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JAZN
01-20-2005, 03:49 PM
i'm in a bit of a crunch cuz my amp doesnt put out that much power. it does:
50-85 x 2 @ 4ohm
100 x 2 @ 2ohm
(probably underrated on both)
i'm thinking of getting the ID cxs62 (chameleons), in which i would only be giving them 100w. would i be doing them justice at that much power or should i get something else that requires less power?

squeak9798
01-20-2005, 03:57 PM
That would work with them.

Vestax
01-20-2005, 03:58 PM
As long as you get the 2 ohm set, you should be fine.

JAZN
01-20-2005, 04:02 PM
thank ya kindly.

iceteebone
01-21-2005, 01:31 AM
i had some id cx62 mids with 100 watts rms and they sounded down right awful. i'm throwing my dls mids back in as soon as it gets above 0 outside.

JAZN
01-21-2005, 03:01 AM
why is that? underpowering or cuz of install?

iceteebone
01-21-2005, 11:56 AM
why is that? underpowering or cuz of install?


i think i may have got a bad set of mids. i installed them in the same doors as my dls mids which sound a thousand times better. these things handle no power at all. can only turn my gain up like 1/6th and they start poping, and seem to be bottoming out. they don't get very loud at all. my doors are well deadened and my dls mids sounded great in the doors, but i thought i would get these id's because they are 2 ohm therefore i can get more power to them then my dls.

JAZN
01-21-2005, 12:06 PM
that seems weird. thanx for clearing that up.

squeak9798
01-21-2005, 12:12 PM
they don't get very loud at all.

Sounds like you got a bad set. They are designed to work well with horns, which means they should at the very least have decent output. Many IASCA competitors are running them or have run them with great success.

iceteebone
01-21-2005, 12:14 PM
Sounds like you got a bad set. They are designed to work well with horns, which means they should at the very least have decent output. Many IASCA competitors are running them or have run them with great success.


the reason they don't get loud at all is because as soon as i try to turn the gain up they start popping. i'm wondering if it is possibly tinsel slap?

squeak9798
01-21-2005, 12:18 PM
Definitely sounds like there is something wrong. I doubt you have tinsel lead slap on a mid like that, but maybe the VC's are misaligned or something of that nature. I dunno, hard to say without being there. But from your description it sounds like something isn't right.

iceteebone
01-21-2005, 12:27 PM
Definitely sounds like there is something wrong. I doubt you have tinsel lead slap on a mid like that, but maybe the VC's are misaligned or something of that nature. I dunno, hard to say without being there. But from your description it sounds like something isn't right.


i was told that because i used a plastic spacer instead of mdf, they wouldn't sound good. is this true?

squeak9798
01-21-2005, 12:31 PM
MDF would be better (more solid mounting surface, less resonance, etc...).

iceteebone
01-21-2005, 12:33 PM
MDF would be better (more solid mounting surface, less resonance, etc...).


but the plastic one wouldn't be making my speaker pop or bottom out would it?

squeak9798
01-21-2005, 12:36 PM
Nope. Not like you are having. MDF would give you a slight boost in output (for reasons already mentioned), but they shouldn't be bottoming out or jumping out of the gap (or whatever is causing the popping noise) as easily as you make it sound.

iceteebone
01-21-2005, 12:39 PM
Nope. Not like you are having. MDF would give you a slight boost in output (for reasons already mentioned), but they shouldn't be bottoming out or jumping out of the gap (or whatever is causing the popping noise) as easily as you make it sound.


i guess i'll have to ship these off to ID then. these things are rated at 150 watts rms and i'm giving them 100 and they can't handle the power at all. maybe my polarity is mixed up?

squeak9798
01-21-2005, 12:44 PM
Where'd you have your xover point? Is your door totally sealed?

iceteebone
01-21-2005, 12:47 PM
Where'd you have your xover point? Is your door totally sealed?


i used the headunit x-over at 80 hz. hp. actually i did miss a spot that needs to be covered. i just ordered some more deadner

http://img73.exs.cx/img73/6035/86n0412911272su.jpg

squeak9798
01-21-2005, 01:01 PM
Yeah....call ID. Sounds like bad drivers.

iceteebone
01-21-2005, 01:03 PM
Yeah....call ID. Sounds like bad drivers.


i also put a hole in the surround of one of them when trying to mount it, think they will still honor my warranty?

blackgeltabs
01-21-2005, 01:30 PM
Though to say. They are really good people though. Ive seen them go out of their way for a guy who had a bad IDMAX and he didnt buy it from an authorized dealer and they still gave him the warrenty.

Might be tinsel slap, I had that happen to me on a pair of CDT midbass drivers. Sounded like there was a little piece of something under the dust cap bouncin around.

HAVINGFUN
01-21-2005, 01:38 PM
I did not read all the posts but have you taken them out of the doors and run them free-air to see if it still does it.....also watch the tinsel's when you do this. Check all wiring as well

iceteebone
01-21-2005, 01:55 PM
it seems like now it is only the drivers side popping. i think maybe the cone is hitting the door panel. i have the door panel removed from the right side and it doesn't pop. i might try to just return these and use my dls again. i was happy with them so i might go back to them.

limitkid7
01-22-2005, 09:12 AM
i got the 2ohm ones, u want em? they are brand new -

i blew the set i had so i'm sending them in to get a new pair then i'm going to sell them... (comes w/2.5 yr warranty).

JAZN
01-22-2005, 01:11 PM
aww u just missed it, i just ordered a set last nite. thanx for the offer tho.

limitkid7
01-22-2005, 07:50 PM
Okkkkkkkkkk

Slody4Futbol
01-23-2005, 07:21 PM
how much you askin for them?

limitkid7
01-23-2005, 09:34 PM
~$300.00