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phsballin4life
12-28-2004, 07:15 PM
lookin into gettin this head unit? ne1 kno if its ne good?

iceteebone
12-28-2004, 07:59 PM
lookin into gettin this head unit? ne1 kno if its ne good?


i would personally look into the 8600 instead. it has all the same stuff as the 9600 except the dual display. pioneer had problems with the that display, plus in my opinion i don't believe it is worth the extra money for the display. the 8600 has plenty of features and an excellent display.

phsballin4life
12-30-2004, 06:53 PM
bump

XDrkmanX
12-30-2004, 07:31 PM
i would personally look into the 8600 instead. it has all the same stuff as the 9600 except the dual display. pioneer had problems with the that display, plus in my opinion i don't believe it is worth the extra money for the display. the 8600 has plenty of features and an excellent display.

X 2

Get the 8600

davidfre21
12-30-2004, 07:33 PM
cangt go wrong with pioneer :thumbsup:

i love my 8600 :)

loserpunk
12-30-2004, 07:44 PM
get the 860, not the 8600, the 8600 is NOT the same as the 960/9600 whereas the 860 is except for the display

pks71
12-30-2004, 08:40 PM
get the premier860

bamaboy
12-30-2004, 10:37 PM
i love my premier 860 awsome features

cdr
12-30-2004, 11:38 PM
I wouldnt get either the 8600 or 9600 wait till january the new *700 series will be hitting the shelves and they look good, many of the higher end ones are 04 premier models, but the lower end models have taken a bit of a cut on some features. 7700 and up though are awesome.

loserpunk
12-31-2004, 10:32 AM
I wouldnt get either the 8600 or 9600 wait till january the new *700 series will be hitting the shelves and they look good, many of the higher end ones are 04 premier models, but the lower end models have taken a bit of a cut on some features. 7700 and up though are awesome.

may i ask how you know this?

i'd love to see the new 970 if they make it(they never made a 950 so i'm still skeptical)

iceteebone
12-31-2004, 10:39 AM
get the 860, not the 8600, the 8600 is NOT the same as the 960/9600 whereas the 860 is except for the display


besides the preouts, how is the 8600 different from the 860??

cdr
12-31-2004, 11:18 AM
well the 1700, 2700 and new DEHP-80MP (the old Premier 8MP) have already hit the stock shelves at the wholesaler where I work, and the rest are on their way.

mudd
12-31-2004, 11:22 AM
I agree with the consensus. If you HAVE to do one of those decks, get the 8600 over the 9600. Pioneer's had an issue with those dual display motorized units since the 8500, and never did completely fix it.

ighettoboyi
12-31-2004, 12:11 PM
kinda off topic but do any of you pioneer guys swear by your products over say an alpine? reasons?

loserpunk
01-01-2005, 02:15 PM
besides the preouts, how is the 8600 different from the 860??

look at the site, i can't remember them, but there are a couple things you can adjust a little more thoroughly on the 860 than the 8600 iirc, they aren't major things, but seeing how you can get them for about the same price on ebay i think it's worth it to get the 860

Rawr-DQ
01-01-2005, 03:38 PM
-"CD signal-to-noise ratio 99 dB" doesn't have a the greatest stn ratio, but pioneers highest that I've seen on crutchfield is 100. the highest on there is 120, lowest...like 89? So its somewhere in the middle.
-Has a 4v pre out, so it does have a resistance to noise in the wires...hmm...
-Has"» Auto EQ (uses an included microphone and 13-band equalizer to fit the sound to your vehicle's acoustics)"
which sounds really cool if it works, or just a crap feature.
-The display features are good, multiple colors?

Well its packed with a bunch of features, but it doesn't have a really good quality for that price, but it isn't bad. If you like MP3 disk, it gots that covered, but the compressed quality of your MP3 and the stn ratio doesn't help however the 13 band auto EQ, and 5 band ez eq should help.

That thing turns up the volume if there is changes in road noise (ie theres more...)

I dunno, it isn't all that bad, but for that price I would imagine better sound quality.
If what you want are features and a shinny display go ahead and get it.

iceteebone
01-01-2005, 09:25 PM
-"CD signal-to-noise ratio 99 dB" doesn't have a the greatest stn ratio, but pioneers highest that I've seen on crutchfield is 100. the highest on there is 120, lowest...like 89? So its somewhere in the middle.
-Has a 4v pre out, so it does have a resistance to noise in the wires...hmm...
-Has"» Auto EQ (uses an included microphone and 13-band equalizer to fit the sound to your vehicle's acoustics)"
which sounds really cool if it works, or just a crap feature.
-The display features are good, multiple colors?

Well its packed with a bunch of features, but it doesn't have a really good quality for that price, but it isn't bad. If you like MP3 disk, it gots that covered, but the compressed quality of your MP3 and the stn ratio doesn't help however the 13 band auto EQ, and 5 band ez eq should help.

That thing turns up the volume if there is changes in road noise (ie theres more...)

I dunno, it isn't all that bad, but for that price I would imagine better sound quality.
If what you want are features and a shinny display go ahead and get it.

actually the pioneer has excellent sq. you also forgot to mention pioneer's 24 bit D/A converter compared to other companies, like alpines, 1 bit. 100 db s/n ratio is not bad. also if you get the 860 you get 6.5 volt preouts.

Rawr-DQ
01-01-2005, 09:41 PM
Yeah, go for the 860 instead.

supa_c
01-01-2005, 09:45 PM
S/N ratio is a bad way to compare things.
You cant even notice the difference anyways.