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IgnoreMe
12-21-2004, 01:14 PM
the speakers i have had used or have experience with are the cdt cd 61-a's, the alpine type r's, and the RE RE comps. im tryin to sell my car and since they RE's tweets are mounted in the door panel i cant take them out and sell the car with tweeter holes in them lol (altho bullet holes are ok haha). anyways here is my predicament. i want speakers that get louder than the RE's that are still relitivly cheap. hopefully not too much more than 200-250 bucks. ive read about somd DLS speakers and a few others and i was thinkin DLS BUT then i read somewhere that although they sound awesome, they dont get as loud as some would hope. so hopefully anyone that has experience with the RE speakers have any suggestion on speakers that sound just as good but get louder for a decent price? also im sellin the alpine amp with the car so power is not an issue right now, just speakers. i can always find a amp to match.

IgnoreMe
12-21-2004, 05:44 PM
no one has any experience with these speakers to reccomend something better?

rocchi
12-21-2004, 07:26 PM
The components I would reccomend are the orion P6.2's I love mine.

IgnoreMe
12-21-2004, 08:58 PM
thats good and all but have you ever compared them to the speakers i listed? i need them to be positivly louder than those listed.

supa_c
12-21-2004, 09:04 PM
Thet get loud....;)
MS6's are around your range, if you want to spend a little more and have a little bit more power handeling the Ultimate series UP6's would be the ones.

silent1
12-21-2004, 09:14 PM
I just ordered the Orion p6.2s. Ive also had the Cl-61as, so I can compare those two. I wont be able to install them for a couple of weeks though. :(

IgnoreMe
12-21-2004, 09:16 PM
Thet get loud....;)
MS6's are around your range, if you want to spend a little more and have a little bit more power handeling the Ultimate series UP6's would be the ones.
ok sweet. ive been thinking A LOT lately. my question is, is it possible to get 4 15" sx's in a caprice trunk? i believe they have 20 cubes but i dont know whether its all flat or if its curved or what. thats what im thinking though, is gettin another 2 15" sx's and another viper. now of course this is gonna be a while before anything happens but now that ive thought about it, i think i can move my budget up to maybe 400 bucks if it is 100% positive that the speakers would be able to keep up with 4 15's. would 400 bucks put me into a different area of the componant speaker world? btw i think im gonna need ones with real good power handling

Moe Lester
12-21-2004, 09:19 PM
4 6.5 mid/midbasses and a pair of horns maybe? probably more than you want to spend though.

supa_c
12-21-2004, 09:19 PM
it curves pretty bad at the back, spare tire sits up there.
For $400...def the Iridiums.
If you want good power handeling pick up some XXX components
Just remember this...all the high quality components cant take 200W rms.

IgnoreMe
12-21-2004, 09:23 PM
it curves pretty bad at the back, spare tire sits up there.
For $400...def the Iridiums.
If you want good power handeling pick up some XXX components
i only remmeber lookin into a 91+ caprice once and i forgot what the trunk looks like but thats a bummer. well see though, maybe it can be done since all i would need would be 14 cubes+port which still gives me prolly 5 cubes of play. now about the iridiums, those are from DLS if i remember right. i read somewhere that some of the DLS speakers dont get that loud...do these? btw i read that from some other smaller forum, so maybe it was less knowledgable people but who knows...

xxx's will be a consideration IF they will come as a complete set.

as for the horns and all that, i believe i would need a eq and all that just to get them to sound the way they are suppose to no? from my experience most componant speakers sound acceptable right outta the box.

supa_c
12-21-2004, 09:28 PM
Yes, DLS makes the Iridum's
The tweeters went loud
The midbass is better than CDT EF's
As for the subs....i read that crown vics have more room
But i like caprices more, esp 9c1's
P.S
For horns you need to get an active crossover or eq (ID 31band EQ), tweak them...alot of time and money

IgnoreMe
12-21-2004, 09:30 PM
Yes, DLS makes the Iridum's
The tweeters went loud
The midbass is better than CDT EF's
As for the subs....i read that crown vics have more room
But i like caprices more, esp 9c1's
that sounds good. have you ever used the RE set of comps before? if so how would they compare? thanks for the suggestions, i think its basically down to the iridiums and the xxx from RE. someone who has the re comps heard the xxx's and he said the output was like 3x what the re put out, so seems like those arent bad either.

edit: alright, so horns are outta the question for sure. i like crown victorias BUT i really only like the new ones, the last style i didnt dig.

