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BCONNELLY
03-12-2005, 07:53 PM
Need a new HU, what's a good choice with the best SQ ?
I'll strickly be using Pre-outs, so I don't care about the amp.
Budget up to $500

punkrocka436
03-12-2005, 07:55 PM
Eclipse CD8053....no internal amp, 8 volt/55 ohm pre outs, EQ, Xover, all that good stuff, and you can get them authorized for 500 w/ the theft warranty

iceteebone
03-12-2005, 07:55 PM
eclipse 8454

BCONNELLY
03-12-2005, 08:09 PM
What's the "Balanced Line Adapter", do I need this with the 8053

DARKHART
03-12-2005, 08:25 PM
Need a new HU, what's a good choice with the best SQ ?
I'll strickly be using Pre-outs, so I don't care about the amp.
Budget up to $500
If you can find one on e-bay or somewhere....the Sony CDX-C90 is IMO the best sq deck ever built and it sells for around $500 used. None of the new decks can touch it. The Clarion 9255 is a very close second :D :D :D

Mark_ab
03-12-2005, 08:38 PM
There are a dumpload of solid SQ performers out there. Price is dictated by the amuont of features or lackthereof. As mentioned, C90, C910, 8454, 8053, drz9255, 8250ti, P9 etc etc

JLCivic
03-12-2005, 08:54 PM
What's the "Balanced Line Adapter", do I need this with the 8053

It allows the deck to send a balanced signal to the amps(and no, it is not needed in order to use the 8053...great deck, btw).

squeak9798
03-12-2005, 08:58 PM
Also look for a Rockford Fosgate RFX-8250. Don't be fooled....this unit is actually a rebadged Denon (DCT-1000R IIRC). Can be had for ~$400 NIB, if you can find one. Though it has no internal processing.....just simple balance, fade, treble and bass controls.

Black_Jesus
03-12-2005, 09:47 PM
stock, just dont let it convert it to analog... get a bajillion dollar external processor to do that :) lol

unrealii
03-13-2005, 01:07 AM
I am very happy with my cd8454, especially since it comes with enough features that I can get away without any external processor (wanted to keep the installation simple). Since the 05 eclipse models just came out, a 8454 may be in your budget. The 8053 is a great deck too, shouldn't be too hard to find for cheap since good guys clearanced those out for $300 last summer.

Mark_ab
03-13-2005, 02:17 AM
Also look for a Rockford Fosgate RFX-8250. Don't be fooled....this unit is actually a rebadged Denon (DCT-1000R IIRC). Can be had for ~$400 NIB, if you can find one. Though it has no internal processing.....just simple balance, fade, treble and bass controls.

Dude.


...drz9255, 8250ti, P9...

Duh.

squeak9798
03-13-2005, 09:52 AM
Dude.



Duh.


Doh!! :crap:

Sorry :blush:


You may be able to find a McIntosh MX-406 for around $500.....if you are lucky.

BCONNELLY
03-13-2005, 10:56 AM
Which would you all recommend between the 8053 & 8454

seth350
03-13-2005, 01:16 PM
Sony's CDX-F7705X has very good SQ for a Sony.

I paid $194 for it and Im totally content with it. It has 3 outputs and 1 input, XM ready, plays MP3's, has visualizations, and etc.

A really nice h/u if your looking for SQ and looks. And it wont break your budget.

Heres some info on it....
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=13726

iceteebone
03-13-2005, 02:29 PM
Which would you all recommend between the 8053 & 8454


which ever one is cheaper. even the 8443 is a great sq deck.

unrealii
03-13-2005, 03:13 PM
Which would you all recommend between the 8053 & 8454
8454 - if you need mp3 capability, eiserv or prefer to have the "latest and greatest" (just saying this because it is the newest of these 3...it also has cool white lights on the 2 dials instead of blue :p: )
8053 - if you plan on using the bla (remember you will need to run 12 rca's between the hu and the bla in addition to the 6 from the bla to your amp(s))
8443 - if you need none of the above

I dont know if you have considered the new eclipses...audiowise, I dont think they will be much different than these models, but they look a bit different.

bri487
03-13-2005, 03:19 PM
maybe look into the nakamichi cd45z

Thecontender
03-13-2005, 03:28 PM
eclipse! :laugh:

XDrkmanX
03-13-2005, 07:41 PM
Where does the premier deh-p860mp rank at?

3.5Max6spd
03-13-2005, 07:46 PM
i'll be buying another 8v Eclipse....thats for sure

BCONNELLY
03-13-2005, 07:58 PM
8454 - if you need mp3 capability, eiserv or prefer to have the "latest and greatest" (just saying this because it is the newest of these 3...it also has cool white lights on the 2 dials instead of blue )
8053 - if you plan on using the bla (remember you will need to run 12 rca's between the hu and the bla in addition to the 6 from the bla to your amp(s))
8443 - if you need none of the above

Thankx for all the info unrealii, I think I'll go with the 8454, not real intrested in 18 RCA's!!!lol

bri487
03-14-2005, 12:26 AM
i'll be buying another 8v Eclipse....thats for sure
i am a huge fan of eclipse. had over a dozen of the h/u's but that new look kinda turns me off.

Randy Savage
03-14-2005, 12:28 AM
Find something with fiber optic :D

JAZN
03-14-2005, 12:32 AM
Where does the premier deh-p860mp rank at?
lets just say its no p9. i'd call it an audio enthusiast's deck, whereas the other aforementioned decks are audiophile grade.

3.5Max6spd
03-14-2005, 08:17 AM
i am a huge fan of eclipse. had over a dozen of the h/u's but that new look kinda turns me off.

yeah.......I never bought for looks, plus I've witnessed a 8445 and 8455 installs and in person the deck is not what everyone makes it out to be- its works for me..

BCONNELLY
03-14-2005, 08:31 AM
As long as it has the best SQ, I'll get passed the looks
My 5303R wasn't very **** either.

SSS 18734
03-14-2005, 06:23 PM
Pioneer DEH-P3600. This head unit is very nice, I have one, if you look around you can get it for less than $150 shipped http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39752&item=5758462440&rd=1).

Don't bother getting anything more expensive, since its just loaded with gadgets and monitors all just for show and isn't going to sound better at all. This is a solid head unit that looks good and performs even better. Unless you have unlimited funds, save yourself $350 and buy some nice speakers, amps, or subs :yumyum: .

Kali77
03-14-2005, 06:25 PM
Pioneer DEH-P3600. This head unit is very nice, I have one, if you look around you can get it for $150 shipped (check ebay). Don't bother getting anything more expensive, since its just loaded with gadgets and monitors all just for show and isn't going to sound better at all. Unless you have unlimited funds, save yourself $350 and buy some nice speakers, amps, or subs.

Uhhhh :uhoh:

Kali

bri487
03-14-2005, 09:20 PM
yeah.......I never bought for looks, plus I've witnessed a 8445 and 8455 installs and in person the deck is not what everyone makes it out to be- its works for me..

i saw one installed in a car with an all black dash and it didnt look too bad. but the ones with the red illumination just look cheap.

SSS 18734
03-14-2005, 09:59 PM
Uhhhh :uhoh:

Kali

uhhh what buddy

squeak9798
03-14-2005, 10:03 PM
uhhh what buddy


I think he was saying the 3600 isn't a super SQ headunit.....and frankly, I don't disagree. Not quite on the same level as the other HU's listed.

Trancer
03-14-2005, 10:30 PM
My pioneer premier DEH-P960MP is a nice slick deck. It has a 13 band equalizer, Auto EQ, Auto Time Alignment (comes with a microphone so you can use it to adjust), and 6.5 volt preouts. So many options with this deck to fine tune your sound.

GRANDV
03-14-2005, 11:51 PM
Clarion- DXZ 925 or 9225.

DFW40
03-15-2005, 04:24 PM
What is a "SQ" headunit?

DFW40
03-15-2005, 04:59 PM
Seriously, what the H_ll is a SQ headunit

BCONNELLY
03-15-2005, 05:13 PM
Sorry, not talking about a brand name, just looking for good Sound Quality
SQ = Sound Quality

3.5Max6spd
03-15-2005, 06:00 PM
Seriously, what the H_ll is a SQ headunit

IMO....delivers the goods....without sonic compromise

The same thing that makes a ZAPCO an SQ amp- a unit that is overbuilt, and excells above the competition in every measurable attribute. One that has gone extra lenghts to deliver the most precise signal tranfer and processing -attention to detail, and non-comformance to the 'its not audible' short cuts- Understanding of cummulative error...

