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sumone
08-01-2004, 06:03 PM
wanna get some 6 or 6.5 midbass drivers in the doors (which will add into my 2-way hd-62ef set in the kick panels). nothing greater than 6.5inch...even though I know people'll try to recommend me some...

prices & opinions if you have any.

squeak9798
08-01-2004, 07:07 PM
Peerless CSX 6.5" - http://www.speakercity.com/Peerless_files/csx176h.shtml, http://www.speakercity.com/Peerless_files/csx165c.shtml
Peerless HDS w/ pp 6.5" - http://www.speakercity.com/Peerless_files/hds182phaseplug.shtml
Vifa MG (7") - http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=297-364
Vifa PL (7") - http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=297-323
Morel MW-164 - http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=297-030
Usher (7") - http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=296-600
Seas W17E 002 - http://madisound.com/seas.html
Max Fidelity MF-170-75L/4 - http://www.meniscusaudio.com/speakercomponents/default.cfm

sumone
08-01-2004, 07:18 PM
beautiful

any experience with any of 'em?

ss3079
08-01-2004, 07:28 PM
I used the Peerless CSX's 6.5's and 8's before I got my ID stuff.

They sounded good, but not as good as my ID items.

They were accurate, smooth, and tight. They were good to me, but not good enough ... which is why I choose to change to something else.

I'd take a good look at the Peerless HDS, Seas, and Morel stuff.

- Steve

Depression
08-01-2004, 07:36 PM
Adire Koda 6.1

ss3079
08-01-2004, 07:36 PM
And I liked those over my Peerless CSX ... highly recommended.

- Steve

JimJ
08-01-2004, 07:41 PM
Kicker RMB8's...

i've heard of 8W0's being used as mids, as well.

squeak9798
08-01-2004, 08:45 PM
Kicker RMB8's...

i've heard of 8W0's being used as mids, as well.

He said 6.5s, not 8s ;)

Redford
08-01-2004, 09:14 PM
RMB6 then (not the same person)

zodiacfish
08-01-2004, 11:27 PM
Why not match and go with the HD-6 midbass drivers?

sumone
08-03-2004, 03:28 AM
dunno about going with hd-6s...I want something that's purely midbass, say 70->200hz.

peerless's 6.5" stuff is pretty deep, with regards to mounting depth. I doubt I'd be able to fit anything over 3 inches (all of their 6.5s are at least 3 & 1/8").

what ID stuff did you get that you say are better than the peerless's output?

I'm liking the morel 6" mw-164 (http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?DID=7&PartNumber=297-030), especially since they have only a 2 & 11/16" mounting depth requirement. one question, is that $84 for one, or for a pair??? I would think for a pair, but then they have the peerless stuff for like $30-$50.

sumone
08-03-2004, 03:33 AM
dunno about going with hd-6s...I want something that's purely midbass, say 70->200hz.

peerless's 6.5" stuff is pretty deep, with regards to mounting depth. I doubt I'd be able to fit anything over 3 inches (all of their 6.5s are at least 3 & 1/8").

what ID stuff did you get that you say are better than the peerless's output?

I'm liking the morel 6" mw-164 (http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?DID=7&PartNumber=297-030), especially since they have only a 2 & 11/16" mounting depth requirement. one question, is that $84 for one, or for a pair??? I would think for a pair, but then they have the peerless stuff for like $30-$50.


I know I said 6.5, but then I read this about the rmb8s:

...Shallow enough to fit in a door (the 8-inch RMB8 is a mere 2-1/4 inches thick)...If you're short on space, they even go low enough to use as freeair subwoofers. An 8-inch sub in the door - thats really Livin Loud!

I was gonna have to cut some plastic even to fit 6.5s in there, now I'm thinking, why the hell not with an 8"....

binboy2003
08-03-2004, 07:34 AM
Digital Designs W6.5
http://www.ddaudio.com/dd/caraudio/woofers.asp?series=W6.5

squeak9798
08-03-2004, 12:22 PM
what ID stuff did you get that you say are better than the peerless's output?

http://www.cardomain.com/item/IDSCX64 - I'm going to guess Steve was talking about these


I'm liking the morel 6" mw-164 (http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?DID=7&PartNumber=297-030), especially since they have only a 2 & 11/16" mounting depth requirement. one question, is that $84 for one, or for a pair??? I would think for a pair, but then they have the peerless stuff for like $30-$50.

