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MetalMaxima
01-25-2005, 10:50 AM
I found a listing for the Eclipse Avn2454 for $1,000 complete with 2-year warranty card. This kinda sounds too good to be true...what do you think?

http://www.hoobly.com/0/0/75568.html

ngsm13
01-25-2005, 10:53 AM
WOW! If i had a double din opening i would NOT hesitate to get that! oh well....

NG

MetalMaxima
01-25-2005, 10:57 AM
So do you think that this would worth be persuing? Theonly thing that makes me skeptical is the fact that he says 'I got this for Christmas'...and he is selling 5 of them?!

3.5Max6spd
01-25-2005, 01:45 PM
Theonly thing that makes me skeptical is the fact that he says 'I got this for Christmas'...and he is selling 5 of them?!

buahahaha!! :laugh:

j3bus2k3
01-25-2005, 02:32 PM
ask yourself, if he really has 5, and got them for christmas(assuming they were free), why npt put them on ebay and make enen more money....thats always my reasoning to save my arse.

Zombietime
01-25-2005, 02:36 PM
He's also selling a 2002 busa for 4 grand. This guy seems pretty fishy to me.

MetalMaxima
01-25-2005, 02:49 PM
Well, I asked the seller two questions in an e-mail:


(1) Your listing states that you have 5 of these for sale. I was wondering that, since you have 5, I could get one that is NIB (New In Box). The one in your listing has a pretty beat-up looking box.

(2) I would be willing tp purchase one if I can pay via PayPal or a similar form of tender that would allow for me to insure the purchase.

I am not going to point out [to him] the fact that has has FIVE for Christmas...let's see how far he will take this. I am anxious to see what his reply will be.

ScrewOn24s
01-25-2005, 02:53 PM
holly shiznit mine was like 2300 LOL

ANeonRider
01-25-2005, 02:55 PM
Seems a tad shady to me. Would you be able to get the number off of a warranty card and check it with Eclipse?

MetalMaxima
01-25-2005, 03:01 PM
Not sure...I will wait to see if this guy writes me back. I mean, if the warranty is legit and I can pay with PayPal, then hell...I might have one helluva deal on my hands. :greedy:

6spdcoupe
01-25-2005, 03:36 PM
The two year Extended warranty Only applies IF it was bought and installed by an Eclipse dealer. The card will do you absolutely no good. Aside from that like you even said who gets 5 of the same thing for Christmas??? Especially something of higher value like that, were not talking about socks here...

At that price who knows where they came from, but def not from Eclipse. They havent reduced prices THAT much yet.

--Don

denim
01-27-2005, 06:20 PM
hummmm

XDrkmanX
01-27-2005, 07:16 PM
:sneaky: :santa:

:goodorbad :stuck:

:cop::threadloc

the all knowing smilies

MetalMaxima
01-28-2005, 06:56 AM
:sneaky: :santa:

:goodorbad :stuck:

:cop::threadloc

the all knowing smilies

haha, yeah seriously. UPDATE: Close to a full working week with no word from the guy yet. After researching this more, (a) I have found that I'd rather have the Kenwood DDX7015 and (b) I still want to hear what this guy has to say, if anything, purley for entertainment purposes.

:imo: :sneaky:

6spdcoupe
01-28-2005, 08:26 AM
haha, yeah seriously. UPDATE: Close to a full working week with no word from the guy yet. After researching this more, (a) I have found that I'd rather have the Kenwood DDX7015 and (b) I still want to hear what this guy has to say, if anything, purley for entertainment purposes.

:imo: :sneaky:

What made you decide on Kenwood Vs Eclipse??? Ya could always wait a few more weeks for the AVN5435 or AVN5495. Since your in NJ Im sure I can help you out on these.

--Don

MetalMaxima
01-28-2005, 08:52 AM
What made you decide on Kenwood Vs Eclipse??? Ya could always wait a few more weeks for the AVN5435 or AVN5495. Since your in NJ Im sure I can help you out on these.

--Don

Well, a few driving factors, really:

(1) From the reviews that I have read, the Kenwood unit has had better reviews in terms of audio output. While I know most would consider this to be heresy(:waycrazy: ), I have heard more positive reviews of the Kenwood unit than that of the AVN2454.

(2) While it is a more expensive unit, I have the ability to add the navigation unit on at a later date when additional funds free up. Such is not the case with the AVN.

(3) Fitment issues. A few owners of the AVN2454 with whom I have spoken have stated that there is an ugly gap left in the console with the 2454.

BUT...I will not be purchasing the unit until Aprilish, so that leaves me with plenty of time for a change of heart! Do you have any reviews or pics of the new Eclipses,yet?

