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Berry47
02-09-2005, 12:08 AM
In general i believe that your opinion on most speakers is accurate and that you've much more experience with a variety of speakers. I am getting some aura tweets and am wondering what a good 6.5 inch midrange would be. I have looked at vifa and scanspeak on partsexpress. What would be my best option for good sq.

ss3079
02-09-2005, 12:11 AM
Budget ?
How much power will you be sending them?
How will they be set up? In kicks? Doors? A small enclosure?

- Steve

psycho72
02-09-2005, 02:36 AM
Nobody move.........this is a thread jack............

Hey squeak, while your here, what does your setup consist of?

Naxis2k1
02-09-2005, 04:16 AM
Nobody move.........this is a thread jack............

Hey squeak, while your here, what does your setup consist of?

haha. i think everyone wants to know that. i know hes got illusion audio horns but thats all i know.

squeak9798
02-09-2005, 10:25 AM
Budget ?
How much power will you be sending them?
How will they be set up? In kicks? Doors? A small enclosure?

- Steve


x2

Also need to know where they will be crossed at (well, basically, how low the tweets will be playing and how high the mids need to play). Plus need to know how you will be crossing them over (active or passive) and/or if you have any impedence restrictions.

squeak9798
02-09-2005, 10:34 AM
Nobody move.........this is a thread jack............

Hey squeak, while your here, what does your setup consist of?

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Anyways......


Source: Rockford Fosgate RFX8240 (Denford unit)
Fronts: Illusion Audio Ch1 Horns, Illusion Audio ND-10's 10" "mids" :evil:
Processors: Coustic Design Reference DX-28 3-way xover, PG EQ230 dual 30 band EQ
Amps: (2) Coustic Design Reference Amp-505DR, (2) Coustic Design Reference Amp-510DR, (1) Soundstream Rubicon 702
Sub: Soundsplinter 12" Rl-p


Should all be installed by late Spring (waiting on the fvcking weather to warm up). Other than my sub, none of those products have been produced since 2002....so it's a pretty "old school" system. Reason for so many amps is that I'll have one bridged to each speaker :D Going to be running a fully balanced signal too. Sub will be infinite baffle in my rear deck if all goes well. 10's will be in my doors (again, if all goes well).

Nikuk
02-09-2005, 10:58 AM
in the minivan?

squeak9798
02-09-2005, 11:06 AM
in the minivan?

LOL....no, in my car. I still gotta talk the wifey into letting me upgrade the stereo in the minivan :D It's crap, I paid for the damned thing, but I gotta get her approval to do anything to it :mad: Oh well...such is life.

Nikuk
02-09-2005, 11:12 AM
LOL....no, in my car. I still gotta talk the wifey into letting me upgrade the stereo in the minivan :D It's crap, I paid for the damned thing, but I gotta get her approval to do anything to it :mad: Oh well...such is life.

yes... yes.... that is how they operate. :rolleyes:

Berry47
02-10-2005, 02:25 AM
bugdet is under $150

I will build the crossovers

around 300 watts

Berry47
02-10-2005, 02:26 AM
in the doors

squeak9798
02-10-2005, 09:28 AM
Do you have a rough idea of how high they will need to play? Cause that can make a lot of difference in what speakers to look at :)

swaptrex
02-10-2005, 09:42 AM
Should all be installed by late Spring (waiting on the fvcking weather to warm up).

i figured it was warm in the "shallow depths of Hell."

Berry47
02-10-2005, 11:17 AM
probibly somewhere around 3k hz.

squeak9798
02-10-2005, 11:45 AM
Dayton Reference: http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=295-364 - Don't let the price fool you. These things have been getting seriously, seriously awesome reviews. Been compared to the Seas W18 (Seas Excel), which is one of the best drivers on the market.

Max Fidelity High Q MF-170-75L/4: http://www.meniscusaudio.com/products/maxfidelity.cfm - Compared to Dynaudio in performance. Notice there is a high Q version available that is best suited for IB in doors.

Vifa MG: http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&PartNumber=297-364&DID=7 - Great driver. Comparable to the CDT Eurosport mids.

