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Dj-torn
01-21-2005, 12:03 PM
I have an 02 Camry, and im looking to boosting the SQ and loudness of it. I am looking into 6.5 component speakers that don't break the budget of $140 and sound great with a factory HU. Currently im looking into the;
Pioneer TS-160R - http://www.nextag.com/serv/main/buyer/OutPDir.jsp?search=ts-c160r&node=0

Feed back please.

squeak9798
01-21-2005, 01:20 PM
Are you using an external amp? If not, I'd suggest just going with a good quality co-axials. Something along the lines of Boston Acoustics, MB Quart, Focal, Alpine, Pioneer REV series, etc etc.

Dj-torn
01-21-2005, 01:46 PM
As of right now now im not using an amp. I was looking at the rev compent speakers from pioneer for the front. But once i establish what kind of power i will need for the front i will purchase the amp accordingly.
I was planing on getting the Pioneer Gm-6000F to power the front speakers, its 4 channel (rated at a continous 120Wx2 bridged @ 4ohm) with an RCA out put where i could hook up a second amp the GM-5000T for my rear speakers which are pioneer 6x9 5 ways.

iceteebone
01-21-2005, 01:50 PM
some good budget components that sound really nice are dls c6 comps. talk to djdilliodon on aim, he'll give you a good price.

tRiGgEr
01-21-2005, 01:50 PM
I would not by components unless running an external amp. If you plan on getting an amp in the near futur, find out what speakers you want first then purchase a matching amp.

Dj-torn
01-22-2005, 12:14 PM
What do you guys think of these speakers to use in the front of my car

Tweeter:
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=14546

Midrange:
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=14547

Are they worth the money, are they not? As you can tell i am trying to stick with the pioneer theme, so that i can get a sponsership form them. If anybody has any info on how to get sponsered i would appreaciate it.

iceteebone
01-22-2005, 08:42 PM
What do you guys think of these speakers to use in the front of my car

Tweeter:
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=14546

Midrange:
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=14547

Are they worth the money, are they not? As you can tell i am trying to stick with the pioneer theme, so that i can get a sponsership form them. If anybody has any info on how to get sponsered i would appreaciate it.


i don't think i'm following you here. you originally said you wanted to keep your budget at $140 but now you want o buy $200 tweeters and mids? and then possibly not amp them? i don't think pioneer will sponsor you with just a set of tweeters and mids. i believe you have to do some sweet *** install and do some comps before they will sponsor you. and finally if you are spending that much money, i wouldn't go for pioneer.

squeak9798
01-22-2005, 09:21 PM
As of right now now im not using an amp. I was looking at the rev compent speakers from pioneer for the front. But once i establish what kind of power i will need for the front i will purchase the amp accordingly.
I was planing on getting the Pioneer Gm-6000F to power the front speakers, its 4 channel (rated at a continous 120Wx2 bridged @ 4ohm) with an RCA out put where i could hook up a second amp the GM-5000T for my rear speakers which are pioneer 6x9 5 ways.


Don't amp your rears....if you must run rear, just run them off of your headunit.

There are better amps than Pioneer. Anymore, amps aren't really their strong suit. What amp to get really depends upon your budget....there are "budget" amps I'd get instead of Pioneer.

squeak9798
01-22-2005, 09:26 PM
What do you guys think of these speakers to use in the front of my car

Tweeter:
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=14546

Midrange:
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=14547

Are they worth the money, are they not? As you can tell i am trying to stick with the pioneer theme, so that i can get a sponsership form them. If anybody has any info on how to get sponsered i would appreaciate it.


Those Pioneer Rev comps are pretty nice.....or atleast they were last time I heard them. But I'd just look for the complete comp set rather than buying the mids and tweets separately.

Forget about getting sponsored.....unless you already have a few world championships (or atleast a few trips to world finals) in either SQ or SPL, it ain't going to happen....so cross that off your list. Go ahead and try....but at best you'll get a free T-shirt or hat.

With that in mind, don't limit yourself to only Pioneer. No single company has the best products to offer in every price range for every type of product. You'll end up with much better equipment overall if you widen your search to other brands, IMHO.

Dj-torn
01-23-2005, 12:46 AM
First and fore most i had a reply for everybody, but due to some technical dificulties it was all erased, but since i want to replay to everybody im going to be brief and to the point to the best of my abilities.

1. The mid and tweeters were a REALLY long shot, but i was just wondering whether it was worth the wait or if i there are other means of getting what i want.

2. Thank you for the heads up with a pioneer sponsership. That would have been a waste of time.

3. What would you recomend as some good 6.5" Component speakers and some 3.5" speakers. I am very much into SQ, and i like to be able to listen to my music w/ my windows rolled down as i drive on the high way. If i must save up some more in order to achieve this then let me know.

4. What would be a good amp for the the component speakers and what would power a pair of pioneer 6x9 5ways (my rear speaker, which i want to powe b/c of my prefereance to rear fill)?

5. As far as a HU is concerened i have started a new thread under HUs concerning the HU that im interested in. Later i will post a link to that thread.

Dj-torn
01-23-2005, 01:13 PM
Today i had to change my tags so while i was at it i took apart my front door panel, i pulled out my factory speaker and realized that i have some really good clearance for some powerful speakers. I also realized that could even place the same speakers i have in the rear (pioneer 6x9 5ay nominal 80W*) in the front. What do you guys think?

*http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=58031&item=5709789584&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V

iceteebone
01-23-2005, 05:46 PM
don't put 6x9's in the front. a good set of components up front should do and there really shouldn't be a need for rearfill but that's up to you. is your budget still $140? if so those dls c6 comps would be nice and fit your budget.

