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Flyingzone
02-22-2005, 01:05 PM
Goodmorning..I'm Italian,(sorry for my bad english :uhoh: ) I have some questions about the difference between the Pioneer deh-p8600MP and deh-p860mp Premier(the premier series does'nt exist in italy),and if i can use this 2 model,in Italy,without problems (12Vcc alimentation for italian cars,install dimension,FM radio compatibility,and Digital radio compatibility (DAB=digital audio broadcasting).
Thanks for your answers!!
Denis Calamia...

JAZN
02-22-2005, 02:24 PM
the premier 860 is better than the pioneer 8600. the premier has 6.5v preouts, promode, and a longer warranty. thats it i believe, and both are about the same price.

azazel
02-22-2005, 06:25 PM
There's a very slight color difference as well.

bamaboy
02-22-2005, 07:33 PM
There's a very slight color difference as well.


really? i have a 860mp and ive seen an 8600 at my local store, i didn't notice any color difference

Flyingzone
02-23-2005, 10:19 AM
really? i have a 860mp and ive seen an 8600 at my local store, i didn't notice any color difference

:omg: Thanks a lot Boys...But,about the compatibility for Italy use??
Some words?? :toast:
Grazie...Ops..Thanks.. ;)

loserpunk
02-23-2005, 12:20 PM
do they make a 8600 that is compatible in italy? if they do, and they don't make the premier line, then you best bet for an 860's performance would be the 9600, same performance, just different look

so, if they don't make premier for europe/italy, go for the 9600 if you want the 860's performance, if you want it's looks go w/ the 8600

JAZN
02-23-2005, 12:40 PM
do they make a 8600 that is compatible in italy? if they do, and they don't make the premier line, then you best bet for an 860's performance would be the 9600, same performance, just different look

so, if they don't make premier for europe/italy, go for the 9600 if you want the 860's performance, if you want it's looks go w/ the 8600

are you sure the 9600 has the same performance as the 860? according to pioneers site, the 9600 still has 4v preouts, no promode, and a 1 year warranty (same as 8600). IIRC 860 and 960 have the same performance, and same goes for the 8600 and 9600.

loserpunk
02-23-2005, 02:07 PM
are you sure the 9600 has the same performance as the 860? according to pioneers site, the 9600 still has 4v preouts, no promode, and a 1 year warranty (same as 8600). IIRC 860 and 960 have the same performance, and same goes for the 8600 and 9600.

does it? crap, i thought they were the same, i thought 9600=960, i knew 960 and 860 were the same, well, if there isn't a european capable premier, oh well, go 8600 imo then

Flyingzone
02-24-2005, 03:25 AM
Hooo..Hooo... Horse !!

Thanks for your anwers,but i want buy the 860 Premier,on e-Bay,but my perplexity are in some incompatibiliy with italian FM Frequency (The FM Frequency in italy start by 87,50 Mhz to arrive at108.00 Mhz,is like your pioneer range frequency?),R.D.S. (radio data system)system compatibility,the Vdc power alimentation (is 12v/13,5V dc?)the Italian menu linguage is present in your premier 860 ?,and other things,but don't think now...
In Premier i like the 6v in pre out,is great,because my amplifers,works at low gain,and out of sound distorsion.The 9600 or 960,are much expensive for my pocket now....

Good Punch at everyone !!

Heartily.....Denis Calamia.

azazel
02-24-2005, 01:09 PM
I'm not sure about the 8600/860, but there is a noticeable color difference between the 7600/760.

http://pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/images/portal/cit_3442/63891888DEH-P7600MP_big.jpg
http://pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/images/portal/cit_3442/64496597DEH-P760MP_big.jpg

johnecon2001
02-24-2005, 01:51 PM
The premiers sound a tad different as well. Not better, just different.

ToyTundra
02-24-2005, 09:36 PM
Hooo..Hooo... Horse !!

(The FM Frequency in italy start by 87,50 Mhz to arrive at108.00 Mhz,is like your pioneer range frequency?),



i dunno about pioneers for sure but my old factory HU (Toyota) has a range of 87.75 to 107.9 MHz according to the label. My guess is that both countries have the same range

DrtySthV6SE
02-24-2005, 11:17 PM
Radio is radio, FM should be the same thoughout the world, yes the 860 goes from about 87-108 for FM

Tone
02-25-2005, 07:58 AM
DrtySthV6SE, i see what youre saying, but its the way it tunes into the stations thats the issue..Depends on the mhz stages. In the UK we go up in .5mhz stages which im sure is different in the US?

Flyingzone
02-25-2005, 09:52 AM
Thanks at everyone... :)
In my state (Italy and Europe),the RDS (radio data system) write in the head unit display,station name and various info,meteo info,publicity and other...In U.S.A. this info system,it's called Supertuner IIID??Or i'm wrong??

(My english... :crying: ...Sorry..)

DrtySthV6SE
02-25-2005, 04:07 PM
DrtySthV6SE, i see what youre saying, but its the way it tunes into the stations thats the issue..Depends on the mhz stages. In the UK we go up in .5mhz stages which im sure is different in the US?

if i remember correctly my 860 goes up by the .1, like 94.1 to 94.2 etc, im pretty sure of that

redswingline
02-25-2005, 08:27 PM
DrtySthV6SE, i see what youre saying, but its the way it tunes into the stations thats the issue..Depends on the mhz stages. In the UK we go up in .5mhz stages which im sure is different in the US?


Yeah that is true, the radios on pioneer im not sure which ones have a uk frequency setup. i would contact pioneer and check the model u decide on before you purchase it. Im for sure that all alpines contain the frequency decoder for europe if you run out of luck on the pioneer.