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sumone
06-06-2004, 06:31 PM
Car: 2000 Malibu
My experience with cars: Pretty much just able to install a system; never really dealt with the real electrical-type stuff in the car.

I went to best buy just so I could get some prices, and the lowest priced one I saw was a viper alarm (no remote entry) for 170. Then the guy was like it'll cost me an extra 120 cause of the type of car I have, stuff goes into the radio. But I'm like, what if I have an aftermarket head unit, and he was like it still connects to the wires inside the dash and stuff. Basically I just don't wanna be raped;

People've told me an audio system is nothing to install, while an alarm is hard as hell, and've said I do something wrong installing the alarm that I could end up with an inoperable car. I would feel more comfortable having a REAL professional put it in at a considerable price. The guys at best buy were saying that if I found one for a low price off the internet, they wouldn't be able to install it.

So what do you guys think? As far as a price range, pretty much anything less than 300? Is that reasonable? As far as features; all I need is just an alarm, blinking lights (my horn doesn't work; lemme rephrase, I have a new horn but there's a problem in the steering column that sets it off randomly so they just pulled the fuse). I'm (lol) never gonna hear the alarm; it's just to let other people know.

Sleeklsc
06-08-2004, 04:38 AM
FOR 300 U COULD GET A a alarm/remote start/keyless entree.....im gettin a prestige in the next couple weekks for like 280 installed...i have to pay an extra 30 for sum module to by pass the anti theft allready on the car.....there r alot of choices out there...go to a small stereo/ alarm shop and talk to them aboutr it..


p.s. where in chi u at

sumone
06-08-2004, 12:40 PM
cool, thanks for the response.

the north side in Uptown (by lake shore drive).

know of any shops that you'd recommend? Cause I had a bad experience with this other shop before I started gettin involved in installing audio equipment myself. They also do alarms, but I sure is hell ain't going back there.

bri487
06-09-2004, 06:04 PM
FOR 300 U COULD GET A a alarm/remote start/keyless entree.....im gettin a prestige in the next couple weekks for like 280 installed...i have to pay an extra 30 for sum module to by pass the anti theft allready on the car.....there r alot of choices out there...go to a small stereo/ alarm shop and talk to them aboutr it..


p.s. where in chi u at
i've got the the prestige aps-996a (http://www.audiovox.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=12870&langId=-1)
on my mustang. the one with that as well has remote start, remote windows, keyless entree, alarm, and an LCD remote. i love it. it works very well. but as far as installing it yourself, i wouldn't do it unless you know a lot about those things. i do a lot of stereos, and from looking at the work done on my alarm by a professional installer, i would never attempt doing it myself. and once you get into ignition stuff and things that kill the igntion if the alarm is malfunctioning, i would rather not strand myself in the middle of the hood, or better yet make my car not function at all. let someone who really knows what they are doing hanndle it.

sumone
06-10-2004, 11:11 PM
ok, I'm set on having a prof. do it; but what are reasonable prices to buy an alarm & get installed? was that 280 figure above a low number, average, or high? all I'm goin off of is best buy's prices....

Exploder 97
06-10-2004, 11:17 PM
ebay,,, has some cheap a$s ones,,,, im going to get one from there...

AllStar1500bd
06-11-2004, 01:09 AM
ebay,,, has some cheap a$s ones,,,, im going to get one from there...
I tried that, make sure it doesn't come DOA. I've done ebay for all my car audio stuff, however, I would get a professional to install an alarm. You won't pay much more for one with the same features, and you won't spend a week installing the alarm.

Exploder 97
06-11-2004, 01:38 AM
DOA means what? thanks im not retarted LOL

PhatalOne
06-11-2004, 03:23 AM
Dead On Arrival

sumone
06-11-2004, 01:55 PM
would the best route be to:

1. buy cheap & decent off ebay & only pay a shop to put it in, or

2. buy from & pay a shop to put it in

3. go to best buy, buy from them (170), and pay the extra 120 for them to put it in

bri487
06-11-2004, 02:59 PM
research what alarm you want, then go to a professional and buy it from him. that way he is putting in a product that he is familiar with and if something goes wrong with it, he will most likely know what it is and how to fix it. another advantage to buying something from a dealer, is the warrenty. i know if you buy something off of ebay that it might have a maufaturers warranty, but then it is just a hassel and you dont want to wait that long to get your car fixed with a broken alarm. many things can go wrong with your car when your alarm is not functioning properly. nothing beats just going back to the guy and saying my alarm is broke and he swaps it out for a brand new one and that is the last you hear of it.

nln327
06-12-2004, 12:47 PM
hey....i think your alarm choice and install is very important. I would buy the best alarm you can afford and i would buy it from the shop. Have them install it also. The last thing you want is to have your stuff stolen because have a crappy or no alarm system in your car. Get the pager alarm if you can....it will let you know ASAP when your alarm goes off.

jtsai1
06-12-2004, 07:47 PM
hey sumone, there's a Ultimate Electronics at
5925 N. Illinois St.
Fairview Heights, Illinois 62208

I don't know if that's close or not, but the Alpine system my buddy got from there for like 250 installed is very nice and the installation is top notch. They're also available to adjust the alarma and the sensitivity, I would recommend this. But this was in AZ, should be same over there though.

Sleeklsc
06-13-2004, 03:55 AM
i was thinken the ebay route////bbbuuuttt

1)$ ranges 120- 160 for the pager/remote starrt/keyless there....(ebay)
2)shops up here will usually charge between 120-150 just to put it in...
so figure just shy of $300
im gunna pay $350....lifetime warrenty bbbuutttt.......
still tryin to figure wich alarm im gunna get but right now im leaning back towards the pager/ remote start...its worth it to me for the peice of mind,i get parronode as hell...
p.s. im tierd and babalin

crhye250r
06-16-2004, 03:56 PM
Keep in mind that most DEI Dealers wont install any alarm that isn't a DEI product. You have to watch buying the ebay stuff, because ALOT of reputable shops (including the one I install at) wont do it.

LBX2G
06-17-2004, 02:05 AM
Keep in mind that most DEI Dealers wont install any alarm that isn't a DEI product. You have to watch buying the ebay stuff, because ALOT of reputable shops (including the one I install at) wont do it.


this is very true and if u find one that will install an non-DEI alarm it might cost ur an arm a leg and a nut to get it put in. BUt check out millionbuy.com they got some good prices.

jleecong
06-17-2004, 12:57 PM
My 2 cents...

Have a pro install your alarm. (Best Buy, Circuit City are not pros. At least not the ones in my area.)

My local shop sold the alarm I wanted for $500.00 (Ungo MS8300) not including install. I found it mail order for 200.00 (SmilePhoto) and asked if they could come close to that price. They said no, so I asked if I could just order it have them install it. While they assured me I was getting a gray market or bad alarm for that price, they would be happy to do the install.

That was over 6 years ago and 2 cars ago and the shop that installed my alarm is closed along with all the other local shops, but my alarm is still kicking (3rd install now, all by the same installer). Install was $50.00, but was done after hours. Thanks Chad!

fugit
07-09-2004, 06:53 PM
Install for 50$ that rocks, I know no one where I live so I had to DIY, or get raped. I went to a shop that wanted 600$ for a viper 790xv(?) w/ RS installed in a 96 yukon. 100$ each for 530t window modules and 50$ per window to put them in. Thats like 1000$ for all that if they don't try to get me to get anything else. :thumbsdow I went ahead and bought 2 530t's and a 560xv for 280$ and installed it all myself. I know only a little about the electronis part, but I used to dismantle cars for LEA's for 4 years. It was hard, but not impossible. The only thing I still can't get exactly right is the **** Remote Start, but I'm willing to have everything else work perfectly, wires hidden, everything soldered, and I know where everything is.
From my experience, the only really "hard" part is knowing where all the wires are. Make sure you have a volt/ohm meter and TIME (like 2-3 full days). The inexperience will make you take 3-4 times as long as a decent installer at least. It all depends on how strapped you are for cash and if your willing to bust your *** and learn. I think the install would've been worth 200$ for all that, but not 700-800 like they wanted. Shop around, or read up, either way you have to live with what you do but no guts, no glory.

crhye250r
07-09-2004, 09:18 PM
I agree with part of the post above me. For starters, it is awesome that you did the window automation and stuff yourself. Thats something to be proud of. Any shop would charge close to that to do that much work. That is a bit on the high side though. I could have done that in probably 6 hours or so, but i have done so many i have lost count by now.


What kind of problem are you having with your remote start. Im sure i could help you iron it out. Get back with me, id be glad to help you out.

fugit
07-09-2004, 09:44 PM
The "From my experience" part, I forgot to say that was my first and only alarm experience. The time to install too was geared toward someone who has never done it before. It's spooky at first because its your car and you don't want to screw it up but like I said about the guts and glory. I mean if I could do it, I'm sure anyone could. crhye250r, thanks for the offer, I'll pm.

nitsuj
07-22-2004, 04:01 PM
I bought one of those Crutchfield alarms with the premade harness for my Blazer and it only took me a good part of a day to get it in. Not easy by any means, but again I knew where everything was and knew how to change any settings myself.

That harness saved my life, would have never even gotten close if it hadn't been for that.

6spdcoupe
07-23-2004, 01:09 AM
Shopping for a good quality reputable alarm can be a frustrating task. Alot of shops do overcharge and for simple things. Granted they have overhead and mouths to feed, so not exactly ripping anyone off, but still. Case in point..most dealers around me (self excluded) charge $65-$95 to connect keyless entry..In most cases it is just two more wires and a few minutes of time.

Drawbacks of buying online of course would be the warranty as well as most places not wanting to install them. If they do they will ( as do I) charge a somewhat higher price. The fairness in that...If something goes wrong with the alarm where are you going to go? Back to them, and they have to deal with it. Can be very time consuming a frustrating to the dealer. Also anything in the DEI- Viper,Clifford, or Python lines..MUST be dealer sold and installed.

I pretty much have all lines available to me, but I firmly stick with DEI. Most trusted,most proven,etc...

-_Don

sumone
08-16-2004, 03:56 PM
ok, I'm back and still undecided on:
1. what alarm (don't know what to look for)
2. where to buy or who to buy from and who to install (def. not me).

I'm just inclined to go to best buy and get this viper one put in for 300. I know a lot of you guys diss their rep as an audio installation service, but what about as an alarm installation service?

6spdcoupe
08-16-2004, 05:21 PM
ok, I'm back and still undecided on:
1. what alarm (don't know what to look for)
2. where to buy or who to buy from and who to install (def. not me).

I'm just inclined to go to best buy and get this viper one put in for 300. I know a lot of you guys diss their rep as an audio installation service, but what about as an alarm installation service?

As for BestBuy/Circuit City/etc..if theyre bad at radios, then they would typically be worse at alarms. Since it is a bit more difficult task. On the other hand it would depend which one you go to, so actually have decent installers whereas other dont know thier a$$ from a hole in the ground. Those stores dont really have much requirments when applying for those jobs....

--Don

Zerstorer
08-17-2004, 12:51 AM
Not to steal the thread, but this is something I'm looking into also... but I'm looking for something with fewer features... I don't need remote start, lcd to carry around, or any of that fancy stuff.

Where can I find a good system/dealer for a security system that will do this:
1. blink lights when armed/disarmed
2. go off when armed and doors are opened
3. page me

Thanks for pointing me the right way!

LBX2G
08-17-2004, 01:16 AM
go to millionbuy.com get the crimestopper 2-way pager and go find a good repabutle shop to install it.

Zerstorer
08-17-2004, 03:05 AM
go to millionbuy.com get the crimestopper 2-way pager and go find a good repabutle shop to install it.

I was eyeballin' that one earlier today... I'll check around and see who will install it.

sumone
08-17-2004, 02:27 PM
does crimestopper have a good rep?

6spdcoupe
08-17-2004, 05:02 PM
does crimestopper have a good rep?
They make a *decent* product. Dependability and reliabilty arent their storng points. I stopped carrying them awhile back due to those reasons.

--Don

sumone
08-20-2004, 02:13 PM
anyone in the chicago area know of any reputable installers? it seems, no offense to anyone, that the shops by me are unprofessional hispanics from down the block. I just don't wanna get f*cked over again by a shop (had a bad first experience before I tried learning to install).