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s5pitfire
07-30-2004, 04:40 PM
What brand of head unit do you like?

I mostly hear people talking about eclipse and alpines.....what do you prefer to use? :veryexci:

saywhat?
07-30-2004, 04:42 PM
Eclipse....all i've ever used, and prolly ever will use.

ss3079
07-30-2004, 04:44 PM
Eclipse, Alpine, Clarion, Kenwood eXcelon, Pioneer, Pioneer Premier, Denon, Panasonic, Nakamichi. I'd use only certain models from Sony, JVC, and Blaupunkt.

- Steve

skeptikal
07-30-2004, 04:45 PM
What brand of head unit do you like?

The ones that dont give any lip ;) (talk back)..... or scrape....


lol jp... i'm more prone to pioneer 6600+, and any of the kenwood excelon h/u's.

6spdcoupe
07-30-2004, 04:46 PM
Eclipse Only, as most of my customers agree.

--Don

skeptikal
07-30-2004, 04:49 PM
no don for real... where in your sig does it say "Eclipse?" lol

bigwheel15
07-30-2004, 04:51 PM
Im a pioneer man myself. Although I HAVE to add eclipse just because. :)

s5pitfire
07-30-2004, 04:52 PM
Somone told me that even if your head unit doesn't support "MP3 playeback" (usually the cheap low end head units) that it can still play a CD with 10 hours of MP3 files .... i was like BS.
True?

skeptikal
07-30-2004, 05:04 PM
if it doesnt support "mp3 playback", then i seriously dont think it would "playback mp3's" but maybe the headunit company is trying to bs you or somethin idk...

6spdcoupe
07-30-2004, 05:12 PM
no don for real... where in your sig does it say "Eclipse?" lol


Got me there... :cop:


Stock Navi HU in this one. One of the primary reasons Im considering selling the car.

--Don

LuNaTiC
07-30-2004, 05:28 PM
i like JVC recievers.

CP400M
07-30-2004, 05:44 PM
Im a fan of eclipse. I have had no problems with mine

davidfre21
07-30-2004, 05:46 PM
only pioneer here


love the one i got

supa_c
07-30-2004, 05:49 PM
DUAL, Sanyo, Sony, Awia and nothin beats Stock.

GRANDV
07-30-2004, 05:56 PM
I'll take Alpine

ShakinSupra
07-30-2004, 05:59 PM
I love my Nakamichi.

JimJ
07-30-2004, 06:02 PM
naks = very nice :D

i just wish they made an MP3-compatible deck, then I'd seriously look at replacing my Alpine...

JLCivic
07-30-2004, 08:45 PM
I have used most major brands(pioneer, alpine, kenwood, clarion, eclipse) of decks over the past 14 years, and out of those, I prefer any Eclipse I have owned to the rest. Eclipse has always been very reliable for me and their decks just sounded better to me than what I had used.

I do now run an RF 8250 which is a very nice deck. If the opportunity to buy this deck had not come along, I would still be running an 8053.

kungfoojesus
07-30-2004, 08:58 PM
I like my clarion deck even though I'm not sure the crossovers and stuff even work on it haha. Oh well I got an amp so who needs them. Clarion is good, just don't use the internal amp... ever.

s5pitfire
07-30-2004, 10:33 PM
My head unit DOESNT have a sub pre-out and only has 2 volts for pre-outputs. Is this horrible? I was told that i would suffer with a subwoofer. And that there isnt enough volts...

Shyne151
07-30-2004, 10:39 PM
I've always had Alpine and never had a problem with them...

saywhat?
07-30-2004, 10:45 PM
My head unit DOESNT have a sub pre-out and only has 2 volts for pre-outputs. Is this horrible? I was told that i would suffer with a subwoofer. And that there isnt enough volts...


a pre out is a pre out.....period.

saywhat?
07-30-2004, 10:45 PM
naks = very nice :D

i just wish they made an MP3-compatible deck, then I'd seriously look at replacing my Alpine...



i really want one of these

Chevillac
07-31-2004, 03:46 AM
I used to like Pioneer until i started having all these problems.
Anyway I have never had a problem with my blaunkpunt, jvc, or alpine head units, or any of their products that ive had.
Hey what are some other flip outs that people have used here? I wanna get rid of my pioneer and get something else, thinking about the clarion vrx935, my friend has had his for over and year and no problems yet.
C

supa_c
07-31-2004, 03:49 AM
clarion= junk
i forgot to add Road Gear to my 1st post

95RAM
07-31-2004, 03:52 AM
road gear is the shiz nit.

