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dakrazyman
11-03-2004, 04:50 PM
why is it that when you are in a car and the subs are hitting that you cant breath on some bass notes.sometimes ill listen to some music in my romm and on some of the notes of the bass i can barely breath,its freaking weird.

Strecker25
11-03-2004, 05:50 PM
because its too loud. I would advise to turn it down.


on the technical note i dont know, its the sound pressure overtaking you i would imagine.

vosschs
11-03-2004, 05:54 PM
thats a sign of sucess

HeavyChevy
11-03-2004, 06:07 PM
why is it that when you are in a car and the subs are hitting that you cant breath on some bass notes.sometimes ill listen to some music in my romm and on some of the notes of the bass i can barely breath,its freaking weird.

Tremendous success at that. Congratulations you have reached the promise land.

packerfan
11-03-2004, 06:10 PM
Wow, You want a cookie?

phrozen5100
11-03-2004, 07:08 PM
HMMMM....sounds like those certain frequencies are inducing asthma attacks in you! Better go get checked out by a doctor!

jtomsic
11-03-2004, 07:11 PM
eh...success...i can feel it in my chest sometimes...i like the feeling.

pro-rabbit
11-03-2004, 07:18 PM
hmm...hard breathing..I have sat in the some of the worlds loudest cars(from DB Drag and Usaci) and never really had that(except for a few times, but those were extreme cars and the one put me to sleep in less then 2 seconds)..so I don't know what to tell you on that..

g30ffr3y
11-03-2004, 07:19 PM
my next door neighbor had a setup like
that in his old grand am... i think he was
running 3 10"s.... it was ridiculous...

awesome!!!

sumone
11-04-2004, 11:46 AM
let's not forget...bass can collapse your lungs and KILL you...if you can't withstand it...

ridge
11-04-2004, 11:55 AM
There has to be a more scientific explanation for this effect though.

My guess is the amount of air the driver(s) is/are moving changes the pressure in the cabin of the car enough to affect the normal intake of air...

Or something...

tRiGgEr
11-04-2004, 12:05 PM
Sound "PRESSURE" level.

Its the pressure constricting air movement in your lungs and trachea.

Either A.) Work out more B.) Turn it down

itstodd
11-04-2004, 02:10 PM
Sound "PRESSURE" level.

Its the pressure constricting air movement in your lungs and trachea.

Either A.) Work out more B.) Turn it down


Or C.) All of the above!

IgnoreMe
11-04-2004, 02:15 PM
just keep increasing the volume till your eyes pop

ANeonRider
11-04-2004, 02:52 PM
If you can't breathe, your getting real close to a collapsed lung or two.

XDrkmanX
11-04-2004, 03:37 PM
Do you have your mouth around the port?

IgnoreMe
11-04-2004, 04:04 PM
ive only been in one car like that and it had 3 12w7's

desertheat
11-04-2004, 09:23 PM
This post made me smile :) That feeling usually means you are making some serious bass in the 40hz or lower region. I remember two 18's I had tuned to 35hz with about 2Krms powering them and when a test tone hit the world went into a solid blurr, was very hard to breath and you could not clench your teeth together or they hurt :) Man that was a neat setup!

jtomsic
11-04-2004, 09:53 PM
my subs can make my teeth click sometimes on songs with good bass lines, ive had people that sit in my back seat tell me that their back went numb from the vibration, that they are have a hard time breathing when the bass is hitting, all kinds of wild stuff....makes me feel like ive done something right lol.

mbacis
11-05-2004, 03:45 PM
It's called pneumothorax. Check out this article...


http://www.rense.com/general57/coill.htm

bonesninja
11-05-2004, 05:50 PM
SWEET---you know your doing something right when you collapse your best friends lungs while bangin down the street!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OLD_SCHOOL
11-05-2004, 06:05 PM
It's called pneumothorax. Check out this article...


http://www.rense.com/general57/coill.htm


that has to be the most retarded website i have ever seen, guess they forgot the number 1 reason for tension pneumo is trauma... what a joke.... never ever have i seen smoking casue TN ... unless your smoking because your on fire

a chest tube is inserted to reomve blood from the same area or some Mds will perform a neddle TCS

for the real answer

http://www.nursewise.com/courses/chestubes_hour.htm

bonesninja
11-05-2004, 07:46 PM
my bass is so loud i think i should get a tube permently inserted into my chest so i can just relieve the air myself while i'm beatin down the block.

mastershake
11-22-2004, 03:11 AM
im an aerospace engineer major right now at ut. i dont know a whole lot about speakers but i can explain whats happening. its like when a bomb goes off, the most dangerous thing about bombs is the sound waves they create. they both share lowfrequency sound which when it hits the body it creates an equal echoing force on the inside of the body which in the case of the bomb is so powerfulit will liquify the innards but make no impact onthe out side. the speakers are creating pressure on ur lungs cause they are pretty much hollow. if u try to force them open u could actully rip ur lung. or if the strength over comes ur lungs strength it will implode. both are bad.as much as we all love big bass..people do die from it

IgnoreMe
11-22-2004, 01:44 PM
im an aerospace engineer major right now at ut. i dont know a whole lot about speakers but i can explain whats happening. its like when a bomb goes off, the most dangerous thing about bombs is the sound waves they create. they both share lowfrequency sound which when it hits the body it creates an equal echoing force on the inside of the body which in the case of the bomb is so powerfulit will liquify the innards but make no impact onthe out side. the speakers are creating pressure on ur lungs cause they are pretty much hollow. if u try to force them open u could actully rip ur lung. or if the strength over comes ur lungs strength it will implode. both are bad.as much as we all love big bass..people do die from it
actually i think the most dangerous thing bout a bomb is standing next to it...

tRiGgEr
11-22-2004, 01:47 PM
people do die from it

Hmmm can you prove that some one died from there bass???

jtomsic
11-22-2004, 04:00 PM
i believe someone from this site actually lost sight in one eye from bass.... if it was loud enough like 160dB++ id believe u could die.

mdma
11-23-2004, 02:42 AM
The system may also have applications in crowd control. Powerful, low-frequency sound can cause disorientation and nausea. In the 1960s, the US tried unsuccessfully to use low-frequency sound from helicopters to disable enemy soldiers in the Vietnamese jungle. But the sound sources needed were so intense that they almost shook the aircraft apart, and most of the sound was absorbed by those nearest to the loudspeakers. According to Norris, acoustical heterodyning could pinpoint an individual up to 200 or 300 metres away by positioning the interference zone correctly.

New Scientist; Sept. 7, 1996; "Perfect Sound from Thin Air"

Termlab
11-23-2004, 02:52 AM
i believe someone from this site actually lost sight in one eye from bass.... if it was loud enough like 160dB++ id believe u could die.




i dont believe that..... i've sat in 160 + cars while they were burping just to see what it was like (this was on TL sensors) and i didnt have any problems. it was hard to breathe but nothing painful or that i couldnt handle.





i think you are all reading into this to much. this is my theory on the subject...

ever stuck your head out the window of a car going 55 + mph?? well its hard to breathe because the air is rushing past you so fast you cant take it in. its not that its forceful, its just to fast.

same thing with a subwoofer. its pulsating so fast/moving air so fast at certain volumes you just cant inhale.

yes i did compare a moving car to a subwoofer ;) and its logical to think about it that way. atleast i think so.

pentaX
11-23-2004, 03:24 AM
I believe there is a point when sonic wavelengths could kill you, but I dont think there is a documented instance.

You would go deaf and become a veggie before you would just drop dead, imo.

Termlab
11-23-2004, 03:30 AM
I believe there is a point when sonic wavelengths could kill you, but I dont think there is a documented instance.

You would go deaf and become a veggie before you would just drop dead, imo.


if it could kill you i'm pretty sure it would take atleast 165 + DB on a stiff sensor to do it. even then i'd be skeptical. 170 i would think could kill you.

hoss
11-23-2004, 03:47 AM
There has to be a more scientific explanation for this effect though.

My guess is the amount of air the driver(s) is/are moving changes the pressure in the cabin of the car enough to affect the normal intake of air...

Or something...
sort of... you said the magic word... PRESSURE

as in sound pressure level. enough SPL(pressure) and it will statr to push on you hard. kind of like undergoing atmospheric pressure underwater, try to go 5 feet underwater and breath through a hose ;) , its not because of instinct, it is because of water pressure. and SPL works the same way

i say congrats if your car does that, because that is **** loud. and on that note... use it resplonsibly :thumb:

hoss
11-23-2004, 03:55 AM
i posted, then realized this is 3 pages long, but...


Hmmm can you prove that some one died from there bass???
there are documented cases of people dyeing from HIGH SPL systems... although they can be dismissed as fluke...

like everything in life, there are about 8 billion variables. much like the guy on this site who lost his vision in one eye due to a stereo. if i remember correctly he had been having sinus issues, and the pressure in his sinus's combined with the high pressure created by a car stereo caused severe pressure in his sinus cavities which pinched a nerve leading to his eye. and iirc also, this was temporary, while it was a LONG process of getting his vision back it did eventually come back, or it is in the process of coming back.

much like people dyeing due to high SPL systems, there have be other factors involved, namely the persons resonant frequency. for example, 160Db can theoretically stop the heart... but this happens at different freq's for different people. likewise for other effects... everyone is different, and everyone is affected differently. so yes it is possible, it is possible for a low amount of pressure to affect someone, it is all dependent on the person and the circumstances :)

ighettoboyi
11-24-2004, 06:44 PM
this thread is so funny i'm actually laughing out loud at the thought of dying from sounds above 160db. looks like i need to step it up a couple notches on my bass

pwnt by pat
11-24-2004, 07:36 PM
my bass is so loud i think i should get a tube permently inserted into my chest so i can just relieve the air myself while i'm beatin down the block.

You mean port your chest? Just make sure you tune it the same as your box.... To get some of the variables, you will have to fill your body with some liquid and measure it exactly to get the precise amoust of liters. Just make sure I'm in your will.