3.5Max6spd
01-28-2005, 09:24 AM
There isn't a Kenwood product I would put in my car...I've seen that Kenwood double din in person, looks quite cheap in comparison to the Eclipse- The Eclipse has a more classic OEM look, which allows a better overall look-as if it belongs there- thats important for the thieves out there that like to look in

The AVN 5series will have Eclipse's 5v/55ohm outputs for those that wanted higher voltage than the '04 models-
Of course you've heard more positive reviews on the Kenwood unit- afterall its Kenwood and its cheap..... its like the difference between the Maxima owners that put in the cheapest low quality(microvision) screens in their cars, to those that put in an Iconz screen- their purpose is the same thing-one is just simply better ,more tasteful ,better warranty, 1yr theft protection, better processing/dsp, better navi, better touchscreen....list goes on

As far as the 'gap', its a result of our dash and choice of pocket/install - I've seen the same gap with the Kenwood units in a 5th gen

6spdcoupe
01-28-2005, 09:33 AM
3.5max pretty much summed everything up. Keep in mind Kenwood is a more generic product wheras Eclipse has their restrictions on sales and alot less dealers. When there is more of something out there, then of course theyll be more reviews on it.

I do still sell Kenwood although the comeback rate of broken HUs is higher than any other 3 brands I carry combined.

There may be a gap, but that can be with either unit. The Eclipse like posted above has the more OEM look and thats why Toyota/Lexus chose Eclipse to do all their OEM navi units. Not to mention Eclipses 3 year warranty and a year of theft replacement compared to Kenwoods 1 year.

--Don

MetalMaxima
01-28-2005, 09:38 AM
Of course you've heard more positive reviews on the Kenwood unit- afterall its Kenwood and its cheap...


With all due respect, would you mind informing me on how a unit being manufactured by 'Kenwood' and 'being cheap' relate to the positive reviews that have been generated for it?

And as far as being cheap is concerned, I fail to see how the Kenwood unit is cheap when the navigation unit holds an MSRP of $2400 whereas the AVN2454 holds an MSRP of $2199.

But hey, I guess that classifies me in the 'cheap-a$$' microvision class. :rolleyes:

And by virture of your argument, then I should have heard a ton of positive reviews on the Microvision screens, since they are cheap...which I have not.

6spdcoupe
01-28-2005, 09:44 AM
With all due respect, would you mind informing me on how a unit being manufactured by 'Kenwood' and 'being cheap' relate to the positive reviews that have been generated for it?

And as far as being cheap is concerned, I fail to see how the Kenwood unit is cheap when the navigation unit holds an MSRP of $2400 whereas the AVN2454 holds an MSRP of $2199.

But hey, I guess that classifies me in the 'cheap-a$$' microvision class. :rolleyes:

The MSRP of the Kenwood is just numbers. I have Never seen one sold Anywhere Near that price. In Any store anywhere. Same with the Pioneer originally being at $2100, noone no where actually sold close to that high. Its a simple marketing sceme to lead the customer to believe hes getting a 'good' deal. By your last post you can see that this method works.

Eclipse however will stick to its pricing or Very close to it.

I never claimed that kenwood was 'bad' per say, just not a good comparison with both. Like I also said I sell both, so this is not a biased response. If you like the Kenwood, then go for it. We are just giving advice here.

--Don

MetalMaxima
01-28-2005, 09:49 AM
I know, and I am greateful for the constructive criticsm. I still have ALOT to learn!!! :thumbupw:

...but I'm not too keen on someone drawing a correlation to my choice of something other than an Eclipse model as relating me to being 'cheap' and 'distasteful'. I am still looking at a rather expensive unit in either case, not some POS BOSS dvd unit.

Like I said, I have not 100% made up my mind yet...all the reason why I am still looking into all of this!!

3.5Max6spd
01-28-2005, 10:40 AM
I know, and I am greateful for the constructive criticsm. I still have ALOT to learn!!! :thumbupw:

...but I'm not too keen on someone drawing a correlation to my choice of something other than an Eclipse model as relating me to being 'cheap' and 'distasteful'. I am still looking at a rather expensive unit in either case, not some POS BOSS dvd unit.

Like I said, I have not 100% made up my mind yet...all the reason why I am still looking into all of this!!


I made a comparison between 2 products(which I have seen and played with both) whose purpose is the same, I was in no way calling you cheap by any means- Ask 6spdcoupe, I too was inquiring on that DD Kenwook last April after it was released
This is your thread, and you've brought these products into the mix in some sort of comparison. Dont compare apples and oranges in a public forum and take offense, simply because someone who has had more extensive experience with the products mentioned as opposed to looking at it online -doesn't tell you what you want to hear...

I would respect your defensiveness if you actually sat in a car and actually felt and operated both products(like i have) and could make some sort of argument-I'm just offering my 0.02

BTW Pioneer has a DD unit coming out soon worth a look....

MetalMaxima
01-28-2005, 11:16 AM
There may be a gap, but that can be with either unit. The Eclipse like posted above has the more OEM look and thats why Toyota/Lexus chose Eclipse to do all their OEM navi units. Not to mention Eclipses 3 year warranty and a year of theft replacement compared to Kenwoods 1 year.

--Don

That's only if installed by a professional, though...correct? If I purchased an AVN2454 what kind of installation price would I be looking at?