Chevillac
07-31-2004, 03:52 AM
Sorry but i said clarion was junk too, then 2 of my friends got teh vrx935, guess who is still riding around listening to music? Not me, My pioneer is broken and has been gone for 42 days, dealign with pioneer has been terrible too.

supa_c
07-31-2004, 03:55 AM
id keep the 7500. it is the best right now. 42 days would **** me off too but would you rather have a KIA or a Caddy

Chevillac
07-31-2004, 04:02 AM
id keep the 7500. it is the best right now. 42 days would **** me off too but would you rather have a KIA or a Caddy
Well since i drive a caddy i guess i would have to say the caddy haha. But yeah they are still telling me that it wont be until next week when they get it done. But yeah im probly going to end up keeping it, dont wanna start over with this again, i just wanted it to last me until the christmas season.

supa_c
07-31-2004, 04:04 AM
thats why i put Caddy.;)

Chevillac
07-31-2004, 04:09 AM
thats why i put Caddy.;)
well on the other hand kias have a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty and good gas mileage. and its way cheaper











































j/k

supa_c
07-31-2004, 04:15 AM
and you can look like a fÄg driving one :), thats why i love KIA.

supa_c
07-31-2004, 04:19 AM
O.K enough thread jacking. Also i like Legacy H/U

Chevillac
07-31-2004, 04:19 AM
and you can look like a fÄg driving one :), thats why i love KIA.
What if a girl is driving one? I seen some **** around GA, driving saturns, jettas, and miatas. 2 of them are in the army but Dont ask Dont tell Dont harras....

Chevillac
07-31-2004, 04:21 AM
my other friend had a problem with his rockford i put that in another thread though, about when it gets hot it stops playign mp3s and some cds, still never figured out why.

supa_c
07-31-2004, 04:24 AM
same with my stock cd player.
P.S i was reffering to you in the KIA not some hot chick.
when a girl drives it its different.

Zerstorer
07-31-2004, 04:37 AM
I favor Kenwood or Pioneer. Never had much luck with Sony... or low end Pioneer (a h/u for less than $100 only seems like a good deal)

I like the layout and look of Kenwood h/u.

supa_c
07-31-2004, 04:52 AM
(a h/u for less than $100 only seems like a good deal)my blaupunkt bpv-755 was $116. it was a very good deal.
But then again its Blaupunkt ;)

EFFENDI
07-31-2004, 04:59 AM
Of the units I've owned I like JVC, Blaupunkt, and those yet to own I like Eclipse, Alpine, and Pioneer. don 't forget Delco and Infinity - factory stock baby!

supa_c
07-31-2004, 05:00 AM
Blaupunkt is stock.

zane
07-31-2004, 11:22 AM
Sony, Pioneer, and Eclipse are on the top of my list. Each for a very good reason as well.

Alpine is begining to p*ss me off.

I've dealt with a couple different Alpine HU's this last week; my own included, and they all seem to have developed a nasty problem with skipping, and motorization failing.

<shrug>

jleecong
07-31-2004, 12:14 PM
HU I've owned... Sony, Kenwood, Alpine, Clarion, Pioneer, JVC.

The Kenwood was the only that ever failed the rest were upgrades/newest model. My next player will probably be an Eclipse as I have had many friends with them and they have never had problems.

idiot
07-31-2004, 01:22 PM
clarion= junk

Maybe. But I’d kick a thousand helpless puppies for the opportunity to touch this (http://www.clarion.com/usa/product/index.php?mod=details&category=source&product=DRZ9255) piece of junk. ;)

But in light of something with such a high price tag, I’ve been quite happy with my Denford 8250. My only disappointment has been with the clock feature; everything else has been wonderfully golden.

ss3079
07-31-2004, 02:26 PM
Alpine is begining to p*ss me off.


I still haven't figured out what half of the buttons are, where half of the settings are located, how to get into those settings, and how to tune them. :blow_up:

- Steve

zodiacfish
07-31-2004, 02:53 PM
Any brand with dolby decoding ability (i.e. Alpine, Clarion, Eclipse, Kenwood).

zane
07-31-2004, 03:44 PM
Ding Ding

I absolutely HATE the Bass/Treble/Mid adjustements on Alpine HU's.

One giant Cluster F*ck IMHO.

The way they set it up makes it very difficult to know the amount of each frequency you have dialed in, thus making them a PITA to tune.

The skipping is completely a new thing for me though. I could hardly believe what I was seeing, as I have never before had or heard of an Alpine skipping this badly.

Hrmm, mabey too much time in the sun? ;)

ss3079
07-31-2004, 03:54 PM
I gave up a long time ago. Next unit will be an old M670 from Sony or something.

Now the skipping thing is something I haven't heard of.

- Steve

Acidburn
07-31-2004, 04:04 PM
i have a Pioneer and think its great

ya, Alpines are really confusing when i go into Circuit City or wherever, i can figure out the Pioneers (7600) with no problem but i could not figure out how to change stuff on any of the Alpines... this may just be because i have never owned a Alpine HU but they sure do seem complicated

ss3079
07-31-2004, 05:51 PM
I have two and still can't completely figure them out ... :(

- Steve

the_flatlander
07-31-2004, 06:24 PM
Pioneer all the way :toast: :peace:

MXJMR
07-31-2004, 06:44 PM
Im a fan of the built in EQ's in the higher models of Pioneer. There somewhat complex but very easy to understand and use. Alpine has nice units also.

MasterBlast
07-31-2004, 07:31 PM
I say alpine works good. Thats what i like.

unrealii
07-31-2004, 08:57 PM
I like my eclipse...Dont think I will go to any other brands on my next purcahse will is probably a very long time from now.

supa_c
07-31-2004, 09:44 PM
Maybe. But I’d kick a thousand helpless puppies for the opportunity to touch this (http://www.clarion.com/usa/product/index.php?mod=details&category=source&product=DRZ9255) piece of junk. ;)

But in light of something with such a high price tag, I’ve been quite happy with my Denford 8250. My only disappointment has been with the clock feature; everything else has been wonderfully golden. ill take a pioneer preimer. 6v preout.

idiot
07-31-2004, 10:01 PM
ill take a pioneer preimer. 6v preout.

Your choice, of course.
However, in my opinion:

Fiber optic output > 6V RCAs

supa_c
07-31-2004, 10:04 PM
what amps take Fibre optic?

idiot
07-31-2004, 10:08 PM
I’ve never had any reason to know. ;) I’m sure that various processors do, as well as certain amps.
The Pioneer P9 is configured the same way: 4V RCAs and digital out.

supa_c
07-31-2004, 10:13 PM
thats what im talking about.
DEX-P9 with DEQ-P9. The best pioneer makes.
the DEH-P860MP and P960MMP are 6.5v. the P9 is only 4v

idiot
07-31-2004, 10:20 PM
Yep. I certainly wouldn’t turn down the P9 combo, if offered freely.
My point was simply that Clarion is quite capable of making good head units, even though their cheaper models do not rank top on my list, in their respective price ranges.

supa_c
07-31-2004, 10:23 PM
Lower end clarion, not good. High end Clarion, good.
argument over.

s5pitfire
07-31-2004, 10:25 PM
Would 2.2 volts and 3 volts make a big different for preouts?

supa_c
07-31-2004, 10:27 PM
nope. you wouldnt notice it. most hve said that their old 2v H/U wasnt any worse than their 4v H/U. now if it were 2v and 6.5v you would probly notice it

phrozen5100
08-01-2004, 01:07 AM
I myself own a Clarion DXZ735MP and it's worked very nicely for me, I only wish it had a good eq on it. I did have the absolute lowest level deck that Pioneer makes(DEH-5...Wally World package deal) and it worked just fine for me for about 9 months, until I got my Clarion in. I like alot of the other Pioneer/Premier decks and Alpines. I've never messed around with any Eclipse decks, though.

