour
05-17-2005, 08:24 PM
I'll check that out. Thanks for the reply... I know Diamond tends to get extremely pricey too, but if its right its right.

Also i forgot to mention, these will be running in my door, so they need to work well IB.

Beat_Dominator
05-17-2005, 08:27 PM
Yeah it's just that the pricy stuff tends to like the power. Morel Elates are also a good choice for up to 300w. CDT has a lot of sets that can go up there too.

twoohfour
05-17-2005, 08:38 PM
Have you heard any of those ?

Beat_Dominator
05-17-2005, 08:44 PM
Only Diamonds, the other's I have heard good things about. I heard a set of CDT's a while back, they sounded underpowered and flat to me.

And I have Boston's and they are great with power, My rally's are rated to 275w but only get 100 or so not, but I hooked em up to 150ish and they sounded 50x better.

twoohfour
05-17-2005, 09:11 PM
Which BA set would you suggest that i could feed 200-300 without clipping/distortion/damage on the woof?

And how are the XXX 6.5 mids, infinite baffle in the upper midbass range, as in 500-2k?

Beat_Dominator
05-17-2005, 09:13 PM
The RC620 can be a great deal cause it's last years model and can be found on eBay. Those are good to 275. The Pro's are rated to 250 and the Z6's can go way up there 400+.

twoohfour
05-17-2005, 09:15 PM
Yeah, i really like the idea of the Z6. Price is very high though, i don't think i could afford it :crying:

I'll look into the RC620 then...

Any one else have any suggestions?

squeak9798
05-18-2005, 10:25 AM
www.partexpress.com
www.madisound.com
www.speakercity.com
www.meniscusaudio.com

Check out the Seas Excels, Max Fidelity high Qts mids (there is a review of them in the product review section), Adire Extremis, Dayton Reference RS180S, Usher, Vifa, Peerless, Scanspeak, etc etc etc. There are literally hundreds of options there.

twoohfour
05-18-2005, 11:32 AM
Wow, very cool information, thanks for the links and tips i'll look into all of it =]

squeak9798
05-18-2005, 12:12 PM
Forgot one: www.zalytron.com

:)

twoohfour
05-18-2005, 05:04 PM
I found someone willing to sell me a set of the RC620 midrange with passive crossovers (no tweets) for $100 shipped.

Should i buy that or look further into the Midrange drivers you showed me Squeak?

Beat_Dominator
05-18-2005, 05:08 PM
Depends on what you're looking for out of them.

twoohfour
05-18-2005, 05:14 PM
Speakers that will play from 60hz to 2500 hz.

squeak9798
05-18-2005, 05:17 PM
Tough call.......


I'd give it a little bit and do some digging into those brands I listed.

twoohfour
05-18-2005, 05:29 PM
Yeah, i've been looking into them. I like peerless so far...

Squeak - you have experience with BA... will the RC620s be ok with 300 watts? If not how much would they REALLY do well with?

squeak9798
05-18-2005, 05:31 PM
I honestly don't know a whole bunch about that particular driver. I know more about the Pro and Z6 series than I do the Rally's.

Beat_Dominator
05-18-2005, 05:36 PM
Only I know rally's!! :laugh:

Beat_Dominator
05-18-2005, 05:47 PM
So I'll tell you what I know.

They can take a ton of power though I've only been able to give mine 150 or so.

They don't go too low, think 75hz-90hz as a x-over point.

They kick *** in the midrange, they make snare drums sound good and tight.

The Manual says 275max, they might take 300 but I dunno if I'd do that for long periods of time.

twoohfour
05-18-2005, 08:03 PM
I really like the way these look: http://www.adireaudio.com/Home/ExtremisMidwoofers.htm

However... it talks about them in an enclosure, can I run them IB in my door?

Also, it says their impedance rating is 8 ohms.... could i run them at 4 ohms from an amp?

Beat_Dominator
05-18-2005, 08:49 PM
Nope, an 8ohm voice coil is an 8ohm voice coil. You would need two per side and wire them to 4 that way...

twoohfour
05-18-2005, 08:53 PM
Nope, an 8ohm voice coil is an 8ohm voice coil. You would need two per side and wire them to 4 that way...


Two per side? What does that mean ?

paikiah
05-18-2005, 08:56 PM
You could also hook lef tand right to one channel and get it to a 4 ohm...

course, you'll also get mono sounds..way kewl~

twoohfour
05-18-2005, 08:57 PM
You could also hook lef tand right to one channel and get it to a 4 ohm...

course, you'll also get mono sounds..way kewl~


:rolleyes: :laugh:

twoohfour
05-18-2005, 09:06 PM
The more i look at these different drivers you mentioned squeak, the more i find that they mostly have a nominal impedance of 8 ohms...

How do you wire a pair of those into 4? or 2 for that matter? Or anything that can run on the average 2 channel amp?

twoohfour
05-18-2005, 09:29 PM
Alright, from educating myself via www.bcae1.com ... i found that if i wire 8 ohm speakers in a parallel configuration, the load is reduced to 4 ohms??? I think???

However, does a parallel configuration give you a mono signal to the speakers ?

Beat_Dominator
05-18-2005, 10:17 PM
FYI 8ohm speakers tend to be for home or Pro Audio use....

twoohfour
05-18-2005, 10:36 PM
Yeah, i know. Most of the speakers squeak reccommended are (8 ohms) however... :p:

paikiah
05-19-2005, 12:03 AM
4ohms, 8 ohms.. it's just 3dB diff. Hard to tell by ear.

squeak9798
05-19-2005, 11:44 AM
:eek: Look who finally decided to come back :thumbupw:


4ohms, 8 ohms.. it's just 3dB diff. Hard to tell by ear.


:word:

People worry WAY too much about the impedences of them. It honestly is hard to tell the difference by ear. In fact, many people have dropped 8ohm speakers in to replace their current 4ohm speakers, and noticed no difference in volume output at all.

As for the Extremis; yes, they can be ran IB. They too were designed for home audio.