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ace956
04-16-2014, 10:21 PM
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Hello, I designed and built all Soundstream old school amplifiers and crossovers from 1981 thru 1998. If anybody needs any info, parts, schematics or repairs on these amps p0lease contact me. I offer fair pricing along with certificate of performance on all repairs.
I hope this is not breaking any rules. you can contact me at: [email protected]

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tc300
04-16-2014, 10:24 PM
Hmmmm very interesting!!

DoesDad
04-16-2014, 10:33 PM
Hello, I designed and built all Soundstream old school amplifiers and crossovers from 1981 thru 1998. If anybody needs any info, parts, schematics or repairs on these amps p0lease contact me. I offer fair pricing along with certificate of performance on all repairs.
I hope this is not breaking any rules. you can contact me at: [email protected]

They're probably going to want you to become a vendor and pay the fee. No one does anything on this site anymore w/o someone getting their mitts into it.

ace956
04-16-2014, 11:09 PM
Thanks DoesDad, iwan't really sure about that. This is my first experience here. I wonder who I need to talk to. I mean I really don't make much with this. I'm more interested in helping anyone that needs it. You don't know who I need to talk to on here do you?
So DoesDad, what are you into?
Thanks again,
ace956

michaellane
04-16-2014, 11:14 PM
I want some pics of your SS stash

ace956
04-16-2014, 11:18 PM
So tc300, I guess this peaked your interest. At least I hope it does. So, what are you into? I like audio, making music and telling jokes and other stuff.
Hmmmmmmmmmm,
ace956

ace956
04-16-2014, 11:24 PM
Hey michaellane, I'll have to dig some up. I should have them by tomorrow. What are your interests?
pix tomorrow,
ace956

hispls
04-16-2014, 11:28 PM
Not much OS soundstream left out there I think. People around here think the flea market Chinese junk they put that brand name on today is great stuff.

ace956
04-16-2014, 11:43 PM
Hey hispls, I hear ya, I actually interviewed with the company that now owns Soundstream. I guess they weren't impressed because they never contacted me, ha ha. I noticed that they haven't produced any class A amplifiers. I'm actually getting quite a bit of interest on DIYMA. So hispls are you into car audio? what kind of stuff do you like?
Just here to help,
ace956

hert1028
04-17-2014, 12:58 AM
I had a soundstream 1000sx fixed by a guy that worked for soundstream. Wonder if you're him? This was around 2005... I think.

rickmandick
04-17-2014, 04:24 AM
I had a soundstream 1000sx fixed by a guy that worked for soundstream. Wonder if you're him? This was around 2005... I think.

It probably wasnt the same guy. I know jr was doing them back then and still is. He repaired dozens of OS SS amps for me in my time. I'm actually looking for one right now for my high's, mostly because I know the limits of pre China Rubicon and I can still get them fixed.

erod
04-17-2014, 06:43 AM
I got a soundstream reference amp os turns on protection how much to fix

michaellane
04-17-2014, 08:06 AM
Hey michaellane, I'll have to dig some up. I should have them by tomorrow. What are your interests?
pix tomorrow,
ace956

Just that youre who you say you are. Username and date with the pics would be nice

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I got a soundstream reference amp os turns on protection how much to fix

Lol wtf. Model number at the very least dude. You cant be serious

erod
04-17-2014, 09:57 AM
Wtf r u the ca.com police. Dnt worry bout me r u the one fixing it .feg go get a girl or a life

ScottWatkins
04-17-2014, 10:04 AM
I have an old Reference 200 that has never seen power!

rickmandick
04-17-2014, 01:18 PM
I had all these repaired by JR. They come back with new plugs, terminals and screws. Im not crapping on the dude's thread here, but I wouldnt send him any OS SS amps, broken or not.

http://i60.tinypic.com/mub0n.jpg

erod
04-17-2014, 02:37 PM
Was they alot to repair bro

rickmandick
04-17-2014, 03:05 PM
I dont recall them ever costing more then $100 w/ shipping for all of that, mostly $60-$80, but that was a few years ago. Seems he is still in business.

SACRAMANIAC916
04-18-2014, 05:50 AM
Hope you work on the old school USA series amps. I Got a 4ch that needs some love and attention.

akheathen
04-18-2014, 06:17 AM
hmm, i might jump in on this luvin....... got a 1000sx board? mine got board damage at the caps. may need a small pile of the plastic terminal shrouds. about 50% of the ones i get are chewed up by a 3/16" screw-driver, or worse. i really need a rear cover for one of my 500sx's..... maybe that was an s.... should be the same. mostly interested in doing some trading...... would like to see your stash first....... see if it's any bigger than mine, lol..... as for trade, i have a USA.364, probably the d200II, and who knows what else.... we'll see.

..... while i got your ear? what was the deal with the under-built power sections? they just don't handle any abuse. i'm beefing all mine up, when i get the chance.

Bass4Days
04-18-2014, 07:57 AM
I got a soundstream reference amp os turns on protection how much to fix

I got a Ford how much to fix it? LMAO

erod
04-18-2014, 12:35 PM
Another feg go **** off other dude

ace956
04-19-2014, 04:46 PM
Hey rickmandick,
Jaime at JR used to work for me. He now works ar inyel. I actually designed all the old Soundstream amps and my company manufactured them. All amplifier sections were designed to handle more current than the power supply could deliver. Thats why they could drive such low impedances. Anyway, I wish i had the amps you have. i had a bunch ofthose same amps in my car but somebody stoled them. I am now here to answer any questions, supply info, schematics and repair old soundstream amps. I only replace connectors if they are so damaged that they are unusable. If you ever need anything I'm here.