Peerless HDS: http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&PartNumber=297-638&DID=7 - Again, an excellent driver. Very good reviews all the way around.

Peerless CSX: http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&PartNumber=297-632&DID=7 - Good driver. Many happy customers there.

Usher Carbon Fiber: http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=296-600 - Scanspeaker CF clone. Great driver. Little pricey

Vifa XG18: http://speakercity.com/vifa/dataover/xt.htm, http://speakercity.com/vifa/data/xg18wh00-08a.htm - Bares a striking resemblence to the Alpine Type-X, ey? ;)

Just about anything Morel is good: http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage.cfm?&DID=7&WebPage_ID=3&manufacturer=121&sm=2&so=1

Image Dynamics CX6x series: http://www.cardomain.com/shoplist~b~Image+Dynamics~t~Mid-Range+Speakers

RE XXX6.5's, $179 shipped in the group buy

Adire Extremis: http://adireaudio.com/TextPages/Extremis6PageFrameText.htm

Those are the main ones. Most of them would be under $150/pr....a few of them are more expensive, up to around $200/pr. Any of them would rock :peace:

Berry47
02-10-2005, 01:19 PM
I might run the crossovers in my hu and amp. I can bandpass the midrange using the 100hz high pass on my hu and adjusting the low pas on my amp.

Would this be a good option.

It would be fully adjustable.

THe daytons look great for the money.

Berry47
02-10-2005, 01:20 PM
also is there a 4 ohm option on the daytons. I want to get a descent amouint of power if I use the amp crossovers and the tweeters are 4 ohm.

squeak9798
02-10-2005, 01:35 PM
I might run the crossovers in my hu and amp. I can bandpass the midrange using the 100hz high pass on my hu and adjusting the low pas on my amp.

Would this be a good option.

It would be fully adjustable.

Well....100hz would be a bit too high IMHO. And, does the lowpass on your amps extend all the way up to 3khz?


THe daytons look great for the money.

Yeah, they really are.

squeak9798
02-10-2005, 01:40 PM
also is there a 4 ohm option on the daytons. I want to get a descent amouint of power if I use the amp crossovers and the tweeters are 4 ohm.


Currently, no 4ohm option. The fellas over at ECA complained enough about it that the designer came on and asked our opinions of some things :D So, there is supposed to be a 4ohm Ref in the works, though no current ETA is available.

Honestly though, the maximum difference you would notice is 3db. Not a whole lot of difference there. Not any different than running a driver with a sensitivity of 90db vs. one w/ 87db.


<---- Look, 6666.......LOL :D

JAZN
02-10-2005, 02:11 PM
<---- Look, 6666.......LOL :D

i noticed that too, i know ur beezlebub. dont even lie!

Berry47
02-10-2005, 04:19 PM
I will check the stats on the amp and I was thinking that 100 hz was a little high too.

I could just run a 4 ohm res in series with my tweeter. It might put off a little heat but would raise both my speaks to 8 ohm.

Berry47
02-10-2005, 04:23 PM
My low pass goes to 5k hz and I can bandpass it by using the low pass and high pass at the same time. The high pass goes all the way down to 15hz.

Both are 12bd/octave butterworth filters

squeak9798
02-10-2005, 04:31 PM
I could just run a 4 ohm res in series with my tweeter. It might put off a little heat but would raise both my speaks to 8 ohm.

Find a pair of 4-ohm L-pads if you are super worried about it.

Hit up Don and see if he as some of those L-pads that CDT uses. Those should work fine for level matching the tweet with the mid if needed.

squeak9798
02-10-2005, 04:32 PM
My low pass goes to 5k hz and I can bandpass it by using the low pass and high pass at the same time. The high pass goes all the way down to 15hz.

Both are 12bd/octave butterworth filters

Sweet deal :thumbupw:

Berry47
02-11-2005, 02:59 AM
orders placed

squeak9798
02-11-2005, 09:42 AM
Let us know how it turns out.

Berry47
02-11-2005, 12:49 PM
definately...

thanks everyone for your help

Berry47
02-11-2005, 05:12 PM
I'll be running the midrange between 60-3k hz and the tweeter 3k up.