PDA

View Full Version : Best mid-bass 6.5"



Intercooler
11-12-2004, 02:05 AM
What owns the title?

UndercoverPunk
11-12-2004, 03:38 AM
There is no "best" it's all too subjective.

Intercooler
11-12-2004, 07:56 AM
I was thinking one would have more travel or thump. As in acts more like a sub.

3.5Max6spd
11-12-2004, 10:36 AM
subs are subs for a reason.....a midbass acts nothing like a sub, its meant to produce midbass frequencies-

whats your point? you get a boner if one has a larger surround w/ more xmax than another? Is that what "who owns the title?" mean to you?

Because I see a good mid as one thats accurate playing its designated frequencies.....

req
11-12-2004, 10:42 AM
maybe the speaker that can accuratly play the highest range of frequency with the lowest distortion, least power requirement and, highest efficency\loudness.

that would be my oppinion of one amazing 6.5 :fyi:

Expy2000
11-12-2004, 03:53 PM
Lot of people swear by the Koda, frankly I want to hear the XXX comps..

req
11-12-2004, 04:02 PM
x2 ^^^

diesel_kid
11-12-2004, 04:46 PM
Mabye something by Seas, the Excel or Lotus line..

snb778
11-12-2004, 05:08 PM
Adire audio Koda 6.1's or the Alpine type r's 6.5 are really good. Sharp sound to if your a fan of that.

squeak9798
11-12-2004, 05:56 PM
I was thinking one would have more travel or thump. As in acts more like a sub.

Yeah, then you aren't looking for the "best", you are looking for the "loudest"....completely different. Just because one's the loudest, doesn't mean it is the most accurate.


The Adire Extremis is probably the 6.5" with the most throw, and that can still act like a midbass (which is completely different than a sub).

But as for "best", the Scanspeak Revelator and DLS Iridiums are probably up there.

negativezeroz
11-12-2004, 07:05 PM
IMO .....Infinity Kappa Perfect 6.1 but thats just me everyones ears are different so your opinion will be different

JimJ
11-12-2004, 07:28 PM
extremis 6's...beastly little things.

`pr0digy
11-12-2004, 11:16 PM
I haven't heard a extremis 6, but they look amazing... Anyone have them that's willing to write up a quick review ?

Norcalracer283
11-13-2004, 04:20 AM
I would take a koda 6 over an extremis.....

squeak9798
11-13-2004, 05:19 AM
I would take a koda 6 over an extremis.....

And you base that off of.............

supa_c
11-13-2004, 05:35 AM
I would take the Koda 6 over the Extremis 6 too.
Stupid 8 ohm :censored:
The Alpine F1 Status 6" mid is very nice, it took high marks in testing

squeak9798
11-14-2004, 02:05 PM
I would take the Koda 6 over the Extremis 6 too.
Stupid 8 ohm :censored:

Wussy :p: Just use a slightly bigger amp.



The Alpine F1 Status 6" mid is very nice, it took high marks in testing

*cough* Scanspeak Rev's *cough*

supa_c
11-14-2004, 06:57 PM
200Wx4 @4
i think thats enough power.
Good thind about the Extremis is its only $80.

Tedro
11-15-2004, 06:13 PM
*cough* Scanspeak Rev's *cough*

details please

squeak9798
11-15-2004, 06:21 PM
details please

The Alpine F#1 Status speakers are slightly modified Scanspeak Revelators.

http://www.d-s-t.com/scs/data/18w_4531g00a.htm

The car version (Alpine's) has a slightly higher Qtc and a treated cone for better whether protection. AFAIK those are the main differences.......

supa_c
11-15-2004, 06:31 PM
19MM x max, nice....
Know the price(s) ?

squeak9798
11-15-2004, 06:32 PM
19MM x max, nice....

ROFL........Goober, 38mm is the VC diameter.....xmax is 6.5mm



Know the price(s) ?

$225 each for the 7"

supa_c
11-15-2004, 06:34 PM
whoops, he he he:tomatofa:
$225, i'll take 2 Extremis' thanks

Tedro
11-15-2004, 07:13 PM
$225 each for the 7"

iirc, CA&E mag said when they where testing the F1 set that the mid was acually smaller than 6-1/2, More like 5-1/4 in size with a mounting plate.

Any word on the tweeter and the crossover? Be interested to build my own F1 set cheaper than you can buy it from alpine.

supa_c
11-15-2004, 07:17 PM
i think it was 5 3/8" or something
i have that issue, the Alpines were the best

squeak9798
11-16-2004, 12:43 AM
Crossover's are all Alpine. Can't buy those anywhere but with the F#1 status set. Active xover is the way to go if you chose to go with the Revs.

And you can check out the pricing at www.madisound.com and www.speakercity.com. The tweets are there, as well as all sizes of mids. Here is Scanspeaks homepage: http://www.d-s-t.com/scs/index.htm.

Tedro
11-16-2004, 07:31 PM
Crossover's are all Alpine. Can't buy those anywhere but with the F#1 status set. Active xover is the way to go if you chose to go with the Revs.

