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HERETIC
05-05-2005, 07:52 PM
o.k im a total newb to this home audio stuff other than three ways im totally clueless!!! i want the best drivers money can buy that will "rule" for death metal. i listen to ver agressive music so i need drivers that can take a beating and sound good . i need help on brands,speaker,size,and any kind of box or system design will be nice. i plan on using adcom pre-amps and amps(200X2@8ohm)

JimJ
05-05-2005, 09:09 PM
Got a budget?

PV Audio
05-06-2005, 12:41 AM
i'm helping him design a setup, but for what he tells me, i think that a horn loaded enclosure would be best.

~Magick_Man~
05-06-2005, 01:16 AM
one of these
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=294-460
with this horn
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=294-415
and this lense
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=294-425
all of that crossed somewhere between 500 and 800 hz in a 8 cu ft vented box with (3) 4" x 4.387" ports should make your head implode.......
(those box specs are quoted from the jbl recommended box)

~Magick_Man~

PV Audio
05-06-2005, 01:19 AM
implode?

cjjackson85
05-06-2005, 01:21 AM
...yeah

~Magick_Man~
05-06-2005, 01:30 AM
it could happen....

cjjackson85
05-06-2005, 01:31 AM
...yeah, in space.

~Magick_Man~
05-06-2005, 01:33 AM
:( :( :(
ill go back to my corner.

HERETIC
05-06-2005, 04:05 PM
i've been kinda busy getten ready to go on european tour in mid may. i noticed people recommend alot of stuff off parts express,i dont like their technical support-they do have good prices though. yeah i think a horn loaded enclosure sounds pretty good. i just need find some good drivers

HERETIC
05-06-2005, 04:14 PM
one of these
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=294-460
with this horn
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=294-415
and this lense
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=294-425
all of that crossed somewhere between 500 and 800 hz in a 8 cu ft vented box with (3) 4" x 4.387" ports should make your head implode.......
(those box specs are quoted from the jbl recommended box)

~Magick_Man~


ok i think thats too much balls to the wall !!!!! what your recommending is pa material. i want to "rock out with my clam out" but i dont want to get locked up in the process :pullover: hell if i was gonna use pa gear i would run with phl stuff. i want the speakers to rule but im not looking to bring the walls down!!! any other suggestions?

HERETIC
05-06-2005, 04:16 PM
Got a budget?



no budget-well kinda just tell me what sounds best and we'll go from there

HERETIC
05-07-2005, 04:22 PM
help ****it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PV Audio
05-07-2005, 06:06 PM
ok heretic. u don't need fricking bose 901s. just tell me what kind of space requirements

HERETIC
05-07-2005, 07:01 PM
ok heretic. u don't need fricking bose 901s. just tell me what kind of space requirements

medium-large room- dont want speakers to stand over 8 foot. multiple drivers ok- whatever sounds best for metal

JimJ
05-07-2005, 07:03 PM
I'm thinking a TMM design with Adire Extremis's...ported, they should have a nice thump :)

HERETIC
05-07-2005, 07:37 PM
I'm thinking a TMM design with Adire Extremis's...ported, they should have a nice thump :)



what is a tmm design? those extremis are bad from what i hear but their not that efficent are they? im gonna power these speakers with an adcom 200x2@8ohm- think im gonna have to use a seperate powered sub?

PV Audio
05-07-2005, 11:12 PM
what is a tmm design? those extremis are bad from what i hear but their not that efficent are they? im gonna power these speakers with an adcom 200x2@8ohm- think im gonna have to use a seperate powered sub?
d'appolito style (dual woofs(tmm=tweet midbass midbass))

you will need a sub no matter what if u want fully sound. i dunno about the extremis, but jim seems to know more than me about speaker drivers, so i'd go with what he'd say. offtopic, my new sub box is coming along niceley. 7 cubes.

HERETIC
05-07-2005, 11:44 PM
it would rule running a 18" powered sub- two of those bastars!!!!

PV Audio
05-08-2005, 12:29 AM
it would rule running a 18" powered sub- two of those bastars!!!!
um that's a lil unnecessary. try a single 15" or a single 18". any thing more than that, either u love either energy bills (huge amps), home repairs (vibration damage) or are a bass head like myself :D

no but seriously, a good single 15" should and will get the job done just fine.

JimJ
05-08-2005, 01:48 AM
Anything more than a single 18" is unnecessary in an HT setup ;)

D'Appolito is a MTM (mid-tweet-mid) style...

I'll write more when I'm more sober.

PV Audio
05-08-2005, 01:53 AM
Anything more than a single 18" is unnecessary in an HT setup ;)

D'Appolito is a MTM (mid-tweet-mid) style...

I'll write more when I'm more sober.
my bad, i realized that as soon as i typed it

HERETIC
05-08-2005, 02:13 AM
i think i like the idea of using the extremis mids. can you run this set up with horns or do i need to stick with a twetter. so if i run dual 6.5's @ 8 ohm will that give me a 4 ohm load?


what 15" subs should i consider? i sold my velodine a couple of years ago- it was a 12" with 350 watts-that sub rattled the hell out of the walls

supa_c
05-08-2005, 04:35 AM
Why dont you use some ID 8's :P:

HERETIC
05-08-2005, 02:25 PM
Why dont you use some ID 8's :P:


screw that!!!! hell if i wanted to use the id8's i mind as well use my idq8's. i dont want to be reminded of car audio when i listen to my home audio system. i want some ........ just shut the fvck up!!!!!!

PV Audio
05-08-2005, 03:11 PM
jeez

JimJ
05-08-2005, 03:20 PM
i dont want to be reminded of car audio when i listen to my home audio system.

:laugh:

HERETIC
05-08-2005, 03:28 PM
:laugh:



hell, i've had nothing but bad luck with car audio i dont want the same results with home audio!!!!

JimJ
05-08-2005, 03:41 PM
1. That's not necessarily the equipment's fault ;)
2. Some products do very well in both - for example, I'm running a Shiva (and soon) an RL-p at home...

HERETIC
05-08-2005, 03:50 PM
1. That's not necessarily the equipment's fault ;)
2. Some products do very well in both - for example, I'm running a Shiva (and soon) an RL-p at home...


i've had nothing but good gear in my cars and was never satisfied- not saying you cant use car audio in the home, i just want to go with whats best- no " afro engineering" or hack jobs. i'll keep my car gear for the car i have the money to buy real home audio equipment. im not trying to bash anybody doing this i just prefer to by home audio drivers :)

PV Audio
05-08-2005, 04:37 PM
i think that you'd be surprised at how loud a set of 6.5" can get. u really need to tell us a budget and space constraints. not above 8 feet tall is ridiculous as you can't even get anything in the room that tall.

JimJ
05-08-2005, 04:42 PM
:laugh:

For subs, the difference is moot for 90% of the drivers out there.

For midrange/midbasses, you're right. Not all midbass/midrange drivers optimized for car audio will work in the home environment.

JimJ
05-08-2005, 04:45 PM
not above 8 feet tall is ridiculous as you can't even get anything in the room that tall.

Not everyone has 8 foot ceilings, BTW ;)

PV Audio
05-08-2005, 05:17 PM
Not everyone has 8 foot ceilings, BTW ;)
unless ur building them in the walls or constructing them in the room with a ladder, that's useless. i've been impressed thouroughly with my bookshelves.

JimJ
05-08-2005, 05:28 PM
There are some TQWT pipes out there over eight feet...with a single driver :D

PV Audio
05-08-2005, 05:36 PM
i doubt he has the knowledge to do that, i certainly don't. many TL setups are much longer, but they're twisted up so as to save space. it looks like he is just looking for all out SLAMMING

HERETIC
05-08-2005, 05:54 PM
well i dont know what the hell im doing- budget isnt an issue- and the speakers will going in a large finished basement- the ceilings are 11 1/2 foot tall. i like the idea of tall speakers but what ever will sound best for what i listen to is fine. my old polks i wasnt satisfied with midbass responce so im looking for some drivers that will crank but sound clean too. the old plan was phl midbass drivers,phl 18" woofer and focal tweeters- the person that designed that thought i was just trying use that to get " locked up". i want to have the ability to crank the fvck out but sound clean at high and low volumes. whatever drivers y'all think will totally rule for metal and industrial throw it at me- i would greatly appreciate it!!!

thylantyr
05-11-2005, 02:37 PM
budget isnt an issue

I have some ideas for high SQ with high SPL, great for metal type of music.
Send me an email;

thylantyr at hotmail dot com

I don't visit often this forum so I will miss your reply.

My plans are evil so prepare yourself for major punishment ..
///////////// :swordfigh /////////////

squeak9798
05-11-2005, 06:25 PM
The new Adire LCR's look pretty spectacular: http://adireaudio.com/Home/KITLCR.htm

Over on the Adire forum @ SIN Dan was raving about them.....and, if you know Dan, he doesn't rave about his own products very often.

http://forum.soundillusions.net/showthread.php?t=49646

supa_c
05-13-2005, 10:44 PM
Lemans is black !

JAZN
05-13-2005, 11:12 PM
lol at least tell us when u were gonna unload the surprise.

PV Audio
05-13-2005, 11:47 PM
Lemans is black !
:2thumbs: :2thumbs: