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Magmanta
04-01-2005, 05:43 PM
Yea i decided to take pics of my box while i was building it so i could see how the rest of you guys like it. Its going to hold a 15" RE XXX. I was going to just take the easy route and build a wooden box, but to take advantage of the space in my trunk, and to be able to get the box big enough, i decided to go with fiberglassing. At first i fiberglassed the entire bottom of the trunk and along the back, but afterwards i decided to just cut out a piece of wood to put along the bottom and also along the back, it saved me a lot of time and a lot of fiberglass. Its also going to look a lot nicer fiberglassed than just a wooden box. I think it will be worth the extra work and money.

I had to tape off almost my entire trunk cuz this box is gonna be pretty big.
http://img42.exs.cx/img42/4721/trunktaped3ki.th.jpg (http://img42.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img42&image=trunktaped3ki.jpg)

I taped foil on top of the tape to make sure the resin didnt seep through the first layer of tape and get stuck to the bottom of my car =D it also peeled off the dried fiberglass a lot easier than the tape did, so it saved me a lot of time.
http://img160.exs.cx/img160/9020/trunkfoiled7tz.th.jpg (http://img160.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img160&image=trunkfoiled7tz.jpg)

I didnt take pictures of the fiberglass in the trunk or after i took it out and reinforced it, but thats no big deal anyways. This picture shows the box with the port glued in as well as the sub ring. This is also after i finished trimming the extra iberglass off around the edges.
http://img169.exs.cx/img169/4055/fiberglasswithwood6uv.th.jpg (http://img169.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img169&image=fiberglasswithwood6uv.jpg)

im going out today to buy the cloth so i can finish up the box, ill post more pics when i get them. Let me know how it looks so far!

Acidburn
04-01-2005, 05:54 PM
wow, that looks really good so far man, cant wait to see it done

bcarpenterfhl
04-01-2005, 05:56 PM
thats really good work. did you just guestimate the tuning?

Magmanta
04-01-2005, 09:21 PM
well i kinda measured the average width, and the height is pretty much the same all around, so i got some dimensions like that. Plus the ring is going to make the box taller and give it more air space. so i just got that volume, and tuned accordingly. if the air space is off it wont affect the tuning too much, im hoping the box comes out bigger than expected so it will be tuned a little lower.

And when its all done im most likely going to paint it a glossy white to match my car.

i just got back from the fabric store, so ill get to work stretching the cloth over the box. Ill get pics when i can.

THUNDERBIRD
04-01-2005, 09:35 PM
**** good job

bcarpenterfhl
04-01-2005, 09:42 PM
when you start glassing on the fabric, i'd suggest you soak the fabric in resin first, let it dry, then fiberglass on that. sometimes when you glass right on the fabric, and push in with your prush, air gets between the glass and fabric. maybe you already knew this, but just thought i'd offer some advice.

Magmanta
04-01-2005, 11:52 PM
i didnt know that =] thanx for the advice. i can see how that would save a lot of pains in the *** =P.

here is the box with the cloth all stretched over it. its finally starting to take shape =D
http://img20.exs.cx/img20/9586/withcloth4mn.th.jpg (http://img20.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img20&image=withcloth4mn.jpg)

iamamp3pimp
04-02-2005, 12:55 AM
give this dude some props

how many layers did you lay down for the bottom side?

Rawr-DQ
04-02-2005, 12:57 AM
wow, how much does that cost on average? I might try that.

req
04-02-2005, 01:09 AM
i guess you guys missed my project where i did this :)

lookin good man. very nice tape job, that kind of stuff makes it go so much faster. the aluminum does help, and so does the MDF floor and back wall.very clean... but where are the amps going to go ;)

should have made two amp mounts on the sides :D

Buckshot
04-02-2005, 01:43 AM
i guess you guys missed my project where i did this :)

lookin good man. very nice tape job, that kind of stuff makes it go so much faster. the aluminum does help, and so does the MDF floor and back wall.very clean... but where are the amps going to go ;)

should have made two amp mounts on the sides :D


Eh, its still very possible! Good suggestion mang.

takeabao
04-02-2005, 03:02 AM
One word: tight.

I'd love to see the finished product.

JimJ
04-02-2005, 03:35 AM
Very impressive...

Magmanta
04-02-2005, 03:38 AM
iamamp3pimp:
how many layers did you lay down for the bottom side?

well i did about 2 layers on the bottom and then i glued the wood on to that to save time.