Thanks, ace956

ace956
04-19-2014, 04:50 PM
Hey erod, Did I give you a quote to repair an amp? what name was on the quote? if so, what model was it and what was wrong with it and how much was the quote? it might have been a little high because of the return freight.

ace956

ace956
04-19-2014, 05:03 PM
hey rickmandrick, I'm with you on the hearing thing. Not only did I have a mad car audio system, 2-15" subs with a real 1000 watts, 2-10" midbass, 4-5" mids, 4 tweets and a middle channel., but i am was a musician in the 60's, 70's and 80's. I have permanant ringing in my ears and my high end is gone. I follow after peter Townsend from the who. he is completely def in one ear. oh yeah, JR is not in business anymore. i bought most of his inventory. sorry I didn't get back to you sooner but my computer took a dump about 3 days ago. Right now I'm using an old laptop running iWndows Vista, uuuuh.

ace956

ace956
04-19-2014, 05:11 PM
het SACROMANIAC916, yeah I can frix those too, I also designed them. I'm gussing your here in Sacramento. I live in Orangevale. Tell me what model it is and what's wrong with it and i can give you a quote. you know the circuitry in the USA's is identical to what's in the Reference series just witha smaller power supply and more current limiting so it would only drive 4 and 2 ohms.

Thanks,
ace956

ace956
04-19-2014, 05:18 PM
erod, Ilove fords, i was a mechanic and used to repair alot of cars but my facories were always fords. I have an 89 SHO, Soundstream show car done for the CES show years ago. Whats wrong with yours, LOL. let me know what model you have and i'll give you a quote.

ace956

ace956
04-19-2014, 06:06 PM
Hey Scott,
That was a great amp. Why havn't you ever used it? Is there anything you would like to know about it?

ace956

audiobaun
04-19-2014, 07:21 PM
I have had several SStream amps over the years,.I picked up a USA 204 with box and specs, yet Im not getting any sound out of that joker.Havent opened it up as of yet.May consider a repair on it.Pm me a price for shipping both ways from my area,and the rest will be spoken about of course.I used to repair my own amps,but Ive now lost patience over the years.I do have an SA USA 80 sitting,had sever USA series 100/200,Agena amp on ebay is my old amp..Guys asking 3 timeswhat I sold it for..LOL..Lil Wonders,700s,500,300,Granite series 60.2, 120.4,Granite series components,Rubicons old school amps.Clean power.Excellent for SQ peoples

brian84corvette
04-19-2014, 07:44 PM
does this amp fall under the same catagory as old school sound stream ?
because ive seen the exact same amp labeled sound stream 303

audiobaun
04-19-2014, 07:48 PM
does this amp fall under the same catagory as old school sound stream ?
because ive seen the exact same amp labeled sound stream 303

Hell, Ive never seen one like that man..Looks like a collectors piece you have there for some collector.Kinda reminds me of the US amps old style.

ScottWatkins
04-19-2014, 09:11 PM
Hey Scott,
That was a great amp. Why havn't you ever used it? Is there anything you would like to know about it?

ace956
I just never got around to using the amp. I know something is only worth what someone is willing to pay, but what would be a fair price if I were to sell it?

Thanks.

audiobaun
04-19-2014, 10:30 PM
I just never got around to using the amp. I know something is only worth what someone is willing to pay, but what would be a fair price if I were to sell it?

Thanks.

Being mint,its prob worth approx. $130 in my opinion

audiobaun
04-19-2014, 10:32 PM
I just never got around to using the amp. I know something is only worth what someone is willing to pay, but what would be a fair price if I were to sell it?

Thanks.

Ive been dealing with amplifiers since 87/88 up to date new and used,buying and selling

rickmandick
04-21-2014, 01:48 AM
hey rickmandrick, I'm with you on the hearing thing. Not only did I have a mad car audio system, 2-15" subs with a real 1000 watts, 2-10" midbass, 4-5" mids, 4 tweets and a middle channel., but i am was a musician in the 60's, 70's and 80's. I have permanant ringing in my ears and my high end is gone. I follow after peter Townsend from the who. he is completely def in one ear. oh yeah, JR is not in business anymore. i bought most of his inventory. sorry I didn't get back to you sooner but my computer took a dump about 3 days ago. Right now I'm using an old laptop running iWndows Vista, uuuuh.

ace956 Yeah I have tinnitus too, the only thing that makes it go away is loud music. I saw Jr on another avenue as recently as last week, still selling his old SS parts. I have a strange question, but if you were responsible for the building and designing of those amps, why aren't you putting out your own amps for audiophiles? I know about china and major corporations, but I would think a market could exist..

ace956
04-21-2014, 05:28 PM
rickmandick,
interesting question. The company i owned that designede and built the Soundstreeam amps was oroganally a professional audio companynamed Stewart Elecrronics. We did products for other companies including Soundstream. Since I am an audiophile and like loud music, Soundstream was a natural. I had been screwing around with car stereo since the 60's. Since Stewart I have started 2 companies but had money problems both times. I also worked for other companies. now that I'm back in sacto. I figured I will do Soundstream repairs and eventually figured once the economy turns around or get funding, I will start a new car audio company. I want to do it but money is my current problem. What do you think of the name: ACELABS, or something like that, my long term goal is to make updated amplifiers of the quality I did only with new technology. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
ace956

michaellane
04-21-2014, 05:41 PM
Wtf r u the ca.com police. Dnt worry bout me r u the one fixing it .feg go get a girl or a life

You need a model number to even start determing your possible issues newb. Thats why your **** is broken feggot ausa 305 iisnt as much to fix as a refrence 1000s and both are older ss amps idiot. Reading> you

ace956
04-21-2014, 06:09 PM
Scott, I wish I could help you but I'm not that up on what that would be worth. Tha best I can offer would be to try and find people on here that might know its value or try a internet search. sorry.

ace956

momofx
04-22-2014, 02:30 AM
Ace, what do you think about the SS DTR1.3400D - D Tower amps? Just wondering on a pro opinion thats all :)

ace956
04-22-2014, 03:03 PM
Hello momofx,
I really don't know that much about that Soundstream amp. All I can do is compare them to the older Soundstream amps that I designed. I looked at the specs for that amp. First thing I noticed is there is no spec for frequency response. Class D amps use the speaker as part of the output filter, this can scew the response of the amp. The S/N is about -85dB, where the old amps were typically about -103dB, this is signifigant, and the distortion is 1% which is ten times the old amps at .1%. Without testing the DTR1.3400D-D this is the best I can do.

ace956

hert1028
04-25-2014, 03:52 PM
i am looking for a ss reference 500. anyone?

michaellane
04-25-2014, 08:57 PM
i am looking for a ss reference 500. anyone?

I got a ref 1000

diatribe
04-26-2014, 10:09 PM
ace956

Here is a shot of my Rubicon 1000-2. Can you tell me what the writing on the board means?

Does it mean it was Refurb'd or does every amp get tested before packaged?

http://cdn2.caraudio.com/2/2/6/7/2/RUB-2.jpg

90scaraudio
05-01-2014, 10:29 AM
Hi all.
So about 4 years ago Lance sent me just about all of his SoundStream parts. HUGE BOX! So if someone is in a desperate need for hard to find parts for the reference series, let me know so I can see if I can help.
About 10 years ago I purchased a broke Rubicon 1002, can't remember what I fixed on it but holy crap that thing had some power! I did sell it though and now wish I hadn't.
OK, I just purchase a RUB 1000-2 and I already know that all the electrolytic caps will be changed and I will upgrade the mosfets. The only thing I'm having a hard time finding is the 2SC3281 and 2SA1302 transistors in the final output. There seems to be a lot of fakes from china. I hope it does not need any but if it does, what would be a good source or a decent equivalent for the output pairs? Unless ACE956, you have them? just in-case I need them. I will be getting the amp next week.
OK, after some poking around, I guess one could use 2SC5200 and 2SA1943. The spec sheets look the same.
Mouser has them....
Thanks All

dannyi714
05-05-2014, 07:16 PM
Email sent..

iroller
05-06-2014, 02:25 AM
i have a davinic that needs the red tubes anyone got some ???

ace956
05-06-2014, 03:43 PM
Hello iroller,
I might have some of those lights. I will have to check and see if i have them. How many do you need?

ace956
05-06-2014, 05:58 PM
Hey diatribe,
I'm not sure. It trade show or sales demiolooks like it says demo2. If thats what it says It's probably either a production sample or a unit earmarked for a trade show or sales demo. Thats what I think it is. If there was something wrong with it it would have a different mark.
Thanks, ace956

smithee419
05-06-2014, 09:43 PM
Hi Ace, I have a Davinci a a few years ago channels 1-6 went out but the sub channel does work. I'm guessing a powersupply issue? I talked to Wade about getting it fixed before he went MIA, glad I waited. I would like to get this repaired and everything gone through, can you send me a quote. Thanks

buening
05-08-2014, 11:01 AM
smithee419, I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure ace956 is indeed Wade Stewart. It is the same username from DIYMA from a few years back.

Wade, I'd recommend explaining what happened a few years back on DIYMA before everyone starts sending you amplifiers again. Lot of people got burned in that ordeal.

For those that want the history: Soundstream Amplifier Repair - Car Audio | DiyMobileAudio.com | Car Stereo Forum (http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/industry-shop-talk/81211-soundstream-amplifier-repair.html)

ace956
05-08-2014, 02:13 PM
Hello 90scaraudio,
I saw your message about your rubicon 1000-2. The 2SC5200 and 2SA1943 are the correct replacements for the original transistors. If you need any help I may be able to answer your questions.
Thanks, ace956

Jes 42
05-10-2014, 03:38 PM
smithee419, I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure ace956 is indeed Wade Stewart. It is the same username from DIYMA from a few years back.

Wade, I'd recommend explaining what happened a few years back on DIYMA before everyone starts sending you amplifiers again. Lot of people got burned in that ordeal.

For those that want the history: Soundstream Amplifier Repair - Car Audio | DiyMobileAudio.com | Car Stereo Forum (http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/industry-shop-talk/81211-soundstream-amplifier-repair.html)

ace956 ; Care to explain?

ace956
05-10-2014, 09:22 PM
Hey smithee419,
I understand how you feel about what happened to my repair business. i wanted you to see my explanation first and get your feedback.

Hello everyone,
I am known on DIYMA as ace956. I have a long explanation about what happened to my soundstream repair business. My problem is it’s so complicated I’m afraid no one will believe it. But here goes.
In 2007 I started a new pro audio company named FATPRO Technologies. I had a partner that worked for me who owned 20% of the company. He was an employee of mine at Stewart Electronics The company I owned where all the Old School Soundstream amps and Stewart Electronics pro Audio products were designed and built. He was an engineer but worked doing schematics and board layout at Stewart. While at Fatpro he developed cancer and he was unemployed. By the way Kelly is also my wives name. I was paying him a small wage. Anyway he and his wife ‘DEBBIE’ moved in with me and my wife for free. Fatpro did well in 2008 but at the end of 2008 the bank cut our funding. In 2009 Fatprio was limping along.
In 2010 I started doing Soundstream repairs to supplement my income. In early 2011 the company that I had my email accounts and web hosting through raised there rates so I switched everything to Goddady. In April of 2011 I was contacted by an audio company on the east coast to go to work for them. I decided that it was a great deal. So I and my wife moved to New Jersey. Kelly and Debbie were still living in my house and they tried to help solve some of the problems.
When I got out there Godaddy wasn’t able to get my email or web site files from the first company who eventually became web.com. Now my website was down and I couldn’t get my email. Now here I am in New Jersey. I can’t access my email or get feedback from fatpro.com. I never cashed any checks until I completed a repair and returned the amp. I don’t know who was cashing those checks. I eventually had Godaddy start new email accounts for me in the end of 2011. I hated living in New Jersey so much after 60 years in California I pretty much went to work and that’s all.
The end result of all of this is my problem. I screwed up and I’m very sorry. If anyone has any questions or had any problem I hope they will contact me and I will make things right. I’ve always tried to do everything in my life right. Ever since I was a child I lived by the golden rule. "Always do unto others as you would have them do unto you”.
Thank you,
Wade Stewart

Jes 42
05-10-2014, 10:14 PM
Hey smithee419,
I understand how you feel about what happened to my repair business. i wanted you to see my explanation first and get your feedback.

Hello everyone,
I am known on DIYMA as ace956. I have a long explanation about what happened to my soundstream repair business. My problem is it’s so complicated I’m afraid no one will believe it. But here goes.
In 2007 I started a new pro audio company named FATPRO Technologies. I had a partner that worked for me who owned 20% of the company. He was an employee of mine at Stewart Electronics The company I owned where all the Old School Soundstream amps and Stewart Electronics pro Audio products were designed and built. He was an engineer but worked doing schematics and board layout at Stewart. While at Fatpro he developed cancer and he was unemployed. By the way Kelly is also my wives name. I was paying him a small wage. Anyway he and his wife ‘DEBBIE’ moved in with me and my wife for free. Fatpro did well in 2008 but at the end of 2008 the bank cut our funding. In 2009 Fatprio was limping along.
In 2010 I started doing Soundstream repairs to supplement my income. In early 2011 the company that I had my email accounts and web hosting through raised there rates so I switched everything to Goddady. In April of 2011 I was contacted by an audio company on the east coast to go to work for them. I decided that it was a great deal. So I and my wife moved to New Jersey. Kelly and Debbie were still living in my house and they tried to help solve some of the problems.
When I got out there Godaddy wasn’t able to get my email or web site files from the first company who eventually became web.com. Now my website was down and I couldn’t get my email. Now here I am in New Jersey. I can’t access my email or get feedback from fatpro.com. I never cashed any checks until I completed a repair and returned the amp. I don’t know who was cashing those checks. I eventually had Godaddy start new email accounts for me in the end of 2011. I hated living in New Jersey so much after 60 years in California I pretty much went to work and that’s all.
The end result of all of this is my problem. I screwed up and I’m very sorry. If anyone has any questions or had any problem I hope they will contact me and I will make things right. I’ve always tried to do everything in my life right. Ever since I was a child I lived by the golden rule. "Always do unto others as you would have them do unto you”.
Thank you,
Wade Stewart

Good luck..Just looked like a few mad ppl on Diyma.I'm sure it will get straightened out.

gentlejax
05-11-2014, 09:14 AM
Good luck..Just looked like a few mad ppl on Diyma.I'm sure it will get straightened out.



Im not so sure it was just a couple...

regardless...you ACE should have gone back to DIYMA and made it right with them....explained this to them and made sure nobody was still waiting on their amps.

Jes 42
05-11-2014, 01:49 PM
Im not so sure it was just a couple...

regardless...you ACE should have gone back to DIYMA and made it right with them....explained this to them and made sure nobody was still waiting on their amps.
You're right gentlejax ; I was being polite.You need to go straighten it out ace956 ;

ace956
05-12-2014, 11:47 PM
Hello smithee419,
Here is the final draft of my explanation on what happened when I was doing soundstream amp repairs in 2011.

Hello everyone,
I am known on DIYMA as ace956. I have a long story about what happened to my Soundstream repair business and explain my mysterious disappearance. It’s so incredible I’m afraid no one will believe it. But here goes.
In 2007 I started a new pro audio company called FATPRO Technologies. I had a partner that worked with me who owned 20% of the company. He was an employee of mine at Stewart Electronics where all the Old School Soundstream car amps, Soundstream home audio and Stewart Electronics pro Audio products were designed and built. He was an engineer doing schematics and board layout at Stewart. While at Fatpro he developed cancer and he was unemployed. By the way Kelly is also my wives name. He and his wife, the infamous ‘DEBBIE’ moved in with my wife and I. Fatpro did well in 2008 but at the end of 2008 the bank cut our funding. In 2009 Fatpro was limping along.
In 2010 I started doing Soundstream repairs. In early 2011 I switched my web hosting and emails to Goddady. In April of 2011 I was contacted by an audio company to work for them. I took the job but I had to be there in two weeks. I tried to finish any amplifiers I had before we left but I couldn’t finish all of them. My wife and I moved to New Jersey where my old computer crapped out. It would work for a few minutes and then shutdown. I got a new computer but somehow the backup hard drive had gotten completely erased. I said you’re not going to believe this. Kelly and Debbie were still living in my house rent free. They tried to help solve some of the problems, and for that I thank them.
When I got out there godaddy wasn’t able to get my email or web site files from web.com. Here I am in New Jersey, Totally stressing out, My computer doesn’t work, I lost my backup files, most of the information on who sent repairs is not on DIYMA, they were emails sent directly to me and I can’t access my email accounts or feedback from fatpro.com. I never cashed any checks until a repair was shipped to the customer. I don’t know who was cashing those checks. I eventually had Godaddy start new email accounts for me in the end of 2011 but I lost all old emails..
The end result of all of this is it’s my fault. I screwed up and I’m very sorry. If anyone has any questions or had any problems I hope they will contact me and I will make things right. I always tried to do everything in my life the right way. Ever since I was a child I lived by the golden rule. “Always do unto others as you would have them do unto you”
In my defense is I repaired over 30 amps and gave free help and information to people on DIYMA and other sites. There were only 6 people who complained on DIYMA, most of them got there equipment back. I did have trouble with one amp from 9mmmac. I replaced the input jacks with a jack that mounted outside. I kept finding problems with the amp and had to disassemble it over and over. Eventually the solder pads on the pc board became compromised. I should have used jacks that mounted from the inside, oh well live and learn.
You want to hear the real kicker. After 19 years my partner / ex girlfriend at Stewart Electronics where I was doing about 20 million dollars a year and talking with Jensen and Electrovoice about building there amplifiers. Trying to take over the company, my partner sued me claiming I was trying to destroy Stewart which would make her holdings worthless,. The judge kicked me out of Stewart and assigned a trustee to run the company. She and I fought it out in court and lost everything. Oh well, live and learn again.

Thank you,
Wade Stewart

ace956
05-15-2014, 06:24 PM
Hello iroller,
I have a friend that has the lights you are looking for. He bought them directly from Soundstream. If you send me an email at:
[email protected]
I will forward it to him and he will contact you at your email address.
Thanks,
ace956

ace956
05-15-2014, 06:26 PM
Hello iroller,
I have a friend that has the lights you are looking for. He bought them directly from Soundstream. If you send me an email at:
[email protected]
I will forward it to him and he will contact you at your email address.
Thanks,
ace956



i have a davinic that needs the red tubes anyone got some ???

envisionelec
05-28-2014, 10:10 AM
Hello smithee419,
I did have trouble with one amp from 9mmmac. I replaced the input jacks with a jack that mounted outside. I kept finding problems with the amp and had to disassemble it over and over. Eventually the solder pads on the pc board became compromised. I should have used jacks that mounted from the inside, oh well live and learn.
Thank you,
Wade Stewart


Trouble? That amp was a mess. I was able to fix it, but it was costly. You should invest in a better soldering iron and a jig that keeps the devices heatsinked outside of the chassis. That's how I was doing it. As I would tell folks that had sent their amps to you and been lucky to have them returned with varying degrees of repair success: Engineers don't make good technicians.

Wade, I'm glad you could own up to the problem. I know financial trouble in business, but making things right is never the wrong option.

I don't think starting a car audio company is good business. I've done several competitive analyses over the years and keep coming back to "not now". It was my dream for a long time. I networked with many of the car audio amplifier designers of the past and present; to have them in my pocket in case the opportunity arose. It never did.

Short term gains can be had on import goods, but building a thriving business on a few good products manufactured with long term reliability in mind is something that is gone, I'm afraid. The few people on internet forums do not represent the buying public; they represent the most diehard purists that dream big. But that's not reality.

envisionelec
05-28-2014, 10:15 AM
Hello iroller,
I have a friend that has the lights you are looking for. He bought them directly from Soundstream. If you send me an email at:
[email protected]
I will forward it to him and he will contact you at your email address.
Thanks,
ace956

I'm confused. If you've been thrown out of Stewart, then why do you have an email address with them? If that happened to me, I would ensure that the company name was never associated with me again.

ace956
05-30-2014, 01:10 PM
Invisionelec, I put twenty years of my life into that company and all I have left is the email address and the Taurus SHO we used as a demo vehicle at the CES show. I feel horrible about what happened! Please let me know what I can do to make things right.
About the subject on starting a company now. Yes I know that this is not a good time to try it. I have some ideas that I might try and get crowd funding for but other than that you are correct in your judgement about the economy. Other than that all I can say is I'm really sorry and I would give anything to make sure that it never happened. Did I send you a copy of the letter of explanation on what happened?

Thank you, Wade Stewart

ace956
05-30-2014, 01:18 PM
iroller, I checked with my friend and he doesn't want to deal with this sale. I am guessing you need two of the lamps. I have them now and can send them to you for $25.00 shipping included. Let me know what you want to do.
Thanks,
ace956, Wade Stewart

ace956
06-02-2014, 10:26 PM
SACRAMENTO916, I'm not sure weather i already answered this. I can probably repair your amp for $50.00 if your in Sacto. and theres no freight.
ace956

envisionelec
07-05-2014, 09:28 PM
It has come to my attention that Wade Stewart did not design the amps for Soundstream. I will reveal my source later, but this is coming from an engineer that worked for Soundstream from 1986 to 1997.

"I went to work for SoundStream as an engineer and had a hand in designing nearly all the car audio amps, soundstage equipment and home audio products, working for Wade Stewart at first and then for Donna Hass. Another misnomer is that Wade designed amplifiers. In fact, his engineers did that. Those engineers were Peter Bath, Steve Cullison, Kjell Steffensen, and myself.

To summarize, I know the history of all the SoundStream amps which were actually made by Stewart Electronics, and might be pertinent to this forum, and a lot of the history of high end audio in general. "

I got in touch with this person only recently. So it looks like either this guy is a liar or Wade is pretending to be more involved with the engineering of the amplifiers than he really is.

I will be getting as much information on Soundstream as I can to satisfy my curiosity and set some records straight.

Jes 42
07-05-2014, 11:24 PM
It has come to my attention that Wade Stewart did not design the amps for Soundstream. I will reveal my source later, but this is coming from an engineer that worked for Soundstream from 1986 to 1997.

"I went to work for SoundStream as an engineer and had a hand in designing nearly all the car audio amps, soundstage equipment and home audio products, working for Wade Stewart at first and then for Donna Hass. Another misnomer is that Wade designed amplifiers. In fact, his engineers did that. Those engineers were Peter Bath, Steve Cullison, Kjell Steffensen, and myself.

To summarize, I know the history of all the SoundStream amps which were actually made by Stewart Electronics, and might be pertinent to this forum, and a lot of the history of high end audio in general. "

I got in touch with this person only recently. So it looks like either this guy is a liar or Wade is pretending to be more involved with the engineering of the amplifiers than he really is.

I will be getting as much information on Soundstream as I can to satisfy my curiosity and set some records straight.

:thumbupw: Let the poo slangin begin. :thumbupw:

gentlejax
07-06-2014, 11:26 AM
Invisionelec, I put twenty years of my life into that company and all I have left is the email address and the Taurus SHO we used as a demo vehicle at the CES show. I feel horrible about what happened! Please let me know what I can do to make things right.
About the subject on starting a company now. Yes I know that this is not a good time to try it. I have some ideas that I might try and get crowd funding for but other than that you are correct in your judgement about the economy. Other than that all I can say is I'm really sorry and I would give anything to make sure that it never happened. Did I send you a copy of the letter of explanation on what happened?

Thank you, Wade Stewart

I'd love to see pics of that SHO...

gentlejax
07-06-2014, 11:28 AM
It has come to my attention that Wade Stewart did not design the amps for Soundstream. I will reveal my source later, but this is coming from an engineer that worked for Soundstream from 1986 to 1997.

"I went to work for SoundStream as an engineer and had a hand in designing nearly all the car audio amps, soundstage equipment and home audio products, working for Wade Stewart at first and then for Donna Hass. Another misnomer is that Wade designed amplifiers. In fact, his engineers did that. Those engineers were Peter Bath, Steve Cullison, Kjell Steffensen, and myself.

To summarize, I know the history of all the SoundStream amps which were actually made by Stewart Electronics, and might be pertinent to this forum, and a lot of the history of high end audio in general. "

I got in touch with this person only recently. So it looks like either this guy is a liar or Wade is pretending to be more involved with the engineering of the amplifiers than he really is.

I will be getting as much information on Soundstream as I can to satisfy my curiosity and set some records straight.



That's pretty big announcement

envisionelec
07-07-2014, 09:22 AM
The person I have been in contact with has requested that this post is deleted. I respect his wishes and have removed this entry.

Jes 42
07-07-2014, 11:06 PM
Dizam..Can't wait to see Wade's rebuttal..

ace956
07-09-2014, 01:22 AM
envisionelec, I'm not surprised that the gentleman you refered to did not want has statements published as they are all lies! I did work with the three engineers that you mentioned along with another engineer from Taiwan named Joseph Chow. I'm very curious who this person could be. SMH


The person I have been in contact with has requested that this post is deleted. I respect his wishes and have removed this entry.

Jes 42
07-09-2014, 02:01 AM
envisionelec, I'm not surprised that the gentleman you refered to did not want has statements published as they are all lies! I did work with the three engineers that you mentioned along with another engineer from Taiwan named Joseph Chow. I'm very curious who this person could be. SMH

Hmmm that does seem weird..Good luck.

ace956
07-09-2014, 02:35 AM
envisionelec, as long as this post is still here my reputation is being harmed. I demand to know who the person that says he worked as an engineer for me is!


It has come to my attention that Wade Stewart did not design the amps for Soundstream. I will reveal my source later, but this is coming from an engineer that worked for Soundstream from 1986 to 1997.

"I went to work for SoundStream as an engineer and had a hand in designing nearly all the car audio amps, soundstage equipment and home audio products, working for Wade Stewart at first and then for Donna Hass. Another misnomer is that Wade designed amplifiers. In fact, his engineers did that. Those engineers were Peter Bath, Steve Cullison, Kjell Steffensen, and myself.

To summarize, I know the history of all the SoundStream amps which were actually made by Stewart Electronics, and might be pertinent to this forum, and a lot of the history of high end audio in general. "

I got in touch with this person only recently. So it looks like either this guy is a liar or Wade is pretending to be more involved with the engineering of the amplifiers than he really is.

I will be getting as much information on Soundstream as I can to satisfy my curiosity and set some records straight.

gentlejax
07-09-2014, 07:09 AM
envisionelec, as long as this post is still here my reputation is being harmed. I demand to know who the person that says he worked as an engineer for me is!


just PM him or email him. you dont have to be silly and "demand" like a woman...

ace956
07-09-2014, 02:58 PM
gentlejax, I'm sorry. I thought that these aligations were made in an open forum that it was the best place to post my reply. Once again I'm sorry.

gentlejax
07-09-2014, 03:10 PM
gentlejax, I'm sorry. I thought that these aligations were made in an open forum that it was the best place to post my reply. Once again I'm sorry.


I'm just saying that you can ask in private and try to work that out and not make it ugly.

Not saying you don't have a right to know.

ace956
07-09-2014, 06:14 PM
Hello envisionelec, I found a post on DIYMA from someone named Troutsqueezer. In it he talked alot about ESS, Threshhold, Stewart Electronics and Soundstream. Troutsqueezers post on dIYMA led me to his web page. It's called Goldfinch Acres. On there I saw a picture of he and his wife. It looked alot like a draftsman that worked at Stewart Electronics named Dennis Berry and his wife Sally, who he met while she worked at Stewart. Then I noticed after a paragraph on that page, he signed it: -Dennis. Like I said he was a draftsman and that was what he did for Stewart, Soundstream and then Intel. If he had an EE degree I never heard about it.
So I don't need you to tell me who he is I found out on my own. Donna Haas hired An Engineering technician named Lance Matta, a Draftsman named Dennis Berry and Steve Cullison from Stewart. I had a feeling it was Dennis. I don't know why he would say what you claim he said. Troutsqueezer and your source is Dennis Berry

Here is a copy of Troutsqueezers post from DIYMA.

I'm not sure how much I will access this forum but I did run across some postings from it quite by accident. As luck would have it, the thread was about some audio history that I am intimate with, specifically, the audio company SoundStream and various amplifier engineers such as Wade Stewart and Nelson Pass. The information being passed on was slightly incorrect but not surprising since you would have needed to have been there to get it all straight. Not only was I there, but I was an integral part of the emerging high end home audio field as well as the emerging car audio field.

Some History:
I built my first audio amp at the age of thirteen. It was a kit from the local electronics outlet (yes, they sold kits then!) and was a 25W per ch. tube amp. From then on, I was hooked. That was 1963.

In 1970, I hooked up with a startup company called ESS which at the time stood for Electrostatic Sound Systems. There we produced high-end hybrid elecrostatic speaker systems. Later, the name was dropped but the acronym was kept after we were approached by Dr. Oscar Heil who had a revolutionary idea about a new tweeter. One which would squeeze the air rather than push it (like a cone does). This was 5 times more efficient and had great sound at a full 360 degree angle. From then on, ESS became famous for the Heil Air Motion Transformer speaker system.

I was also attending school at that time studying for my EE and hooked up in the R&D lab with a couple of young engineers there named Nelson Pass, who was in charge of speaker design and Peter Werback who was in charge of amplifier design. Other engineers floated in and out of ESS over the next few years including Bob Carver, of Carver Amps, Bob Bird from Altec Lansing and George Anderson. Also, an assistant to the president of ESS at that time was Donna Haas, later to become CEO of SoundStream after spending some time at Nakamichi. At Nakamichi, they purchased the brand name SoundStream. Previously, SoundStream became known as a developer of one of the first digital-to-vinyl recording processes and put out some of the first digitally-mastered LP's. After a few years, Pete Werback left and started his own car amplifier company called Linear Power in Auburn, CA. (he eventually married my ex-fiance Ruth, who ran the company after Pete was killed in an airplane crash). Then Nelson Pass left and started a high-end amplifier company in Sacramento called Threshold Corp along with Rene Besne and Joseph Samon (two ESS shareholders). I joined the Threshold team several weeks after they organized.

At Threshold Corp. many famous faces and names in the high-end audio industry floated by. Dan Diagastino (sales rep for awhile) and Joe Samon went on to start Krell. Some of the junior engineers went on to start Coda. Most of the journalists of the day became aquaintances, Audio magazine, Stereophile, Audio Amatuer. People like Ike Isensen of Tube or not Tube in San Diego, Mike Wright of Dayton-Wright fame, etc. With my help, Nelson published several how-to articles in these magazines, some of which caught the ire of Mark Levenson because our article detailed how to build pure class A amps that out-performed his very expensive jobs at just a fraction of the cost.

In fact, what caught my eye while surfing was someone in this forum stating that Nelson Pass designed the first SoundStream amp, the D50 I believe. In fact, Nelson assigned that task to one of his newly-hired junior engineer/technicians, Digger, from South Carolina. I don't think SoundStream ever did pay Nelson because he complained about it years later but then, that amp was a complete piece of junk. One of the worst I've ever seen.

Later, I went to work for SoundStream as an engineer and had a hand in designing nearly all the car audio amps, soundstage equipment and home audio products, working for Wade Stewart at first and then for Donna Hass. Another misnomer is that Wade designed amplifiers. In fact, his engineers did that. Those engineers were Peter Bath, Steve Cullison, Kjell Steffensen, and myself.

To summarize, I know the history of all the SoundStream amps which were actually made by Stewart Electronics, and might be pertinent to this forum, and a lot of the history of high end audio in general.

The best time I ever had was spending a few weeks with Oscar Heil (truly a mad scientist, his brother invented epitaxy) in his laboratory in Belmont, CA. helping him to develop the air motion woofer. I might elaborate on that later.

Also, I have designed sound systems back in the old days for Peter Frampton, The Almond Brothers, members of the Jefferson Airplane and for Steve Katz, then in charge of stadium sound for Bill Graham Presents.

Anyway, enough typing.

-Troutsqueezer.


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It has come to my attention that Wade Stewart did not design the amps for Soundstream. I will reveal my source later, but this is coming from an engineer that worked for Soundstream from 1986 to 1997.

"I went to work for SoundStream as an engineer and had a hand in designing nearly all the car audio amps, soundstage equipment and home audio products, working for Wade Stewart at first and then for Donna Hass. Another misnomer is that Wade designed amplifiers. In fact, his engineers did that. Those engineers were Peter Bath, Steve Cullison, Kjell Steffensen, and myself.

To summarize, I know the history of all the SoundStream amps which were actually made by Stewart Electronics, and might be pertinent to this forum, and a lot of the history of high end audio in general. "

I got in touch with this person only recently. So it looks like either this guy is a liar or Wade is pretending to be more involved with the engineering of the amplifiers than he really is.

I will be getting as much information on Soundstream as I can to satisfy my curiosity and set some records straight.

gentlejax
07-09-2014, 06:19 PM
hmmmmm

Jes 42
07-10-2014, 09:27 AM
:banghead::tomatofa::nutskick: The smacketh was laid down i say..lol

ace956
07-11-2014, 07:58 PM
It has come to my attention that Wade Stewart did not design the amps for Soundstream. I will reveal my source later, but this is coming from an engineer that worked for Soundstream from 1986 to 1997.

"I went to work for SoundStream as an engineer and had a hand in designing nearly all the car audio amps, soundstage equipment and home audio products, working for Wade Stewart at first and then for Donna Hass. Another misnomer is that Wade designed amplifiers. In fact, his engineers did that. Those engineers were Peter Bath, Steve Cullison, Kjell Steffensen, and myself.

To summarize, I know the history of all the SoundStream amps which were actually made by Stewart Electronics, and might be pertinent to this forum, and a lot of the history of high end audio in general. "

I got in touch with this person only recently. So it looks like either this guy is a liar or Wade is pretending to be more involved with the engineering of the amplifiers than he really is.

I will be getting as much information on Soundstream as I can to satisfy my curiosity and set some records straight.

envisionelec, I spoke to Dennis Berry and he admitted that it was him that you spoke with. He claims that he spoke with someone about high end audio and that what he said got all twisted around. When I asked about him saying he was hired as an engineer and that I never designed anything at Stewart or Soundstream, he didn't have much to say. He also told me that he doesn't have an EE degree. He worked as a Draftsman for Stewart, Soundstream and Intel. To say I never designed anything is unbelievable. I designed the packaging, the heat sinks For all of the Stewart and Soundstream products. When it comes to the Soundstream car amps I designed every power supply and every power amp along with all preamps and crossovers. I did work with Steve on the design of the front end drive circuitry for all power amps, so we wouldn't have to redesign the drive circuit for each amp. I also came up with the Hi Voltage, High Power concept and the ability for the amps to drive rediculously low impedances. Yes, I had other engineers there that I worked with but they mostly worked on the offline power amps. some times when I had a problem I couldn't resolve I would ask for there help. When it comes to the car amps I and my Technician Lance and Dennis my Draftsman did most of it. Theres more but we don't have enough time here.
thanks, Wade

Silkyslim
07-15-2014, 02:48 AM
I'm just saying that you can ask in private and try to work that out and not make it ugly.

Not saying you don't have a right to know.

Curious where was this response we he (envisionelec) put ace on blast for everyone to and not pm ace first? He publicly calls his reputation and work history out as a fraud from hear say and after it can't be erased you call out ace for protecting his rep. Wow.
I could see if this started out as a pm.

Silkyslim
07-15-2014, 03:12 AM
Mr. Ace I remembered this thread from a while back and dug out one of my old soundstreams rubi 5ch. I hooked it up and on two of the full range channels I had a bad oscillating volume issue. The other 2ch sounded great. I was a old ss ref fan. I was reminded why I liked them so much anyway. Does this sound like a major issue or maybe a setting? Thanks for your input and help.

Btw I would love to see some of your designs back on the market if they are anything like the old stuff. Such a smooth warm sound. Good luck I hope everything works out. It is a tuff time for many industries but the car audio industry has seen better days with SQ in my opinion.Not to say everything junk these days just tested a new amp that has surprised me. There is a loss of passion for sq and has just gone to convenience (almost disposable amps) and a race to zero.

gentlejax
07-15-2014, 07:30 AM
Curious where was this response we he (envisionelec) put ace on blast for everyone to and not pm ace first? He publicly calls his reputation and work history out as a fraud from hear say and after it can't be erased you call out ace for protecting his rep. Wow.
I could see if this started out as a pm.


I agree with you in a way...

I got caught in it just like others did. I had reason to think something was amiss since Wade had some serious problems on DIYMA and instead of going there and letting people know what was what and clearing it all up , he came here and tried to start over..the exact same way he did it over there. it left quite a lot of people pissed .

so maybe you were aware of that or not but his rep was already in bad shape because of his own doing.

so because he was so unwilling to be straight over there , when this popped up it was plausible and shocking.

had it not been for the problems in the past then most wouldnt have got caught in the bs that happened.

so yes your right...but...people including me had reason to have a different opinion

I appologize for not seeing things differently cause it was a persons rep on the line, perhaps if Wade had thought about his rep in the past on diyma then this would have never come up

Silkyslim
07-15-2014, 05:51 PM
I agree with you in a way...

I got caught in it just like others did. I had reason to think something was amiss since Wade had some serious problems on DIYMA and instead of going there and letting people know what was what and clearing it all up , he came here and tried to start over..the exact same way he did it over there. it left quite a lot of people pissed .

so maybe you were aware of that or not but his rep was already in bad shape because of his own doing.

so because he was so unwilling to be straight over there , when this popped up it was plausible and shocking.

had it not been for the problems in the past then most wouldnt have got caught in the bs that happened.

so yes your right...but...people including me had reason to have a different opinion

I appologize for not seeing things differently cause it was a persons rep on the line, perhaps if Wade had thought about his rep in the past on diyma then this would have never come up

I gotcha that makes more sense? I wonder how I missed that on diyma I'm over there much more than here. I am glad he cleared it up. I guess that is a draw back of forums especially with those who are older and those just learning how forums work doesn't help.

envisionelec
07-16-2014, 10:15 AM
Ok, I screwed up. The as GentleJax said, it was a response to ace956's utter lack of "making it right". What I initially posted from the goldfinch acres blog was public realm information. In discussions with Dennis, I was led to believe that Wade was merely a figurehead. Obviously, I was fed a line of BS. Because ace956 had not been forthright about the situation at DIYMA, it seemed plausible.
There seems to be no way to validate the claims between these individuals and I refuse to contact anyone else about it.

Simple question: Wade/ace956, are you going to tell people where their amps are or not?