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pwnt by pat
10-31-2004, 10:13 PM
I'm looking to upgrade my cd player to something a little nicer. Right now I have the AIWA $95 unit from Best Buy 'cause I needed something. It works well but I'm selling it as it only has one rca.

I'm liking the Clarion DXZ745MP. I like it for it's plain jane looks and nice set of features. Basicly, I want to be able to turn my highs and lows up and turn my mids down while not having a goofy stupid glowy screen and clunky interface. What else is in this price region that I should concider? I'd like to buy in the next day or two. Oh, and I prefer solid black units as it matches my car's interior.

Expy2000
11-01-2004, 01:59 AM
If you are brining your own amps, I would say the Alpine 7995. Only solid black I can think of is the Nak. 400..

JimJ
11-01-2004, 02:54 AM
last year's Alpine line was black...

pwnt by pat
11-01-2004, 12:08 PM
I will have my own amps for comps and subs. I'll be using the amp's crossover but I don't have an external EQ. I could get one if I need to. I'll look into the Alpine 7995 now. How would I go about getting a black one (this is before looking - I noticed before they are almost all silver)?

edit: 350 at the cheapest places on froogle is way out of my league.... I'm looking at a max, 275.

pwnt by pat
11-01-2004, 12:31 PM
Hows the alpine 9830 or kenwood KDC-X679?

JoseMCeee
11-01-2004, 02:55 PM
7995 is under 250?????

pavengmike6
11-01-2004, 04:00 PM
Eclipse makes a deck under 250. Well not with tax. It has a lot of great stuff, and comes with a anti theft guard. (they will replace it if stolen) High volt pre-outs, built in x-over, mp3/cdrw, 3 sets of RCA's. I LOVE MINE

ShakinSupra
11-01-2004, 04:35 PM
I'd look at the Nak CD-400, although I've heard of people having problems with Nakamichi. I have the CD-45z, which I think was replaced by the CD-400, I love it, I've never had any problems, it has amazing SQ, and is really simple to use and looks very stock, 3 4v outputs and AUX input, but it has no MP3 or built in crossovers or sub level control, just a three band EQ to adjust the sound.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3293&item=5728496356&rd=1

Expy2000
11-01-2004, 04:44 PM
Well I bought my 7995 on Ebay for $230. Course I looked for weeks and weeks.

pwnt by pat
11-01-2004, 06:45 PM
The cd-400 looks awesome but without mp3, it's practically useless to me. I am really liking that kenwood the more I look at it. Are there any opinions on it?

I don't have weeks and weeks to look, a couple of days at the most.

There's a great deal on a Eclipse 3434 on ebay for 220+15 shipping. Should I jump on that?

Breogan24
11-01-2004, 08:06 PM
I sent u PM

Shyne151
11-01-2004, 08:08 PM
If you are brining your own amps, I would say the Alpine 7995. Only solid black I can think of is the Nak. 400..


Word... I rock the Alpine 7995. It is a **** nice headunit. Don't know if you will find it for under $250 though, I bought mine used off a friend for $165 though :)

pwnt by pat
11-01-2004, 09:49 PM
Okay, Breogan24 gave an awesome offer and it's down to the eclipse 3434 or the Kenwood Excelon KDC-X679

(leaving out unimportant stuff to me)

Kenwood (270 new):
» multicolor dot-matrix display
» CR-2 tuner (dunno what this is exactly, radio?)
» plays CDs, CD-Rs, and CD-RWs
» plays MP3 and WMA files
» System Q EX Sound Control
» 3-band parametric equalizer
» System E's+ crossover system
» source tone memory
» dual zone audio control
» 5-volt front, rear, and subwoofer preamp outputs
» Amplifier Management System (AMS) controls
» optional auxiliary input
» CD frequency response 10-20,000 Hz
» CD signal-to-noise ratio 110 dB
» FM sensitivity 9.3 dBf
» warranty: 2 years
» free wire harness
» free mounting kit (apparently)
» free shipping



Eclipse (235 - used):
» CD, CD-R/RW, and MP3.
» Advanced FM and AM digital tuner section
» Source volume control (SVC) for uniform system volume setting from any program source
» NOB smart rotary encoder control
» Front/Rear/Non-fader preamplifier RCA output terminal pairs
» Flexible bass and treble controls
» Non-fader level phase control
» Guide tones to confirm operation
» 2.7v front/rear/sub preout


I would love to order tomorrow!

JLCivic
11-01-2004, 10:28 PM
Eclipse makes a deck under 250. Well not with tax. It has a lot of great stuff, and comes with a anti theft guard. (they will replace it if stolen) High volt pre-outs, built in x-over, mp3/cdrw, 3 sets of RCA's. I LOVE MINE
Eclipse makes a few decks under $250. I believe they start at $179, then $199, then $249). I think Eclipse would be a good choice.

pwnt by pat
11-01-2004, 11:09 PM
How's the sq between the 2.7v and 5v of the Eclipse and Kenwood, respectivly?

audiofanaticz
11-03-2004, 06:38 AM
Eclipse makes a deck under 250. Well not with tax. It has a lot of great stuff, and comes with a anti theft guard. (they will replace it if stolen) High volt pre-outs, built in x-over, mp3/cdrw, 3 sets of RCA's. I LOVE MINE


Thats a loud of bull! I ran so many eclipse decks because there nice. All the eclipse decks have the ESN theft on them, except their cheapest model I believe.

I heard so many rumors about the ESN. Some people say its a built in gps tracking system, that if your deck gets stolen you call eclipse and they will beguin a trace on it next time it powers up.

I also heard that eclipse will replace it if stolen.

But none of these are true. Goto their site and see where it says this!!! It seems audio dealers like to make these up so they can sell you a 400 buck cd player.

ESN is Eclipse Security Network, and what it does is enables you to use a personalized code or cd that must be inserted into the deck the next time you use it if the power has been disconnected. If the wrong code, or cd is entered too many times it will lock the cd player up, so it will have to be sent to eclipse so they can unlock it. The decks aint even detachable faced.
But if I where to steal a deck and it was locked out I sure wouldnt send it to eclipse so I could be caught.
http://www.eclipse-web.com.au/

JLCivic
11-03-2004, 07:41 AM
Thats a loud of bull! I ran so many eclipse decks because there nice. All the eclipse decks have the ESN theft on them, except their cheapest model I believe.

I heard so many rumors about the ESN. Some people say its a built in gps tracking system, that if your deck gets stolen you call eclipse and they will beguin a trace on it next time it powers up.

I also heard that eclipse will replace it if stolen.

But none of these are true. Goto their site and see where it says this!!! It seems audio dealers like to make these up so they can sell you a 400 buck cd player.

ESN is Eclipse Security Network, and what it does is enables you to use a personalized code or cd that must be inserted into the deck the next time you use it if the power has been disconnected. If the wrong code, or cd is entered too many times it will lock the cd player up, so it will have to be sent to eclipse so they can unlock it. The decks aint even detachable faced.
But if I where to steal a deck and it was locked out I sure wouldnt send it to eclipse so I could be caught.
http://www.eclipse-web.com.au/


Eclipse will replace the deck if stolen within the first year of ownership. That has been their policy since ESN was first used in their decks 10 years ago. IF the deck is stolen, you have to complete an esn form, and provide a copy of a police report. I don't know how you can say that is not true. The deck does NOT have gps in it.

Here is a quote from their website as well, "Any ECLIPSE mobile entertainment system is an investment. It’s protected with ECLIPSE Security Network (ESN), an effective theft-deterrent feature which totally disables a head unit until a Key Disc recognized by the head unit is inserted. ESN is so secure that ECLIPSE guarantees ESN protected products against theft for a full year."


Also, if the deck is locked up, Eclipse can give you the code over the phone so you can unlock it as long as you are the rightful owner of the deck and it has been registered with Eclipse in your name.

How you could have run so many eclipse decks and not know about the 1 year replacement if stolen surprises me. It has been common knowledge, imo, for many years.

6spdcoupe
11-08-2004, 10:06 AM
Thats a loud of bull! I ran so many eclipse decks because there nice. All the eclipse decks have the ESN theft on them, except their cheapest model I believe.

I heard so many rumors about the ESN. Some people say its a built in gps tracking system, that if your deck gets stolen you call eclipse and they will beguin a trace on it next time it powers up.

I also heard that eclipse will replace it if stolen.

But none of these are true. Goto their site and see where it says this!!! It seems audio dealers like to make these up so they can sell you a 400 buck cd player.

ESN is Eclipse Security Network, and what it does is enables you to use a personalized code or cd that must be inserted into the deck the next time you use it if the power has been disconnected. If the wrong code, or cd is entered too many times it will lock the cd player up, so it will have to be sent to eclipse so they can unlock it. The decks aint even detachable faced.
But if I where to steal a deck and it was locked out I sure wouldnt send it to eclipse so I could be caught.
http://www.eclipse-web.com.au/


Youve clearly and obviously been misinformed.

Like posted above there is no GPS tracking.

They WILL replace the HU within the first year of ownership provided you have a valid sales receipt from an Authroized dealer, as well as a legit police report. Ebay/online sales do not apply.

They back ALL of their products with a three year warranty, provided it was dealer sold AND installed, other wise dealer sold and self installed...One year of warranty. Again ebay/online sales do not apply AT ALL.

If someone steals your HU and tries to take it to a dealer to have it "recoded" the dealer will contact Eclipse. Eclipse will then inform the dealer it is a stolen unit and the authorities will be contacted. With these FACTs in mind that is why they dont waste time/parts/space etc to make their HUs detachable.

To the original posted...the 3434 will typically be $299 from your dealer. The 3424 should be $249. Keep some piece of mind and buy it locally to have the security coverage as well as a warranty rather than Fleabaying it....

--Don

3.5Max6spd
11-08-2004, 02:50 PM
Thats a loud of bull! I ran so many eclipse decks because there nice. All the eclipse decks have the ESN theft on them, except their cheapest model I believe.

I heard so many rumors about the ESN. Some people say its a built in gps tracking system, that if your deck gets stolen you call eclipse and they will beguin a trace on it next time it powers up.

I also heard that eclipse will replace it if stolen.

But none of these are true. Goto their site and see where it says this!!! It seems audio dealers like to make these up so they can sell you a 400 buck cd player.

ESN is Eclipse Security Network, and what it does is enables you to use a personalized code or cd that must be inserted into the deck the next time you use it if the power has been disconnected. If the wrong code, or cd is entered too many times it will lock the cd player up, so it will have to be sent to eclipse so they can unlock it. The decks aint even detachable faced.
But if I where to steal a deck and it was locked out I sure wouldnt send it to eclipse so I could be caught.
http://www.eclipse-web.com.au/

Apparently, YOU ARE SO FULL OF SHYT!!!
All Eclipse HU's have a 1 yr free theft-replacement warranty

If you owned any at all, you wouldn't be like 'i heard this, and i heard that...'

bri487
11-08-2004, 08:38 PM
with all that stuff aside, if you own an eclipse you will never buy another deck. they are so user friendly. i bought an alpine 9835 and i hate it. the only way that it comes close to the sound of my eclipse is the fact that i am running an eq. i would strongly reccomend looking into them. find a dealer and at least play with one and see if you like the way it functions.

pwnt by pat
11-10-2004, 03:27 PM
REALLY concidering the Nakamichi CD-400 now. The plain looks and (apparently) great quality are drawing me to it. I no longer have the need for the mp3. Any final input before I buy it? I got my own amps too.

3.5Max6spd
11-10-2004, 03:56 PM
REALLY concidering the Nakamichi CD-400 now. The plain looks and (apparently) great quality are drawing me to it. I no longer have the need for the mp3. Any final input before I buy it? I got my own amps too.

the Naks are nice and simple, my only dislike is that the face/buttons dont wear well with everyday use.....in a couple of months the deck looks like its 10yrs old

JLCivic
11-10-2004, 04:56 PM
REALLY concidering the Nakamichi CD-400 now. The plain looks and (apparently) great quality are drawing me to it. I no longer have the need for the mp3. Any final input before I buy it? I got my own amps too.

I have not heard a Nak, but I would love to sometime. That being said, I have been on the forums for quite some time, and the number of posts from people screaming of reliability/warranty problems seems to outweigh the number of posts from people who have had no issues. Everybody seems to report that they are great sounding decks.

pwnt by pat
11-10-2004, 06:12 PM
Who ever actually looks at the deck anyway? Just memorize the buttons...

But if the Nak really has reliability problems, what else is in my range. To reiterate, I was thinking kenwood KDC-X679 also. Any experiences?

edit: or Clarion DXZ745MP

Satellite Radio Ready: Yes
RMS Power Output: 18 Watts
Preamp Voltage: 4 volts
Subwoofer Preamp Outputs: Yes
Maximum Power: 53 Watts
Changer Control: Yes
CD Text: Yes
Built-in EQ: Yes
CD-R/CD-RW Compatible: Yes

ighettoboyi
11-11-2004, 02:11 PM
i like my 9830, great features, could have a better display for daytime but at night it's still a **** unit

bri487
11-11-2004, 02:36 PM
i like my 9830, great features, could have a better display for daytime but at night it's still a **** unit
the 9830 is a great deck if you would like to run an eq with it. i have a 9830 and i have an eclipse 3434 and i dont even bother with an eq with my eclipse. i think the eclipse has more of a full sound and the alpine has kind of hollow sounding highs, but strong midrange. but that is just me.

vosschs
11-11-2004, 02:40 PM
http://www.cardiscountstereos.com/catalog%20page.asp?Product+%23=CQC8100U

panasonic CQC8100U

pike04
11-16-2004, 12:45 PM
The Alpine 9831 is agreat unit about 250 on ebay new