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Raven
12-30-2004, 09:01 PM
Okay, here's the challenge. I want good, but I don't know what good is. This is my second install, so all I know as far as front staging is Stock, Sony, and Roadmaster.

I have roughly $150 - $200, and I'll attach whatever I buy to a Jensen JXP460 (Renamed to A46XP later on). Advertises 85wrms X 2 @ 4 ohm. 30 amp fuse, I figure worse case scenario is 60RMS per channel. It used to drive 10s in a friends car.

I hear stuff about DLS, RE, CDT, Oz, and the usual mainstream stuff, but as usual, I can't actually listen to any of it since in this part of Michigan, if it's not found in BB, CC, or isn't Anaba or Pyramid, it doesn't exist.

SO, All I'm asking is for maybe a review of components you've heard, or a link or two to some reviews of different components in my price range. Maybe this will help me with my decision. Thanks.

Leaning toward Oz Vector 6.5s (Woofer in door, tweeter wherever I put it.)

audiolife
12-30-2004, 09:05 PM
good choice

phsballin4life
12-30-2004, 09:12 PM
try the components in my sig can get them on ebay for $210 shipped

Raven
12-30-2004, 09:29 PM
NO. No more ebay. I'm sick of that sh*t. Every thing car audio I buy on ebay is either damaged even though it's "new" or a "Working" amplifier that filters out everything but static. Either new, or from the classified. No ebay.

That said, I'm reading through as much of this forum as possible. I do it regularly, but now I have a reason. I'll post a bunch of brands I find, and if you see something you want to vouch for, do it.

RE RE 6.5's, anyone have experience? $160 + shipping
RE is quite a trusted brand around here. Even I recommend them, based off the innumerable good reviews their subs get.

Oz Vectors, +/- 2 decibels from 50hz-20khz! $130ish + shipping
Squeak's *****, he pimps these things for every cheapy component thread. Sure, +/- 2db is nice, and their higher line did get that perfect score in the IASCA.

Image Dynamics CX-S6. Price? $350 MSRP... Oh... nevermind. Haha.

CDT? Too much? Looks like it..

Rainbow Dreamlines! $150 + shipping?! I must know! This company puts about 50% of their profits into R&D. Again, like RE, I've yet to see a bad review!

bonesninja
12-30-2004, 09:32 PM
oz vectors are awesome--i can check on some local prices for you ---we have a dealer here in town--where in michigan you at?

Raven
12-30-2004, 09:38 PM
I'm seriously leaning towards them. I'm just sceptical. I mean, I could cotact tdplaya07 (sp?) and get them $115 shipped, wouldn't everyone with no money and need for components run them?

ED 6000s, not out yet last I knew, but in my price range. I'll have to think about that one.

bonesninja
12-30-2004, 09:41 PM
i had oz vectors comps in my 97 taurus and loved em to death. i had too much power going to them and sometimes if i overpowered them instead of frying or distorting like hell the protection circuit in them would simply turn em off. and they did indeed sound great. the prices you listed for em can't be beat IMHO.

audiolife
12-30-2004, 09:49 PM
Oz Vectors, +/- 2 decibels from 50hz-20khz! $130ish + shipping
Squeak's *****, he pimps these things for every cheapy component thread. Sure, +/- 2db is nice, and their higher line did get that perfect score in the IASCA.

Image Dynamics CX-S6. Price? $350 MSRP... Oh... nevermind. Haha.

CDT? Too much? Looks like it..

Rainbow Dreamlines! $150 + shipping?! I must know! This company puts about 50% of their profits into R&D. Again, like RE, I've yet to see a bad review!

i rode in that car lol it also did the perfect rta in a weird way but i wont get into that

Raven
12-30-2004, 10:05 PM
Well, all I really have to go by is numbers and reviews. The REs are looking more appealing after this (http://forums.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=75260).

squeak9798
12-30-2004, 10:52 PM
I've heard good things about the RE mids; not so good things about the RE tweets. That's all personal preference though.

Pimping the Vectors is my "response" to the CDT pimps :D

DLS has a good comp set in your price range as well.....MR6 I believe is the model #. Either that or MS6? Can't recall right now :D You can get them from Tplaya07 for ~$215 shipped. He can get you the Vectors for ~$115 shipped aswell.

The Focal Access and Polyflex are in your price range. As well as the little-known Peerless Definitions ($179).

Raven
12-30-2004, 11:47 PM
Okay, so there's a bunch more brands. Naturally, none of 'em have ever been reviewed or anything...

djdilliodon
12-31-2004, 12:32 AM
try the components in my sig can get them on ebay for $210 shipped

u can get them for 200 shipped and with the better 1" tweeters and dont have to even deal with ebay :)

supa_c
12-31-2004, 12:34 AM
n/m, i cant read

kappa546
12-31-2004, 01:54 AM
what size ar eyou lookin for? i've got a set of 5.25 comps that'll blow all the above mentioned away. as a matter of fact, i havent heard anything under 500 that sounds better. i use the 6.5's in my car :)

Raven
12-31-2004, 10:59 AM
I can mount 5.25s, but I was really hoping for 6.5s because of the midbass. Right now, I changed my mind again, and plan on getting the RE components and just replacing the tweeters with Aura ones I'm getting from DesertHeat.

ighettoboyi
12-31-2004, 01:19 PM
don's tryin to make a sale hahaha

Raven
12-31-2004, 10:18 PM
I'm afraid Don's not gonna make a sale today.

I will probably just buy the Oz Vectors.

djdilliodon
12-31-2004, 10:53 PM
I'm afraid Don's not gonna make a sale today.

I will probably just buy the Oz Vectors.

don just ran out of them :(

Berry47
01-01-2005, 07:43 PM
I would definately get the Re's or the oz. I have loved every RE product I have ever heard and will redommend anything they put out. great stuff.

supa_c
01-01-2005, 07:49 PM
I was going to get the OZ's but Tim had a better pair of components for me.

squeak9798
01-01-2005, 08:35 PM
Tplaya07 can get ya the OZ Audio Vectors.

Raven
01-01-2005, 11:25 PM
You make that very clear with every post you make that has the words "Oz" and "Vector".

rocchi
01-02-2005, 12:01 PM
I love my orion P6.2's

squeak9798
01-02-2005, 02:05 PM
You make that very clear with every post you make that has the words "Oz" and "Vector".


Hehe....sorry, I'm not tryin' to "pimp" him, I just didn't know if you knew....which apparently you did :D

Sorry

Raven
01-02-2005, 10:22 PM
Hehe....sorry, I'm not tryin' to "pimp" him, I just didn't know if you knew....which apparently you did :D

Sorry

It's all good. I'm going to contact Oz directly, first, and ask them for a price, shipped. I don't know if Tplaya07 is an authorized dealer or anything. If he's not, and the price difference between Tplaya07 and straight from Oz isn't too great, I'll buy them from Oz. Nothing against Tplaya07, it's just my own peace of mind knowing they are factory direct.

supa_c
01-02-2005, 10:32 PM
He is.

squeak9798
01-02-2005, 10:56 PM
He is.


Yup. Plus I do not believe OZ will sell to customers directly.

Raven
01-02-2005, 11:04 PM
I find that a poor move. Your choices as a company are A) Sell direct or B) Make no sale, since there's no chance of me finding a dealer in my area.

Tomorrow, after the drawing, I will email him about it. I know it's selfish, but should I win, it might save me a little money, cause I will be spending a lot tomorrow.

supa_c
01-02-2005, 11:11 PM
Squeak, i asked him on AIM ;)
He is authourized for all his stuff

Raven
01-03-2005, 03:38 PM
And that was what finalized all of it. I *just* paid him the $115 for the Vectors.

Now, if only IA was nice enough to respond to my emails and posts in their forum I'd be all set.

Raven
01-04-2005, 05:19 PM
OZ VECTORS ARE OUT OF THE PICTURE

Yes, word from Tplaya07, which I think I missed coming from an above post, too, is that Oz is out of 6.5 Vector Component sets until March.

So here we go again.

Rainbow Dreamline 6.5s, or if I can find them for not much more than $200, Rainbow Soundlines. What do you think?

rocchi
01-04-2005, 06:37 PM
Orion P6.2's

Raven
01-04-2005, 06:48 PM
Going for originality, at least a little bit. I see those a lot. Rainbows are a different story.

supa_c
01-04-2005, 06:51 PM
DLS MS6's !
( can be had for a bit over 200)

justsayk
01-04-2005, 06:54 PM
rocchi, how many of your 57 posts are about orion components? Have you heard anything else? Not trying to be mean, just wondering what else you have heard to base your opinion on.

Raven
01-04-2005, 07:40 PM
Okay, to sum things up.

I will not buy DLS. All quality aside, I want something not every car audio nut and his mom own or have owned at one time.

Current choice: Buying in a few hours: http://www.speedsound.com/caraudio.asp?pg=products&specific=jncnqrmng

supa_c
01-04-2005, 07:45 PM
Nice and ugly...yumm
Not everyone has DLS, more people have CDT

squeak9798
01-04-2005, 08:04 PM
Okay, to sum things up.

I will not buy DLS. All quality aside, I want something not every car audio nut and his mom own or have owned at one time.

Current choice: Buying in a few hours: http://www.speedsound.com/caraudio.asp?pg=products&specific=jncnqrmng

I'd wager to say that there are just as many people, if not more, that have Rainbow as there are people with DLS.

Not saying Rainbow isn't good, cause they are......but don't rule out DLS on the basis of mass ownership.

If you want something pretty obscure here in the states....try to find some AVI speakers. They are a Canadian based company.

Raven
01-04-2005, 08:05 PM
Touché. Nonetheless, my mind is made up. I want Rainbow Dreamlines.

squeak9798
01-04-2005, 08:07 PM
Touché. Nonetheless, my mind is made up. I want Rainbow Dreamlines.


LOL....that's the way to do it. Set your mind on something and get it. I wish I had that kind of control.....I'll spend > 1 year trying to make up my mind....LOL

Raven
01-04-2005, 08:14 PM
Well, I had my mind on Rainbow ever since I heard about their efforts to fund R&D. They have been high up on my list since I learned about them. However, only now do I realize I can actually afford them. If I'd known they were this inexpensive before, I would not have bothered Tplaya07 and just bought the Rainbows at first. Oz Vectors were a second choice, I bought them because I thought Rainbow was too expensive.

But I know how you feel. My current setup was a bunch of split moment decision after telling myself I would not settle for less than AudioPipe 10s and Pyramid speakers. This was/is the extent of the car audio knowledge at the high school before I graduated. I bought my Sonys from a friend with a Sony HU for $120. The SPLs were from the heavy pressure of an equally heavy dealer, who took 45 minutes to install them even though I'd already run all the wires.

I got screwed over once. Not gonna happen twice, that's all I have to say.

justsayk
01-04-2005, 09:29 PM
Is there anywhere on the web i can go to find more information on rainbow speakers? speedsound.com has some pretty good prices on the dreamlines.

supa_c
01-04-2005, 09:30 PM
Here is a good site:
www.google.com ;)

Raven
01-04-2005, 09:35 PM
Wrong, supa_c. I sifted through Google for hours. As far as it's concerned, Rainbow doesn't really exist. Searching for "Rainbow Dreamlines" gives a huge number of forum threads of people asking about Rainbow Dreamlines. How ironic is that? =p

justsayk
01-04-2005, 09:44 PM
Here is a good site:
www.google.com ;)

Wrong.

I did find this from another forum...

http://car.rainbow-audio.de/home/home.php?lan=3

supa_c
01-04-2005, 09:48 PM
whatever, at least you got it.
I couldnt remember that site, even though ive been there before

Raven
01-04-2005, 09:52 PM
Hahahaha, just saying, Google is usually the first thing I use. I was on there for hours today, hoping for at least 2 stores that sell them. I found ampmanaudio, but it looks like they are long out of business.

justsayk
01-04-2005, 09:55 PM
has anybody here actually heard these? Squeak maybe? I would like to hear more about them but i doubt i am going to find any reviews online. Would be interested especially in midbass performance.

Raven
01-05-2005, 04:26 PM
I found one the other day, someone had given the Rainbow Dreamlines a perfect rating along with a 3 word review.


Midbass from Hell!!!

justsayk
01-05-2005, 05:21 PM
hmmm, well its down to the dreamlines, CDT ef61cf1/25, or DLS R6a's for me. Leaning towards DLS right now because those things look crazy.

ieatdrt
01-05-2005, 06:09 PM
Maybe I missed something but what about ID Chameleon CXS series?

justsayk
01-05-2005, 06:16 PM
going for 200 and under.

rocchi
01-05-2005, 06:31 PM
I have orion components, and I have diamond components. I have heard many different components but I just love the orions. As far as amps old ppi pcx series or art. And for head units I like pioneer alot and I love my kenwood kdc-x959. I know I have alot to say about these components but I just think they sound much better than the lower end cdt line for the same price, and I have also heard the re's and I like the orions better.

supa_c
01-05-2005, 07:37 PM
hmmm, well its down to the dreamlines, CDT ef61cf1/25, or DLS R6a's for me. Leaning towards DLS right now because those things look crazy.Ahh, good.
The DLS tweeters are the coolest ive seen:bowdown:

silent1
01-05-2005, 08:20 PM
Ive got the Orion p6.2s. Im not done tuning them but one things for sure, if your looking for midbass, these have plenty. They blow the Cdts and Peerless out of the water with pure bass output. They have titanium tweeters, but they sound good and are not harsh mounted low. IMO metal domes seems to be better in a kick panel or door panel install than silk, and silk is better when mounted up high, or when 2 sets are being used. Of course any component can use some equalization, these being no exception. I dont have enough experience to give a full review, but if you email me in a week or so I could be more helpful

justsayk
01-06-2005, 12:45 AM
Ahh, good.
The DLS tweeters are the coolest ive seen:bowdown:

Yep, they look like little basketballs, lol. The magnets on the R6a mids is also pretty massive. And i don't think i can go wrong comming from MTX 8000's.

justsayk
01-06-2005, 12:58 AM
Yeah, those p6.2's would be alright, but they are 3 ohm, and i am planning on bridging my amp so i need something 4 ohm. Also, the DLS just look higher quality all around. I am looking for a lot of midbass, but midbass isn't everything.

Raven
01-06-2005, 10:40 AM
Bear with me: #FINDCOMP01
For use later on with the search button. This thread could be useful, because it's what everyone asks. For reference, I'm just waiting for speedsound.com to open back up and buy the dreamlines.

silent1
01-06-2005, 07:42 PM
The Orion set I have are 4 ohm. Maybe last years was 3? No where does it say this set is 3 ohm. My manual says its 4. Anyhow I dont think you'd have a problem even if they were 3 ohm.

justsayk
01-06-2005, 08:21 PM
Well, i already got the DLS...Now i should have a pretty darn good little SQ system, with plenty of bass :)

rocchi
01-07-2005, 01:51 PM
Yea mine are 3ohms at 100rms

silent1
01-07-2005, 07:25 PM
I think last years p6.2s were 3 ohms... or something?

Raven
01-07-2005, 08:08 PM
Multimeter, anyone?

silent1
01-08-2005, 11:00 AM
Re is 3.17, Z is 4 ohms

Stangs400
02-21-2005, 10:57 AM
so how do the rainbows compare to the ef61cfi???? thats my dilema right now!

FDeez
02-21-2005, 12:21 PM
^x2