Dj-torn
01-23-2005, 07:15 PM
Im looking for the dls c6 comps but i can't seem to find them, you got link or any suggestions where i can listen to these. I like to listen before i buy.

And thank you

iceteebone
01-23-2005, 08:02 PM
Im looking for the dls c6 comps but i can't seem to find them, you got link or any suggestions where i can listen to these. I like to listen before i buy.

And thank you


not too many people sell them. you can talk to djdilliodon on aim, he sells them

squeak9798
01-23-2005, 08:04 PM
The member Tplaya07 is a DLS and OZ Audio dealer. For DLS, those c6 are good. Also, I believe he can get you OZ Audio Vector 6.5 comps for $115 shipped, and they sound really good, especially for the price. If you want to listen before you buy, then hop on their webpages and look for a local dealer..... DLS: http://www.dls.se/english/index.htm, OZ Audio; http://www.ozaudio.com/index.shtml

I still say that if you must run rears, just power them from your HU's rear outputs and only amp the fronts with an external amp.

As ice mentioned, I wouldn't run 6x9's in front. If you want to go a cheaper route, go with some 6.5" co-axials. Also, that 5-way stuff is just a marketing scheme. With co-axials, basically anything more than 2-way is just marketing.

Dj-torn
01-24-2005, 02:00 PM
Thanks for the websites i found a dealer for the DLS's that lives real close to me so im going to try and call him up.

Hopefuly tomorrow i will be hitting some stores up to listen to their speakers as well and see if i can't listen to the dls's.

I saw these speaker baffels while browising through the site i wanted to know what you guys think, are the work the money, is hard better than soft, ect? http://www.autotoys.com/x/catalog/Speakers_Woofers_SPEAKER_BAFFLES__DAMPING_SPEAKER_ PRODUCTS_page_1_c_561.html

Thank in advance

squeak9798
01-24-2005, 03:12 PM
They are a very good way to protect your speakers from damage. Almost all doors leak water, and water + speakers = bad, very bad.

Dj-torn
01-25-2005, 11:14 PM
Ok guys so here is the conclusion of my shopping, please tell me what you would go with.

Vector 6.5"

http://jti-innovation.com/oz/oz_prod_vec_comp.htm


Boston Acoustic FS60

http://www.bostonacoustics.com/ca_product.asp?ProductID=67&CategoryID=14


MB Quart PCE 216 & RCE 216

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=13544

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=13552


Alpine SPS-171A & SPR-136A

http://www.epinions.com/pr-Alpine_Type-S_SPS171A_6-1_2_2-way_Component_Speakers_System_6-1_2_Component_Systems

http://www.epinions.com/Alpine_5_25__Type_R_Component_2_Way_Speaker_SPR_13 6A__Component_System_SPR_136A

Im feeling the Boston b/c of the flush mount tweeter, and alpine b/c they had some really good sound.

Thanks for all your help everybody

Hundreth
01-26-2005, 02:17 AM
Why wouldn't you run 6x9 coaxials in the front? j/w.. because i was thinking about doing that with OZ vectors

squeak9798
01-26-2005, 10:05 AM
Ok guys so here is the conclusion of my shopping, please tell me what you would go with.

Vector 6.5"

http://jti-innovation.com/oz/oz_prod_vec_comp.htm


Boston Acoustic FS60

http://www.bostonacoustics.com/ca_product.asp?ProductID=67&CategoryID=14


MB Quart PCE 216 & RCE 216

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=13544

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=13552


Alpine SPS-171A & SPR-136A

http://www.epinions.com/pr-Alpine_Type-S_SPS171A_6-1_2_2-way_Component_Speakers_System_6-1_2_Component_Systems

http://www.epinions.com/Alpine_5_25__Type_R_Component_2_Way_Speaker_SPR_13 6A__Component_System_SPR_136A

Im feeling the Boston b/c of the flush mount tweeter, and alpine b/c they had some really good sound.

Thanks for all your help everybody


Of those options, I personally would go with the Vectors or the Bostons.

squeak9798
01-26-2005, 10:06 AM
Why wouldn't you run 6x9 coaxials in the front? j/w.. because i was thinking about doing that with OZ vectors


What? Run 6x9's up front with a component set?

Hundreth
01-26-2005, 02:45 PM
not components, coaxials... would that make a difference? just want a cheap speaker exchange that i can do myself and fast so that i can enjoy until i get a new ride..

Dj-torn
01-26-2005, 03:13 PM
To: squeak9798

Do you happen to know the mounting depth on the Bostons? I have about 2.5" from the frame to the glass and about 1" from the frame to he kickpanel.

I'm thinking of taking a 10"x10" MDF and placing it as a base for the speakers, im just not sure if it should be .75" or .5" thick. The idea is to use the MDF as a mounting bracket aswell where I will put it into place by drilling holes that will line up to where the factory speaker was screwed in and then just make an opening for the speaker and screw it into the MDF. Is this a bad idea, if so i am open to new ones?

Its aslo gonna take me some time, b/c i have never done this before, and i don't have the tools, so i will have to borrow tools and all that to get it done. I was thinking of getting Home depo and doing it there, if they let me, if not getting them to do the holes and what not. Or should i go to a car shop and get them to do it for me?

Dj-torn
01-27-2005, 07:17 PM
I have found the mounting depth is exactly 2.5" so im will have to raise it some how.

1. So should i use de MDF to bring it out a 0.75" or are there other products out there?
2. If i do this will i have to place some rubber between the MDF and the metal to prevent ratteling?
3. Will a mounting bracket raise the speaker 0.75"?

please help and thank you in advance.