Not a pair, that's $84 per speaker (i.e. for one).

sumone
08-03-2004, 01:01 PM
^....well those morels are outta the question....and the seas too if they're talkin 141 per driver....

I'm trying to spend about $150 max altogether, so I guess that would mean about $60-70 per driver if I reserve about 10-20 for shipping.

I did some measuring and there's no way I can fit an 8 in the door without doing MAJOR cutting. The most I'm willing to do is do a little "trimming" and adding a baffle (stock holes are 4x6).

The rmb6/8s are really catching my interest, however they seem to be unfindable. I guess they're replaced by the 04ssmb6 and 04ssmb8? anyone know anything about the differences between the rmb6s and 04ssmb6s; kicker's site even list them on their products page.

here's (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3292&item=5712768822&rd=1) an ebay ad for rmb8 for about 80, ending in about a day. The only (plausible) review I was able to find said he was happy but he felt the transient response was lacking. So I was wondering if they had been improved by the 04ssmb6 ?

zephyr
08-03-2004, 07:10 PM
CDT HD midbass and ID CX64 are pretty similar in low end extension and overall midbass sound. Next midbass I'd like to try is Koda and RE midbass with XBL^2.

zodiacfish
08-03-2004, 08:10 PM
[QUOTE=sumone]dunno about going with hd-6s...I want something that's purely midbass, say 70->200hz.

That would be the job of a band pass filter. Since the HD-6's have a response of 55~7k Hz it could be narrowed to your range. It will be extremely difficult to get useful feedback from users on different speakers as they don't typically attempt what you are trying to do. I think that whatever speakers you choose, you would be in a position to educate the forum on your results.

Bavarian3
08-03-2004, 09:42 PM
Image Dynamics CX

sumone
08-04-2004, 02:55 AM
dunno about going with hd-6s...I want something that's purely midbass, say 70->200hz.

That would be the job of a band pass filter. Since the HD-6's have a response of 55~7k Hz it could be narrowed to your range. It will be extremely difficult to get useful feedback from users on different speakers as they don't typically attempt what you are trying to do. I think that whatever speakers you choose, you would be in a position to educate the forum on your results.

My thoughts weren't really coherent on that line, I **** at putting my thoughts from my head down on paper. The frequency range I listed is pretty much the range I feel the driver should hit...so like I really wouldn't want a midrange/midbass driver, but a pure midbass driver. Like the rmb6s supposedly just go up to 500hz.

Reason why I wouldn't want the cdt hd-6 is just cause, don't I already have it? Isn't it the same as the one in the components??

NOw I'm thinking though...I have the hd-62efs...the hd-6...isn't that a higher end one? Cause I know the hd-62s cost way more than the hd-62efs (which I think now are just called the ef-61cfs?) Different drivers?

zodiacfish
08-04-2004, 11:41 AM
NOw I'm thinking though...I have the hd-62efs...the hd-6...isn't that a higher end one? Cause I know the hd-62s cost way more than the hd-62efs (which I think now are just called the ef-61cfs?) Different drivers?

I'm not familiar with the model designation you gave, but hd-6 = hd-62s - tweeter. I assume you either find your current setup lacking midbass, or you have a preference for stronger midbass than most. I think any quality speaker narrowed to your range would do just as well as one 'desgined' for it, particularly since we're talking low frequencies.

zephyr
08-04-2004, 04:45 PM
You could use some mini sub like 6w0, IDQ6, tangband, etc if you want. Most of them have a frequency range lower than midrange/midbass driver but roll off higher than full size subs.

naughty#9
08-04-2004, 04:53 PM
if you can find a set of Vifa M18WN19-04's, they are one of the better midbass units i have used for an IB install.

if i were going to buy a new set that i hadn't used, i would get the new Alpine spx-17mb's. they look pretty impressive, but are a little more expensive than a set of raw drivers. they have a fairly high qts, and they have 5.85mm's x-max, so they should hammer and work well in a door install.

http://www.ikesound.com/product-product_id/2227

Strecker25
08-05-2004, 12:21 AM
ive had experience with vifa drivers for home audio and theyre extremely impressive, same drivers Thiel uses in their speakers, and if anyone knows theil you know they sound quite good

csf
08-09-2004, 02:07 PM
JL makes some 6" subs that could probably do what you are asking. Just putting my marshmellows over the fire.