I typically look for multiple bit DAC's, or multiple DACs - along with high voltage/low impedance outputs-

BCONNELLY
03-15-2005, 07:14 PM
Deffinently, all about the SQ, who really cares about the features, there cool, but not at the sacrifice of SQ!!!

XDrkmanX
03-15-2005, 09:33 PM
I would love to get a 8053 but don't know if it's worth loosing the XM. The deh-p860mp sounds like it would be perfect for me, but I wanna see what they come out with for 2005.

JLCivic
03-16-2005, 06:09 AM
I would love to get a 8053 but don't know if it's worth loosing the XM. The deh-p860mp sounds like it would be perfect for me, but I wanna see what they come out with for 2005.

If you bought an XM plug n play unit, you could just hook that up through the aux in of the 8053.

xchaosx
03-16-2005, 09:53 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5760692448&fromMakeTrack=true

FR 8250 right here

JAZN
03-16-2005, 12:04 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5760692448&fromMakeTrack=true

FR 8250 right here
geebus $550 buy it now price. if i had known how popular these decks were gonna get, i woulda snatched em all up on cardomain when they were selling for $300.

squeak9798
03-16-2005, 12:29 PM
geebus $550 buy it now price. if i had known how popular these decks were gonna get, i woulda snatched em all up on cardomain when they were selling for $300.


Only a sucker would pay that much for it. Highest I'd pay for one is $400, as that seems to be the going rate for them. $550 is way too much, IMHO. Probably worth every bit of that $550, but no point in spending that much on it when you can find them for cheaper.

xchaosx
03-16-2005, 12:44 PM
that's what i thought too but ya never know

livewire
04-24-2005, 08:28 PM
I agree with the last post.

I've personally had the 8444 and 8053 along with every other Eclipse deck produced in the last 10 yrs.
I now have the 8445 and it is IMO the best deck Eclipse has put out to date. It ain't cheap, but they never were. I mean come on, 8 volt out, HD radio ready, SAT radio ready, mem stick function, great display, enough onboard processing to make your pants bulge........and replacement if stolen.

freshbondoscent
04-24-2005, 08:55 PM
i would go sony cdx-90, z-50, modded alpine 7909's the clarion peice that worked with the computerized pro audio processor (its not new only seen 1 in my life and it is bigger than xant amps in size) the clarion with the burr browns single dial (lol looks like the 'tosh) were all great decks the f 1 is pretty nice and then again so is the eclipse 8544? i dont know if i would put it right up there as the others had better processing but as a stand alone unit it kicks ***. the p9 from pioneer is a drastic improvement over what they had offered over here since they stopped with the odr units but from what im told the odr in japan is insane now. im just waiting for sony to return to high end over here i know they are getting p/o'ed about their rep as in recent years thing is people dont understand about them is they probably spent more and did more in r and d than any two of the other companies combined and if they wanted to put out another killer line they could but they have to decide if the investment is worth it.

JAZN
04-24-2005, 09:01 PM
they probably spent more and did more in r and d than any two of the other companies combined and if they wanted to put out another killer line they could but they have to decide if the investment is worth it.
damm never knew that. what a shame.

freshbondoscent
04-24-2005, 09:06 PM
the z-50 is equal to the f1 status now and the z 50 is like 6 years old. the reason why es died here was because it was lossing alot of money so sony pulled the plug totally. i blame that on its marketing as most of the people who bought the stuff like the c-90 are nerdy like i am lol

Beat_Dominator
04-24-2005, 09:07 PM
Those old Sony ES lines were nice, that Comp set with the ceramic (cone or coil former I forget) were pretty nice pieces.

freshbondoscent
04-24-2005, 09:11 PM
they still have stuff like that in japan that z-50 i was talking about was a deck, cd changer, processor package that retailed for like 8-10 grand. one of the magizine reviewers often made refference to it vs decks he was testing/reviewing (iirc it was a car stereo review columnist as he owned one i do believe)

Nakman
07-29-2005, 02:04 AM
Nakamichi mb100 or cd700 lots of money but if you want two of cleanest and best sounding on the market that is the way to go. (CD700 being the best)

cjjackson85
07-29-2005, 02:05 AM
Old thread you ****er... :rolleyes: