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altico
08-31-2004, 01:58 AM
Help.

I've been going back and forth on this for weeks now. I'm pretty sure I'm done narrowing it down to this (b/c of price for performance):

RE comps
or
"CDT EF-61CFi/25 comps with the upgraded 560 xover and 1" silk tweeters"
or
"CDT HD-62 comps also with the upgraded 560 xover and 1" silk tweeters"

I'm looking for decent midbass, strong mids, layed back highs. These seem to get lots of praise across the boards. Help me out. Pros? Cons? Which CDT comp set do you recommend? Want to pair up with an amp for under $150 shipped (like this maybe - http://www.cardomain.com/item/JBLP1802 ). I need to figure this out. Wish I could listen to them in person. Anyway, give me some feedback if you've tried them.

Thanks

-altico

Depression
08-31-2004, 02:43 AM
Tough decision..on this forum the CDT's get alot of props and I have been talked into going with the CDT HD-52's...but it looks like you cannot go wrong either way..The RE subs are the ****..BUT....I know little about RE comps??
Someone will chime in with some solid advice in a minute I am sure!!

EFFENDI
08-31-2004, 02:58 AM
For price/performance you cant go wrong with the CDT's. I am working on getting a setup with the EF-61Cs myself. So if we all get them we can start our own little club, with a secret handshake and everything....j/k...

I dont think those RE comps are even available for purchase yet, anyways the only true deciding factor is your ears...if that isnt possible, then do a search on this forum for the different threads that have already discussed the advantages of each, as i'm sure it has been discussed already at some point..

you also may want to consider the Adire Koda 6.5" midbass, or the Koda component set, this is a very good sounding component set with excellent midbass response. A little more expensive but a solid choice worth looking at.

welcome to the forum!!!

squeak9798
08-31-2004, 10:06 AM
Yes, the RE comps are shipping and many people have them already.

http://forum.sounddomain.com/forum/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=018647

Randy Savage
08-31-2004, 11:41 AM
I should have my set of RE comps any time now...I'll compare them to my CL-61's...

birsling
08-31-2004, 01:15 PM
You can't compare RE comps to the CL series CDTs, but I will tell you that I have a set of Euroframe comps and love them. I have never heard the RE's, but the CDT EFs are great. I have an HD sub and it hits f'ing hard, so I imagine the HD comps are nice too.

Depression
08-31-2004, 03:15 PM
EFFENDI..good call on the KODA 6.1's.If I could afford them and if they would fit I would get those babies instead of the CDT's (maybe)...It's just that I hear the Tweeter is not all that great on those things but this may be do to people thinking it's not good just because ADIRE focuses on woofers???????
Heres the scoop on the Kodas guys
http://www.adireaudio.com/TextPages/KodaComponentsPageFrameText.htm

squeak9798
08-31-2004, 05:16 PM
You can't compare RE comps to the CL series CDTs.........................I have never heard the RE's...................

Says who?!?! You said yourself that you haven't heard them, so you can't say that it's from personal experience. And just because they are cheaper because of the direct price from RE doesn't mean that they couldn't be very nice speakers and compete with speakers at higher price points.

That's half the problem with the internet. People make claims based off of nothing, absolutely nothing.

Randy Savage
08-31-2004, 11:39 PM
You can't compare RE comps to the CL series CDTs, but I will tell you that I have a set of Euroframe comps and love them. I have never heard the RE's, but the CDT EFs are great. I have an HD sub and it hits f'ing hard, so I imagine the HD comps are nice too.

Well...considering that they both sell for about the same price (~150 for either pair), I think it's quite a nice comparison.

Also, I own the 61's...hence me comparing them to my RE's when they arrive ;)

birsling
09-01-2004, 12:49 PM
Guys, I was saying that the REs are probably nicer than the CL series from CDT. I have had CLs, and not been very happy with the result for the money. I am not knocking the REs at all, hence the reason I said you would have to compare them to the more expensive series of CDT!

Puggsley456
09-01-2004, 06:19 PM
Guys, I was saying that the REs are probably nicer than the CL series from CDT. I have had CLs, and not been very happy with the result for the money. I am not knocking the REs at all, hence the reason I said you would have to compare them to the more expensive series of CDT!

What do you think about your Ef-51cv's? Cause thats what I just ordered.

Bavarian3
09-02-2004, 03:19 AM
What do you think about your Ef-51cv's? Cause thats what I just ordered.
ef are supose to be better than CL series

altico
09-02-2004, 07:25 PM
Could anyone tell me from experience the difference in sound between the HD and EF series?

I realize that between the CL & HD & EF series that the HD or EF are "suppose to be" better - based on price and just that's the way CDT portrays it.

Anyone have some pearls of wisdom based on experience though??

Also, still waiting on some more good opinions concerning CDT vs RE comps. Anyone?

Thanks.

altico
09-02-2004, 07:26 PM
By the way, the Koda's would probably be my pick, but a little too pricey for my budget. Thanks for the feedback though.

supa_c
09-02-2004, 07:29 PM
2 koda mids and the 560 with the silks. mmmm nice

birsling
09-03-2004, 06:08 PM
What do you think about your Ef-51cv's? Cause thats what I just ordered.


I like them. Great for the money!

Puggsley456
09-03-2004, 06:52 PM
I like them. Great for the money!
how much power are you giving them? Do they have good midbass for 5.25's?

valant_94gt
09-03-2004, 07:55 PM
I've had the CL6 and now I have the RE 6.5 , RE kicks the CDT's ***, the CL6 that is :P

birsling
09-03-2004, 08:32 PM
how much power are you giving them? Do they have good midbass for 5.25's?

Running them 100 each. The midbass is solid, but defnitely not very low. I am cutting mine at about 70hz I believe. Maybe a little lower, it has been a while since I set it up. Sound quality throughout the spectrum I am running them is very good.

osm0nd
09-06-2004, 06:12 PM
because of problems with the cl-61a set that i had before.. i would definetely go with the re comps... my cl-61a tweeters would always go out when im bumpin rock or something with a lot of highs... its weird.. i would have to turn the volume all the way down n turn it back up to get the tweeters working again.. i posted something about this a long time ago but no one seemed to know what was wrong.. so yeah go with the re series

djdilliodon
09-06-2004, 06:43 PM
because of problems with the cl-61a set that i had before.. i would definetely go with the re comps... my cl-61a tweeters would always go out when im bumpin rock or something with a lot of highs... its weird.. i would have to turn the volume all the way down n turn it back up to get the tweeters working again.. i posted something about this a long time ago but no one seemed to know what was wrong.. so yeah go with the re series

thats mostly caused from 2 much power. when running 100rms plus to cl's or any cdt's u should get the 560 xovers and u will never have that problem. if u look in the speaker section and do a search on sounddomain.com a member there compared the re comps against i believe the alpine x type comps and this test was done wit measuring equipment the works. he talks about the re tweeter bieng kinda harsh ect, check it out

altico
09-07-2004, 03:41 PM
I just ordered the CDT EF-61CFi/25 comp set from a dealer down here in Florida (email: [email protected])... very good to deal with and good prices. I picked up a set of CL-6x's too for the back since it turns out all my speakers are blown (and I like a little "rear fill"). Anyway I'm sure I'll be pleased. I haven't come across any complaints about them, they have the more laid back highs (compared to RE set), and they were a **** good price.

Also, I picked up a used Monitor 1 mk 4.70 amp to run them, for a really good price too. I hope that isn't too much of an overkill for the CDT set at 2x200 bridged, while the CDTs are 160rms. Well, thanks for all the info.

bitwise
09-07-2004, 04:54 PM
what did you pay for the CF-61EFi/25 speakers? I just picked up a set too. paid $175 shipped, I thought that was a pretty good price.

altico
09-07-2004, 05:22 PM
I did about the same... not sure since I ordered the CL-6x set at the same time.

By the way how much power do you have running them?

ngsm13
09-07-2004, 05:23 PM
thats mostly caused from 2 much power. when running 100rms plus to cl's or any cdt's u should get the 560 xovers and u will never have that problem. if u look in the speaker section and do a search on sounddomain.com a member there compared the re comps against i believe the alpine x type comps and this test was done wit measuring equipment the works. he talks about the re tweeter bieng kinda harsh ect, check it out

Yeah, don would be the one who knows what he's talking about when it comes to CDT. He was very helpful, and i talked with him extensively on the phone about which CDT's were the best and how much i was gonna spend. Hit him up sometime if you want more insight on them...and... i just ordered the cdt ef61cfi/25 as well...used to use Diamond Hex s600s. peace

NG

Puggsley456
09-07-2004, 09:51 PM
thats mostly caused from 2 much power. when running 100rms plus to cl's or any cdt's u should get the 560 xovers and u will never have that problem. if u look in the speaker section and do a search on sounddomain.com a member there compared the re comps against i believe the alpine x type comps and this test was done wit measuring equipment the works. he talks about the re tweeter bieng kinda harsh ect, check it out

What if your runnin exactly 100rms/side? Cause i've got the 5.25 cv's comin and I think they have the 460 crossover?

djdilliodon
09-07-2004, 10:33 PM
wit a 100rms exact really its a hit or miss. not all of em do it wit that power its just it can happen. try it out if it starts just go for the 560 upgrade its pretty cheap:)

Puggsley456
09-07-2004, 10:40 PM
:thumbsup:
wit a 100rms exact really its a hit or miss. not all of em do it wit that power its just it can happen. try it out if it starts just go for the 560 upgrade its pretty cheap:)

I'll just watch the gain :thumbsup:

Berry47
09-08-2004, 11:54 AM
I've got 300rms to each of my hd-62cf's with the 560 crossover and I am having no problems whatsoever.

`pr0digy
09-08-2004, 03:06 PM
I've got 300rms to each of my hd-62cf's with the 560 crossover and I am having no problems whatsoever.


You ever actually give them 300rms though ?

altico
09-08-2004, 06:54 PM
You ever actually give them 300rms though ?

is it that he wouldn't be giving them the 300rms per side if he sets the gains on the amp low?? Just trying to clear this up for myself.

squeak9798
09-08-2004, 07:55 PM
is it that he wouldn't be giving them the 300rms per side if he sets the gains on the amp low?? Just trying to clear this up for myself.

Music is dynamic (i.e. changes frequently) so it will never stay at a constant wattage output. Plus the amp won't put out it's "rated" power unless pushed very hard. Under normal listening conditions, with a "300 watt" amp you will never ever actually send that much wattage. Send a 0db sine wave at full volume and you will, and that is about to the only time except for maybe very short transients at a pretty high volume, and even then it would only send the power for a very, very, very short period of time (like, milliseconds).

A true 300w will kill just about any midbass on the market.

diminishedpower
09-09-2004, 12:09 AM
not to hijack but the re comp adn cdt cl-61a comps are the same price, which one would you guys think would sound best, by the way i liek soft highs and be able to get the low notes decently on it

supa_c
09-09-2004, 12:20 AM
not to hijack but the re comp adn cdt cl-61a comps are the same priceit depends who you get the CDT's from ;)

altico
09-09-2004, 12:34 AM
send tim an email at [email protected] . He's got good prices and good to deal with. I bought my new EF comps and CL6x's from him... should be here tomorrow... can't wait.

supa_c
09-09-2004, 12:37 AM
its Tim French AKA tplaya07.
his other email is [email protected]

diminishedpower
09-09-2004, 09:21 PM
thats not a straight answer what do you mean it depends, is some fault or something? thezeb has em for the exact price as the re's

squeak9798
09-09-2004, 11:02 PM
thats not a straight answer what do you mean it depends, is some fault or something? thezeb has em for the exact price as the re's

But thezeb isn't the only CDT outlet. Supposedly that Tplaya07 has them for a better price than thezeb.

Mindless
09-10-2004, 02:44 PM
Yeah I got my cl-62's for 165 shipped from djdilliodon There brand new sealed and they are warranted for 3 years they list @ 349 or so on the zeb (which is what the receipt he sends shows for warranty reasons)..... So you can save a bunch of money on the cdt's which would make em a better deal in the long run ....

birsling
09-10-2004, 05:17 PM
I got my CL-5X from the Zeb, and then I bought my EF's, HD1020 sub, upstage kit, and some other stuff from lightav in Texas. CDT drop shipped them to me, and the prices were dirt cheap.

dthadamaja
09-11-2004, 04:05 AM
http://mainstreet-audio.com/cdtaudio/cdt_classic_series.shtml

how bout this, they got the cl-62's for 150 shipped and the zeb has the cl-61's for 150, which is better? the 61 or 62?

supa_c
09-11-2004, 04:17 AM
I believe its the basket that makes that different

dthadamaja
09-11-2004, 04:42 AM
just curious as well. cdt states the cl-62's do 150 rms, is that for each side or for the whole set.

supa_c
09-11-2004, 04:44 AM
150w per component.
300w a set.
Only stupid people list the power for a set= ebay
I have a hook up if you want some CDT gear

EFFENDI
09-11-2004, 04:58 AM
^^^^^^^ you mean per side.....^^^^^^^^^^

ighettoboyi
09-11-2004, 04:59 PM
is mainstreet audio legit? i might purchase those if people with experience can vouch for them over the re's. I need info...

i thought the cl-62's were better than the cl-61 no? mainstreet is selling the 61 for way more...

Puggsley456
09-11-2004, 05:33 PM
is mainstreet audio legit? i might purchase those if people with experience can vouch for them over the re's. I need info...


I have never ordered from them myself......but I noticed that Visonik has them listed on their website as an authorised online dealer. If that helps any.

altico
09-11-2004, 11:14 PM
I've got 300rms to each of my hd-62cf's with the 560 crossover and I am having no problems whatsoever.


Is the hd-62cf really the same thing as the EF-61CFi?? Curious...

Puggsley456
09-12-2004, 09:51 AM
Is the hd-62cf really the same thing as the EF-61CFi?? Curious...
I'm not sure but I think the EF's have a different basket on them.

ighettoboyi
09-12-2004, 10:36 PM
so is the cl-62 better than the 61? like i said earlier mainstreet is selling the 61's for a lot more..

djdilliodon
09-13-2004, 12:10 AM
the cl-62 is better than the cl-61. But why get the cl-62 when u can get the ef-61 which is better for 15 bux more shipped:) The hd-61cf is a little different from the ef-61cfi/25. the ef-61cfi/25 steps upto 560's and tw-25s 1" silks where as the other has 3/4" tweets and 456's.