Rawr-DQ:
wow, how much does that cost on average? I might try that.

lets see, a sheet of mdf is $20, a 2 gallon can of resin is around $20 also, plus the fiberglass matt, and paintbrushes, gloves, cloth, sp i would say $60-$80 depending on how big the box is and everything. i mean this could be completely different for you.


req:
but where are the amps going to go

thats a good question :D i was planning of crafting some sort of amp rack that will go in between the back of my trunk and the box. ill figure out somewhere to put it in the meantime.

I should be starting to apply the resin tomorrow, i have nothing else to do and i got spring break next week, so i should have this done in no time.

bcarpenterfhl
04-02-2005, 02:45 PM
post some pics! if you still can, use cloth instead of matte. you will have to do a couple more layers, but its worth it.

Magmanta
04-02-2005, 03:28 PM
too late, i already have a ton of matte at my house. it doesnt really bug me though, as long as it works.

bcarpenterfhl
04-02-2005, 03:30 PM
yea i'm still sure it will turn out great.

saywhat?
04-02-2005, 03:35 PM
a 2 gallon can of resin is around $20 also

WHERE?????

bcarpenterfhl
04-02-2005, 03:37 PM
yea he must of meant one gallon. i've been to home depot, kragen, west marine, and tap and i never saw a 2 gallon can.

Magmanta
04-02-2005, 06:08 PM
yea one gallon, my bad... its under the painting section in my home depot, so it may be there for you too.

i just got done covering the fleece with the first layer of resin, so when it dries ill get some pics of it.

iamamp3pimp
04-02-2005, 06:14 PM
take wet pics -

saywhat?
04-02-2005, 06:15 PM
i AGREE!!!! wetter is better!

Magmanta
04-02-2005, 09:37 PM
well heres some pics of the box after i put down the first layer of fiberglass and then cut away the extra fleece.
http://img208.exs.cx/img208/6380/1stlayerfiberglass9qs.th.jpg (http://img208.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img208&image=1stlayerfiberglass9qs.jpg)

http://img224.exs.cx/img224/594/1stlayerfiberglass21oi.th.jpg (http://img224.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img224&image=1stlayerfiberglass21oi.jpg)

and here is the car its going in =D
http://img224.exs.cx/img224/5841/mycar18so.th.jpg (http://img224.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img224&image=mycar18so.jpg)

http://img224.exs.cx/img224/8349/mycar26vj.th.jpg (http://img224.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img224&image=mycar26vj.jpg)

i probly wont getting anything else done tonight, i have a life =D but tomorrow ill start laying layers of fiberglass down.

EscaladeESV
04-02-2005, 09:42 PM
nice nice
.....great job so far

saywhat?
04-02-2005, 09:46 PM
das cuuute

bcarpenterfhl
04-03-2005, 01:07 AM
get call on resining first.

bigdaddygb
04-03-2005, 08:00 PM
hey just a suggestion...don't forget to make a thick slurry of resin and do the inside of fleece. if you notice in pics it's still fuzzy in there... by putting resin in there it will help strengthen the box even more.

swaptrex
04-03-2005, 08:04 PM
looks great!

ss3079
04-03-2005, 09:01 PM
Any picture updates?

Should look really nice when it's done - I'm looking forward to seeing the end result.

Magmanta
04-03-2005, 09:50 PM
well i never really got around to working on it today =[...... sorry for the disapointment, ive been doing yard work all day.... involuntarily though...

i figured as long as the fiberglass is attatched well around the edges of the box, its not going to matter much that the inside of the box is still fuzzy.... so i dunno if im going to hassel myself tryin to get in there and fiberglass. i might get some resin and apply it around the edges inside, but that would probably be it.

about half way through resining the fleece last yesterday, i realized that i wasnt putting enough around the parts where it was attatching to the wood. around the edges it stretched the cloth enough that it attatchd itself good, but around parts of the ring, the fleece wasnt fully soaked through with resin, so ill have to glue that part down a little better, but nothing big. same thing with around the edges of the box, but all i need to do is get some resin under the little flap that hangs off and glue it down better. plus once im laying the fiberglass down on top of that it will get glued on there good.

GCAdidas13
04-04-2005, 11:26 AM
[QUOTE=Magmanta]well i never really got around to working on it today =[...... sorry for the disapointment, ive been doing yard work all day.... involuntarily though...

<snip>[QUOTE]
seriously, though.. i would suggest doing a heluva lot of resin on the inside. i mean, with my kicks, i resined the outside of my kick, then put down one layer of 6oz fiberglass weave... and it was still pretty flexy... no way i could stand on it. then i cut out the middle, mixed up 8oz of resin/hardener and poured it in and spread it around, and i am now very comfortable standing on it.

it really would be easy through a 14" hole, compared to my 5.5"...

Really. Mix up about 16oz and go to town inside. try to get a whole layer on the inside of the fleece. it could probably save you one or two layers of mat on the outside.

GOOD LUCK!!

Brian

Magmanta
04-04-2005, 09:38 PM
well mabe it was flexy cuz you only used one layer of fiberglass...... i use around 8 layers so its not going to flex at all. and because of the fact that its curved, its not going to be able to bend easliy.

GCAdidas13
04-04-2005, 11:37 PM
well mabe it was flexy cuz you only used one layer of fiberglass...... i use around 8 layers so its not going to flex at all. and because of the fact that its curved, its not going to be able to bend easliy.
alright, you win :crazy:

i'm sure it will be GREAT in the end :)

bcarpenterfhl
04-04-2005, 11:42 PM
Pics!

Magmanta
04-15-2005, 08:08 PM
well i finally got around to finishing my box! Finally!!! And i must say its money very well spent. So far i have gotten two of my neigbors to complain about it =D one lives down the street and around the corner and she said she could feel it in her house...... YES!!!!! but here are some pics, i havent covered it yet, i was too anxious to hear it so i threw it all in b4 i covered it.

god i love my car.....
http://img77.echo.cx/img77/2860/finished14wt.th.jpg (http://img77.echo.cx/my.php?image=finished14wt.jpg)

close up of the XXX
http://img77.echo.cx/img77/310/finished21vy.th.jpg (http://img77.echo.cx/my.php?image=finished21vy.jpg)

you can see my tantrum propped up against the box.... im gonna need to make a rack for it one of these days =P
http://img227.echo.cx/img227/5980/finished35rl.th.jpg (http://img227.echo.cx/my.php?image=finished35rl.jpg)

tell me what you guys think!

Acidburn
04-15-2005, 08:15 PM
that looks freakin sick

Magmanta
04-15-2005, 08:17 PM
thanx =D
i wanna go show it off but i cant drive my car yet =P it isnt insured.......

oh yea, and i need to dynamat the crap out of my trunk =P i got behind some of the plastic peices and was able to tighten some screws for the tailights, which helped out a lot. But i still need to fix some rattling in the back. =]

takeabao
04-15-2005, 09:16 PM
That box is absolutely gorgeous.

You should consider tinting your windows...I know if I saw that I'd be tempted to jack it :)

ss3079
04-15-2005, 10:14 PM
Looks awesome :)

And x2 on the window tint.

JAZN
04-15-2005, 10:44 PM
wow. thats freakin huge and amazing. great job on the super tight flush mount. how heavy is that box? sorry if u mentioned this already, what are u covering it in?

datguyclark
04-15-2005, 11:12 PM
incredible, makes me wanna fiberglass more and more stuff asap!!

bcarpenterfhl
04-15-2005, 11:22 PM
dude, you might not even have to bondo that's so smoothe, assuming you plan on finishing it.

Magmanta
04-16-2005, 12:02 AM
bcarpenterfhl:
dude, you might not even have to bondo that's so smoothe, assuming you plan on finishing it.

yea i plan on finishing it =D i was just gonna cover it in fleece, so ill mabe sand down the rough edges a little bit.


takeabao:
You should consider tinting your windows...I know if I saw that I'd be tempted to jack it
yea i was planning on getting it tinted as dark as possible =D there used to be a cover that went over the trunk, but i had to take that out to make room.


JAZN:
wow. thats freakin huge and amazing. great job on the super tight flush mount. how heavy is that box? sorry if u mentioned this already, what are u covering it in?
well i didnt exactly weigh the box, but it was pretty heavy. i mean the sub alone is around 50 lbs right? the fiberglass doesnt weigh too much, all the weight is from the wood i had to use in there. And i was going to cover it in fleece. im still debating whether or not to put a thin layer of padding between the fiberglass and the fleece, then i wont have to sand and it will be nice and squishy =D it will help so you dont feel all of the little bumps and stuff everywhere.

thanx for all the kudos guys =D one of my friends came over the other day and was askin me how much it would be to build him a fiberglass box for 2 12's. do any of you know how much people charge to build fiberglass boxes?

req
04-16-2005, 12:18 AM
$100~200 + resin cost. resin is MAD expensive.


thats what id charge prolly.


but yea. that box looks super ****. id prolly get some thick white stretchy fabric, cover it (maybe an actual fleece blanket) spray 3m SUPER77 on it, let it tack up, do the same for the fiberglass... then when they are nice and sticky, stretch it over.

do the same with your carpet, zero bumps :)

very awesome work.

mad props! :thumbpsup:

lotas
04-16-2005, 02:06 AM
that looks really good. for future reference try to white out your license plate when you post pics like that, you never know what kind of scary thieves are lurking around :-/

just trying to help you out! again, box looks awesome.

smullen
04-16-2005, 11:10 AM
Looks Sweet... Really fits the hatch nice... My Fibercrap never turns out that nice.... I never actually finish anything though...

Still lookin to see what your gonna do with the amps??? I'm gusing ditch the back seat and do some floating amprack/Display or somethin cool...

CntInjaDisNinja
04-16-2005, 02:07 PM
This makes me wanna go out and lay some glass

Magmanta
04-16-2005, 04:01 PM
yea with the license plate thing, i noticed after i had already posted it, but oh well.


req:
$100~200 + resin cost. resin is MAD expensive.

thats what id charge prolly.

but yea. that box looks super ****. id prolly get some thick white stretchy fabric, cover it (maybe an actual fleece blanket) spray 3m SUPER77 on it, let it tack up, do the same for the fiberglass... then when they are nice and sticky, stretch it over.

do the same with your carpet, zero bumps
sounds good, i was thinking around that price, depending on how big the trunk is and everything. And thats what i was thinking of doin to cover it. Im probly just going to put 2 layers of fleece down, because that will stretch to the right shape, i dont know of any other material that stretches like that.


smullen:
Still lookin to see what your gonna do with the amps??? I'm gusing ditch the back seat and do some floating amprack/Display or somethin cool...
yea im not sure where im gonna put my amp either =P i want to do some kind of floating amprack, but i need to keep my backseats, so i was thinking of having it angled to the side of the sub kinda (hard to explain).
but that might not be for a while cuz im broke as **** =P

req
04-16-2005, 04:13 PM
yea im not sure where im gonna put my amp either =P i want to do some kind of floating amprack, but i need to keep my backseats, so i was thinking of having it angled to the side of the sub kinda (hard to explain).
but that might not be for a while cuz im broke as **** =P

dude. put a floating amprack over the port right there in the back area... your amp is there already - just raise it up, and make a few feet that attach to the front of the box and down on the sides of the port, take it off - sand it up and carpet it, then attach it to the floor somehow.

or somthing like that :)

would look cool floating over the port.

just raise it up about 6-8 inches and angle it like the woofer is - maybe overlap the bottom edge of the woofer with it - depending on how much room there is between it and the glass :laugh:
http://img227.echo.cx/img227/5980/finished35rl.th.jpg

:)

Magmanta
04-16-2005, 04:36 PM
ill see if i can do something like that, sounds like it would look good. But i cant angle it too much because there isnt that much room between the box and the back of the trunk, and i cant raise it too much because the hatch would hit it. But i should be able to figure something out like that.

Insomniac119
04-16-2005, 10:14 PM
That looks ****ing awsome. too bad it's in a foren car. :spank:

and tint that back windo before it gets stolen.

azbass
04-16-2005, 11:13 PM
Magmanta . that looks great, man. i have make a lot of custom fiberglas boxs, pods, kicks, for work. all day. :)

Magmanta
04-16-2005, 11:44 PM
Insomniac119:
That looks ****ing awsome. too bad it's in a foren car.
Actually its a Talon so its made in the good ol' USA =D and im going to get the windows tinted soon. its just chillen in my driveway for now, and i dont really live in a bad neighborhood so i think ill be fine. Plus my car has an alarm on it, thank god.

azbass
04-16-2005, 11:47 PM
alarm or not, they will take it.

Magmanta
04-16-2005, 11:49 PM
either way its tinted enough to not be able to see in the trunk in the middle of the night.