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sticks435
05-17-2005, 01:01 AM
I'm going to be getting one of these, and was wondering what you guys thoughts are. I'll be ordering online, so the only reason I'm considering the 860 is because my sub amp has 5V input. I'm searching ebay for decent prices on a 9835, but if that doesn't pan out, it will prob be the 860 if you guys think it's worth the extra $.

PS. I wish I had noticed the $300 9833 crutchfield deal sooner :( That was a sweet *** deal.

zachzchw
05-17-2005, 01:05 AM
You know how you always think there may be something better out there, and toy with the idea of switching out your current audio components?
Well, I have a 860MP, and have never once thought of getting rid of it. It has all the features Ill ever use, and some that I wont, but its cool to know they are there.
Picked it up on ebay as a refurb for $255 shipped, too.

loserpunk
05-17-2005, 09:25 AM
for the money you'll be hard pressed to find anything much better than the 860, sure the 9833/35 ect, but none of them will flat out dominate the 860, it's such a complete unit imo, it's very user friendly and aesthetically it looks awesome

SBLAZER
05-17-2005, 11:43 AM
get the 860mp, its a awesome deck and the sounds is better than anything ive come across, so many feats and so much u can do 2 fine tune a system. i learn sumtin new everyday wit it. it neva stops

sticks435
05-17-2005, 11:52 AM
So do you guys think it's worth it to get the 860 over the 8600 since i'm buying online.

zachzchw
05-17-2005, 12:08 PM
So do you guys think it's worth it to get the 860 over the 8600 since i'm buying online.


Yes. Higher voltage preouts, and more features make it worth it. Get the 860 premier, youll be glad you did.

sticks435
05-17-2005, 12:23 PM
Well it doesn't have any extra features exept for the higher preouts and the 2 year warrenty.

Hybrid90accord
05-17-2005, 12:49 PM
yeah get the 860 , I love mine and you will love it too :)

ruckus
05-17-2005, 12:50 PM
are you running amps? If so get the 860 if not then get the 8600 the higher voltage is so your amps dont run as hot. On a side note I heard pioneer bases their voltage on 20,000 ohms not the 50 ohms Kenwood and Eclipse use to base their voltage. Atleast thats what some sound engineer I know told me after i said i bought a p770mp.

g30ffr3y
05-17-2005, 12:51 PM
Well it doesn't have any extra features exept for the higher preouts and the 2 year warrenty.


you are incorrect. it also has a pro "network" mode for systems with
proper comp setups who want to run them active...

the 860 is an awesome deck... got mine on ebay for 355$... much
more user friendly than the alpine i had right before it...

sticks435
05-17-2005, 01:55 PM
Well i'm running polk ex365's in the front, stock in the rear and a mtx mxa 6001 to my subs. I don't think qualify's as being a system that would use the "network" mode does it?

Also those preout's are 6.5V at 100 ohms. Check the owners manual on Pioneers site.

JAZN
05-17-2005, 02:03 PM
all these damm 860 wh0res in here!
theyre both nice units, i picked the 860 cuz it was cheaper but it's pretty much a cointoss.

sticks435
05-17-2005, 02:20 PM
Well it's only a $25 difference if i get it from etronics, and $13 if i get the 8600 from ikesound and the 860 from etronics. Right now I adjusted the gains on my amp with the volume set a little over half way, and still have to turn the gain up 3/4 of the way. With a 6.5V preout, i shouldn't have to turn them up much at all. :D

JAZN
05-17-2005, 02:26 PM
with mine, my gain is <1/4 up. its wayyy down there. cant imagine what eclipse 8v users are like :p:

sticks435
05-17-2005, 03:08 PM
What's the input voltage on your amp?

JAZN
05-17-2005, 03:22 PM
i do not remember. my apologies.

sticks435
05-17-2005, 03:43 PM
no problem. Just curious.

pwnt by pat
05-17-2005, 03:51 PM
The best thing about the 860 is the dolphins. If you own one, you know what I'm talking about.

sticks435
05-17-2005, 03:53 PM
HAHAHA, i've read about that. I plan on playing those bad boys for all my friends, till i can get some new screens. :P

Prowler573
05-17-2005, 05:19 PM
I am a-skeeeered of Ike Sound on eBay. Though I am admittedly an eBay junkie I've never bought anything from Ike Sound myself. People that I know that have, however, have had less than pleasant experiences

loserpunk
05-17-2005, 05:29 PM
The best thing about the 860 is the dolphins. If you own one, you know what I'm talking about.

i actually wasn't a fan of that one, i downloaded the island one...dang i love that one, and yes the 860 over the 8600 is a no brainer, pro mode is simply something you'll fall in love w/ once you use it, it's so easy to use and setup an awesome active setup in no time

g30ffr3y
05-17-2005, 05:35 PM
i like the mission to mars movie and the black and white cloud moving background... ive also got pics of my girlfriend on there...

awesome deck... cant say enough good things about the 860

lotas
05-17-2005, 05:43 PM
I have the 8600..You have to make sure your amp can take 6.5volts...thats quite a bit, and not every amp is designed for that. Of course it will be a cleaner signal, but like someone said, you have to figure out your amps input voltage range before you buy.

I love my 8600 though, its awesome. I use the AUX input to run my port. DVD player so I hear the DVD through my speakers, thats an awesome feature. You can make your own videos (but you have to make them from a single picture, I used a picture from Scarface). You can make your own backrounds. And its very nice to go through menus. You dont have to keep clicking the same button to run through menus, its all the multi-function knob and the display makes it feel like you're running through menus on a computer.

I'd go Pioneer 860/8600. Depending on your amps input voltage range.

sticks435
05-17-2005, 06:02 PM
It's 5V input for my amp. I've gotten a deal for a 9855 from an autherized dealer for around $390 or so, so i'm going to have to weigh my options.

pwnt by pat
05-17-2005, 06:19 PM
You won't have to worry about the amps taking the high voltage 'cause that's only with everything turned up and maxed out and still doesn't take into concideration voltage drop. Just the the 860 and be happy.

adam71
05-18-2005, 09:38 AM
Yeah I'd take the 860 over any Alpine. Just has a much classier look to it. Of course I am a little biased toward Pioneer. :D ;)

DOHCrazy
05-18-2005, 09:51 AM
I still am not understanding the difference between the 860 and the 8600...

Edit: Just the preouts?

adam71
05-18-2005, 10:09 AM
I still am not understanding the difference between the 860 and the 8600...

Edit: Just the preouts?

No, the Premier also has Network mode.

So the Premier has hi-volt pre outs, network mode, and a 2 year waranty as opposed to the Pioneers 1 year waranty.

Oh and I forgot, you also get a PREMIER logo on the deck instead of a basic PIONEER logo. :laugh: :laugh:

ruckus
05-18-2005, 10:19 AM
Oh and I forgot, you also get a PREMIER logo on the deck instead of a basic PIONEER logo. :laugh: :laugh:

PURDY :naughty:

sticks435
05-18-2005, 10:53 AM
But since no autherized dealers carry the 860 anymore, and I don't have compoent speakers, the only thing that applies to me is the 6.5V preouts.

joeboxer5876
05-19-2005, 04:19 PM
i went from pioneer to alpine. im not in to the color and graphics all that much. i never used the movies or animated displays, i always turn that off. if you like the graphics you will be happier with the pioneer and i really like my 9300 but i like my alpine more.