EFFENDI
08-01-2004, 01:16 AM
fiber optic output goes to a separate digital audio decoder or processor's input,
there are no amps that i know of that will accept a fiber optic (toslink) input. not to say it cant be done but if they are available they would be extremely expensive and hard to acquire. there are some higher end zapco amps (if im not mistaken) that will accept a semi-propietaty SPDIF digital audio connection but I am sure I have the wrong brand name in mind. its been a while since i have heard anything about that. its is pretty lame considering almost all home theater setups use some form of digital audio or video connections. why is the ICE (incar entertainment) industry so far behind? its not a durability issue, in fact, digital connections would be far less succeptable to road noise and interference. i say we all email the big 3 (sony, alpine, pioneer) and tell them to get on the ball.

supa_c
08-01-2004, 01:20 AM
you put sony n there. wrong o

DBfan187
08-01-2004, 01:22 AM
I like whichever one I can get/afford:D

I like my Pioneer Premier DEH-350.

Depression
08-01-2004, 01:28 AM
Yea..I gotta go with the whole array of PIONEER stuff..As I said in a Earlier post..I understand those who are militant about ALPINES..But I am over it, ALPINE is "old Reliable" Always high quality and great user reviews..but never "Groundbreaking"..Plus I think Alpine Faces are too cluttered with useless knobs and features just to look "High budget"..Simpler is better to me these days and Pioneer has that covered in my mind

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT PANASONICS BIG PUSH INTO THE HIGH END HEAD UNIT MARKET...THEY LOOK IMPRESSIVE BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO HAS MADE THE JUMP YET!!!I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THAT 4X60 WATT RMS UNIT???IT HAS GOTTEN GREAT REVIEWS FROM THE MAGAZINES BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN ONE IN ACTION!!

EFFENDI
08-01-2004, 01:29 AM
higher voltage preout just helps to get the audio signal to your amp via rca connection with less distortion and interference. the difference is hard to detect by human ear. even between something with 2V outs compared to 8V preouts. (think of it as a higher wattage radio antenna- the higher power the clearer signal with less interference, static, and noise)

let me remind everyone that SQ is based all in the installation and quality of gear you are running.... a crappy amp will take a low voltage signal and make it sound like louder crap. a decent amp with a low voltage signal will make it sound like something decent. now take a crappy amp and feed it a higher voltage signal, well it might sound like louder crap but louder crap that you can at least bear to listen to. a decent amp with a higher voltage signal will sound a lot better than any other combination.

that is an exaggeration but you get the idea.
most often you will not be able to detect the difference in sound quality, in fact it is less likely if you are running decent equipment.

a higher preout voltage - well you pay more to have a source unit with them, but the difference is negotiable.

Depression
08-01-2004, 01:32 AM
EFFENDI...I am a believer in High output voltage..But I learned something interesting a little while ago..You know how most people play down the quality of "Speaker level inputs" usually on stock units..Apparently a Speaker level line carries about 5-7 volts output..making it better than pre-out voltage on aftermarket units...Very interesting fact since most people think Speaker level inputs are un-desirable over 3 sets of pre-outs etc.???

Berry47
08-01-2004, 01:35 AM
Eclipse!!!

Depression
08-01-2004, 01:46 AM
GOOD CALL.. I HAVE HEARD GREAT THINGS ABOUT ECLIPSE!!!! Although I have not partaken in thier products yet!

But also lets get real guys..KRACO used to make a mean head unit!!!
And PYLE is coming out with a excellent 2005 line

s5pitfire
08-01-2004, 02:20 AM
Ok well thanks guys.
This guy told me that my new pioneer deh4600 ***** horribly mostly because it only has 2.2 volts. There was an apline that he recommended that had 3 volts pre out, but i would have had to spend another $40 and NOT get my free wiring harness and accessories.
I guess it doesnt even matter too much.

Depression
08-01-2004, 02:27 AM
I have always been bewildered by the unpredictable Output voltages on units and Especially Pioneers..This years models have alot of units that have 4V or lower when They had higher Voltage ratings last year??
All I know for sure is to get the Premier models above 7500 if you want the standard features but with a higher output voltage..
I must admit I have seen and HEARD many a nice system with Head units pumping out only 2.2 volts etc..so Voltage importance is an interesting and debatable topic.

EFFENDI
08-01-2004, 05:22 AM
the only problem with speaker level inputs is that they often have inconsistent voltages (since it is transmitting the output of another amplifier) and thus are less reliable transmitting the audio signal. im pretty sure there is a loss in voltage as well when using LOCs (line output converters) so it may be a higher voltage, but as i mentioned that doesnt equate to *noticable* improvements in SQ.

6spdcoupe
08-01-2004, 12:45 PM
I have always been bewildered by the unpredictable Output voltages on units and Especially Pioneers..This years models have alot of units that have 4V or lower when They had higher Voltage ratings last year??
All I know for sure is to get the Premier models above 7500 if you want the standard features but with a higher output voltage..
I must admit I have seen and HEARD many a nice system with Head units pumping out only 2.2 volts etc..so Voltage importance is an interesting and debatable topic.


Not so much the voltage that is provided, but the impedance of it....

--Don

EFFENDI
08-01-2004, 02:57 PM
S5pitfire, if the salesman is pushing you that hard for only $40 then he must be hungry. I say let him starve and get the cheaper Pioneer. When you are speaking about 0.8V it is really debatable for an additional $40.00. By the way where are you purchasing it from?

s5pitfire
08-02-2004, 07:13 PM
S5pitfire, if the salesman is pushing you that hard for only $40 then he must be hungry. I say let him starve and get the cheaper Pioneer. When you are speaking about 0.8V it is really debatable for an additional $40.00. By the way where are you purchasing it from?

The guy that gave me his opinions was not my salesman. I bought my HU from cardomain.com

denim
08-03-2004, 05:26 PM
Eclipse, Pioneer Premieer, Denon, Nakamichi

3.5Max6spd
08-03-2004, 05:29 PM
Not so much the voltage that is provided, but the impedance of it....



--Don

hmmmm......low 55ohm impedance on my Eclipse's preouts....yummy :thumbsup:

Chevillac
08-05-2004, 06:26 PM
hey supa, it will have been 52 days before i get my head unit back. The WHOLE SUMMER without music in my car. wasted summer because of pioneer. Wasted money on subwoofer and ps2 and tvs, because fo pioneer, my car was jsut a big suitcase with expensive equipment. **** pioneer ***** big monkey balls.

I get it back on the 9th, it broke june 19th

6spdcoupe
08-05-2004, 08:02 PM
hey supa, it will have been 52 days before i get my head unit back. The WHOLE SUMMER without music in my car. wasted summer because of pioneer. Wasted money on subwoofer and ps2 and tvs, because fo pioneer, my car was jsut a big suitcase with expensive equipment. **** pioneer ***** big monkey balls.

I get it back on the 9th, it broke june 19th


Why so long? I have never had my customers wait nearly that long. Where did you get it from?

--Don

supa_c
08-05-2004, 08:07 PM
hey supa, it will have been 52 days before i get my head unit back. The WHOLE SUMMER without music in my car. wasted summer because of pioneer. Wasted money on subwoofer and ps2 and tvs, because fo pioneer, my car was jsut a big suitcase with expensive equipment. **** pioneer ***** big monkey balls.

I get it back on the 9th, it broke june 19thman that licks major ███
you just got a bad one:thumbsdo:

supa_c
08-05-2004, 08:08 PM
its at pioneer 6speedcoupe

JLCivic
08-05-2004, 09:17 PM
hmmmm......low 55ohm impedance on my Eclipse's preouts....yummy :thumbsup:


Same on my RF 8250. :thumbupw:

Chevillac
08-05-2004, 10:26 PM
Why so long? I have never had my customers wait nearly that long. Where did you get it from?

--Don

yeah, liek supa said its at pioneer, everytime they fixed one thing another thing would go bad, rediculous, I only sent it in once but it had 5 things go wrong with it since june 19th, and they refused to send me another head unit *until today, jsut so they could use the excuse that the repaired head unit is on the way so they cant send me another one until they get that one back. BS :bsflag: because they wouldnt send me another one when i kept asking before.

supa_c
08-05-2004, 10:29 PM
yo Devillian00 ever heard of the BS flag, shoulda used it