And you can check out the pricing at www.madisound.com and www.speakercity.com. The tweets are there, as well as all sizes of mids. Here is Scanspeaks homepage: http://www.d-s-t.com/scs/index.htm.


but what tweeter? Rev's?

snb778
11-17-2004, 12:53 AM
I recently heard the new top of the line alpines 6.5 at Tweeter car audio....i dunno what they were, but they were like over 1,000 for the components

joms
03-11-2005, 07:10 AM
ive heard a lot of good feedbacks on the scan revs 7" but the main thing that turned me down is that it had to have an enclosure of .7cu to make it perform superbly. That wouldnt just be good for me as my only option is to install an IB midbass on my 2004 ford escape.

would anyone know if the alpine counterpart of the revs are made for IB? or do they also need to be enclosed?

zebo
03-11-2005, 10:25 AM
If you are looking for sheer output you should look into some xxx mids.

squeak9798
03-11-2005, 02:41 PM
would anyone know if the alpine counterpart of the revs are made for IB? or do they also need to be enclosed?

AFAIK, the main differences between the Rev's and the Alpine F#1 status mids is that Alpine bumped the Qts slightly to allow them to perform better IB (what you were lookin' for), and they used a proprietary coating on the cone to allow them to resist the elements better (though I've never used them, from what I hear the Rev's don't really handle a car enviornment too well).

However, for the price difference between the Rev's and the Alpine F#1's, I almost think it would be more beneficial to figure out a way to build an enclosure for the Rev's.....LOL.

joms
03-11-2005, 06:40 PM
has anyone been able to build an enclosure for the SS 7" on a ford escape? can you look at my doors here and see if its possible

www.joms.net/caraudio

squeak9798
03-11-2005, 06:43 PM
Couldn't tell ya off hand. Not really any way to tell just by looking at the doorpanel....you'd need to pull off the panel and measure how much airspace you have within the door itself.

BTW, if that's your current setup, 'tis very very nice :thumbupw:

paikiah
03-11-2005, 08:00 PM
In my home audio speaker, I have the scanspeak revelator tweet, mid and mid bass on it (sonus faber cremona). I like it.

In my car audio, I used to have dyn 160GT midrange. Then I got the XXX 6.5". THe latter stays in the car. Using seas tweet, so the dyn 240GT set is now collecting dust.

squeak9798
03-11-2005, 08:01 PM
You should toss those Rev mids in your car real quick and do a nice little comparo ;)

paikiah
03-11-2005, 08:31 PM
lol~

no thank you, I like the revelators to stay where they are. Also, I'm a passive xo guy, remember? It'd be a drag to do it all over again for a speaker which I know won't stay in the car for a long time. :)

But yeah, the revelators do sound really good...

BUT!!...

if I had more money, I wouldn't hesitate to try some higher end Skanning midbass drivers. I heard one in action in a junky car some time ago and it was fantastic. Price is also more than double of the rev's though.

I wouldn't buy the rainbow reference, think the skanning's were good enough. Rainbow's aren't worth the 6G.

bonesninja
03-11-2005, 08:43 PM
just get 2 parthenon's and tell all your dumb *** friends that they're the new mid-bass drivers that also can play low notes.

rideac1
03-14-2005, 12:43 PM
Any MBQuart line sound flippin good

paikiah
03-14-2005, 07:58 PM
Many people will tell you otherwise. I didn't like the DSD line. Haven't tried R. Tried the Q. For that money, there are better.

GreenMachine70
03-19-2005, 01:46 AM
Kodas are great fot the money but i'm fond of Dyneaudio, rainbow,andre xxx's :toast:

BigProof
05-19-2005, 12:10 PM
subs are subs for a reason.....a midbass acts nothing like a sub, its meant to produce midbass frequencies-

whats your point? you get a boner if one has a larger surround w/ more xmax than another? Is that what "who owns the title?" mean to you?

Because I see a good mid as one thats accurate playing its designated frequencies.....

dude's an *******!!!!

and what's worse he's wrong!!! a midbass speaker works the same as a sub just on a smaller scale.

what an ***!!

chubby
05-19-2005, 12:34 PM
HAHAHAHAHA


^^^uh, no.

oh, and way to bring up a 3 month old thread

UndercoverPunk
05-19-2005, 12:41 PM
2 MONTH OLD THREAD...

Congratulations...

Raven
05-20-2005, 12:18 AM
Something I didn't read the last time around... Dual Parthenon's for midbass. Well, IIRC they play accurately up to 200 hz. I would love to hear that.

3.5Max6spd
05-20-2005, 11:50 AM
dude's an *******!!!!

and what's worse he's wrong!!! a midbass speaker works the same as a sub just on a smaller scale.

what an ***!!
:ohsnap:
typical internet ****** , so tuff with the name calling....you dont have to agree with me :laugh:

BTW if you were not such a tool and read carefully my response in this OLD *** thread was to...

I was thinking one would have more travel or thump. As in acts more like a sub.

Where some people have carefully used a subwoofer to play midbass frequencies, using a driver that has been designed as a 'MIDBASS' to play 20-30hz sub frequencies is not appropriate. That being said my comment was directed at the fact that the size of the surround, size of magnet, or the drivers xmax are not factors that make an accurate midbass. There are a myriad of drivers out there that are less than impressive in that dept and are great performers.

scrappy
05-20-2005, 04:03 PM
Many people will tell you otherwise. I didn't like the DSD line. Haven't tried R. Tried the Q. For that money, there are better.
Okay why? The DSD line is discus correct my MB dealer doesnt even stock those. The r is reference and they seem to be the bottom line that is stocked by dealers. Then there is P premium and the Q q form line. Im just curious why you didnt like them. Im looking for new speakers so just asking