Acidburn
12-21-2004, 09:45 PM
Caprice > Crown Vic, without question
if you take the spare out and do some interesting wood work, i think you will be able to get the 4 SXs in there

supa_c
12-21-2004, 09:50 PM
that sounds good. have you ever used the RE set of comps before? if so how would they compare? thanks for the suggestions, i think its basically down to the iridiums and the xxx from RE. someone who has the re comps heard the xxx's and he said the output was like 3x what the re put out, so seems like those arent bad either.
i like crown victorias BUT i really only like the new ones, the last style i didnt dig.I havent heard the RE RE components.
The XXX mids will kill the Iridiums in output but not sound reproduction.
There is a reason they have won an award ;)
The new crown vics are weak, a V6 Dodge Stratus police edtion has more power than the police version crown vic with a V8
I think there all ugly
Acidburn is correct: Caprice> Crown Vic

IgnoreMe
12-21-2004, 10:03 PM
well i am content with the RE RE sound so im assuming the xxx will be just as nice as those but lots louder. thats what i need. 4 15's is gonna be loud as hell but maybe its possible that the new subs that are made by RE might need less airspace. only time will tell. i want this bastard to be loud as hell lol. btw i upset myself today. i found a 94 impala ss on sale for a little over 7g's...sold in the first day it was listed in autotrader tho :(

supa_c
12-21-2004, 10:04 PM
9c1 is the same car, actually...there beefier than the impalas

IgnoreMe
12-21-2004, 10:09 PM
9c1 is the same car, actually...there beefier than the impalas
true but im kinda turned off towards the old police cars :( . i just dont feel i can trust them. besides i dont dig the vinyl back seats and the doors only opening from the outside and all that

supa_c
12-21-2004, 10:14 PM
Thats why you get the detective or fire cheif ones

IgnoreMe
12-21-2004, 10:57 PM
Thats why you get the detective or fire cheif ones
hmm that seems feasible...how would i be able to tell the difference? just ask or just look for one thats different than the rest right?

Sleeklsc
12-21-2004, 11:08 PM
i fit 4 12's in a straight sealed box in the back of my 91 bubble...that **** wanged!
the box was rather large(obviously) and fit in the trunk w/o a prob, just barely though:)

i now own a 98 marquis and would take that over a strat any day...the new pi's have 240hp , what to the strats have?? the vics's are much bigger though and im sure would outhandle a pos dodge anyday...nothin like a big rwd v8...


p.s. i drive 3 newer dodges at work and imo they are poorly built for the most part....though every builder has its cheaper models, dodge/ chrysler has the worst..

Sleeklsc
12-21-2004, 11:18 PM
94-96 b- bodies(9c1-lt1) have comman probs such as tranny/opti/bolts stuck in head/just to name a few...
im a fan of the 93 though.
.dont have any major probs like the 94-96 do...
dont have the fender skirts
cheaper to repair
ect..
the 350 tbi comes with 190-200hp and some crazy tourqe!---easily, cheaply modifiable...
305 eeeee, it gets the job done i guess..gets same mpg as the 350...

IgnoreMe
12-21-2004, 11:24 PM
cool so we got an experienced impala/caprice owner here. well i was thinkin this. 4 15" sx's firing up. 2x2 basically. you think that could work? another question about the caprices...so what i should look for is an ex detective 93 caprice with the lt1 engine or a 93 impala? both i believe are equpped with the more powerful lt1 right?

Sleeklsc
12-21-2004, 11:43 PM
impalas--94-96 5.7 350 lt1 v8 260hp
caprice w/ rear fender skirts--91 and 92 305--170(?)hp 350--190-200hp tons of tourqe
93 caprice...no fender skirts.same engines as ^^
94-96 caprices...4.3l v8 standard 200hp -- avalible 5.7 lt1 with towing(non 9c1 lt1)civilian..most squads are 9c1- lt1's though

IgnoreMe
12-21-2004, 11:47 PM
i thought i read somewhere that the lt1 was no available in the 91-93 caprices and you had to get an impala inorder to get that engine. is that incorrect?

Sleeklsc
12-21-2004, 11:48 PM
http://www.impalassforum.com/

www.4adrive.com

http://www.impalaclub.com/naisso/forum2002/

have fun searching:)

Sleeklsc
12-21-2004, 11:52 PM
the lt1's came in all 94-96 impala's
94-96 caps came w/ either a 4.3 v8 or the lt1 wich primarily came with the towing package(non squad)..squads were avalible with both motors as well..larger citys generaly used the 4.3's...while the hp mostly used lt1's..i think
91-93 caps came with the 305 tbi or the 350 tbi..

IgnoreMe
12-21-2004, 11:55 PM
thanks for the links and info!

Sleeklsc
12-21-2004, 11:57 PM
i try:)

and good luck

lotas
12-22-2004, 01:27 AM
how much are xxx comps?

IgnoreMe
12-22-2004, 02:13 AM
right now i believe they only have the mids available. no tweeters and no crossovers. they are like 269 iirc for a pair of mids then you gotta find tweeters you want and you need to get active crossovers or find someone that can build you passive ones.

supa_c
12-22-2004, 02:58 AM
sbcaprice, the Strats were 260 if i real correctly
1 cool thing about the 9c1's is A/C shut off at full throttle
That way you get all the HP from the engine when you floor it:)

Sleeklsc
12-22-2004, 03:31 AM
thats pretty impresive! 260 in s strat wow! but its still a dodge:)
i'd take a 9c1 or a new cv lx sport with the new pi heads over that anyday....but hey who wouldnt:)

supa_c
12-22-2004, 03:57 AM
Its FWD.
Pretty much useless :meh: