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DJ Jester
02-23-2005, 08:50 PM
I'm curious as to what speaker or brand of speakers the people on this forum feel is the best speaker for pure vocal clarity and instrumantal timbre.

For those who don't know what timbre is........it is the ability of a speaker to reproduce the sound of a voice or instrument without coloration so that the particular sound is depicted as accurately as it would have been when the sound was made. For example, in a system with good timbre, a violin sounds like a violin and a piccolo sounds like a piccolo. If you listen closely to many systems, even many expensive high grade systems, you will often hear sounds, but not be exactly sure which instrument is making the sound. That is bad.

For example, although the range of the violin extends significantly further than most human voices, they share a frequancy range in the 120-1250Hz area.

Therefore, a speaker that sounds very good producing violin sounds should also reproduce the most of the human singing voice with accuracy, as well. In fact, most musical instruments ( not including percussion ) fall between 80 and 3000 Hz.

So, why are many so called "Midrange Drivers" as well as Midrange Bandpass Crossovers designed to play frequencies between 1500Hz and 6K to 8K HZ or even 10K Hz. Some companies even call their speakers "Mid-vocals" and the speakers don't even play accurately below 1000Hz

Is there, anywhere out there, a small ( 2"-3" ) well-designed speaker with, pure, non-resonant, accurate tonal reproduction of the frequency range between 120Hz and 1400Hz? If so, then please tell me about it.

Thanks,

Jester

DJ Jester
02-24-2005, 11:59 AM
Anyone? Hello?











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Kali77
02-24-2005, 12:12 PM
Bump for an interesting question.. I have no idea though!

JimJ
02-24-2005, 12:34 PM
really tough to say...considering whatever amplifier you pair it with is going to affect "natural tonal reproduction".

I'd just try to get the most linear drivers I could find...too bad they didn't make those XBL^2 enabled mids in a smaller size :)

squeak9798
02-24-2005, 12:38 PM
I'd just try to get the most linear drivers I could find...too bad they didn't make those XBL^2 enabled mids in a smaller size :)

http://www.creativesound.ca/details.php?model=WR125S
http://www.creativesound.ca/pdf/WR125S.PDF

However, to get response down that low they'll likely have to be in a ported cabinet.....I doubt they'd do it IB.

Aura makes some 2" and 3" speakers that, when used in multiples (i.e. 2 or more per side), can give you response down to around 250hz: http://madisound.com/aurasound.html

JimJ
02-24-2005, 12:41 PM
TQWT :D

although I'd like to see you try to stuff a Voight pipe in a car...

its_bacon12
02-24-2005, 01:11 PM
4" revelator?

adire AV3 xbl^2 3" driver? - $18 each

Kali77
02-24-2005, 01:40 PM
Would the Aura 2",3" or the adire 4" revelators go good with a pair Iridium 6.2's and what would you use to run them amp wise. I know install has alot to do with this question but just curious.

Kali

squeak9798
02-24-2005, 02:26 PM
adire AV3 xbl^2 3" driver? - $18 each

I don't see anything on Adire's site stating the AV3 has XBL^2.

squeak9798
02-24-2005, 02:29 PM
Would the Aura 2",3" or the adire 4" revelators go good with a pair Iridium 6.2's and what would you use to run them amp wise. I know install has alot to do with this question but just curious.

Kali

The Revelator is a Scanspeak driver, not an Adire driver.

A good mid to run with the Iridium 6.2's is the Iridium 3" Dome midrange that's sold with the Iridium 3-way set ;)

Kali77
02-24-2005, 02:32 PM
Squeak thank you very much. Still trying to learn alot, still farely new to car audio. If I already have the 6.2's and not the three way set how could I go about adding a midrange driver?

squeak9798
02-24-2005, 02:35 PM
If I already have the 6.2's and not the three way set how could I go about adding a midrange driver?

Since there is actually a 6.3 (3-way) comp set, the best thing to do would be to contact your dealer (if you have one locally) and see if you can purchase the mids and necessary 3-way crossover. If your local dealer won't do it, there are multiple DLS dealers on the forums; Tplaya07 and Scott Buwalda (http://www.carsound.com/cgi-bin/UBB_CGI/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile;u=00000048) (if you don't know who Scott Buwalda is; he is a huge IASCA sound quality competitor and is well known by every one in the industry). Either of them should be able to get them for you.

Kali77
02-24-2005, 02:38 PM
Ok thanks I actually purchased my set from Tplaya07(great person to deal with). I will contact him. Thanks again.

DJ Jester, sorry if I hijacked the thread.