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GuysIGotThis
04-16-2014, 08:02 PM
Evening gents, I'm not a complete noob when it comes to car audio but I'll admit I'm not the most knowledgeable. I priced out a system with RF T165-S and posted on this forum but it appears that wasn't a good choice for speakers so I'm back to the drawing board.

I have a 2007 Civic EX it has 4 6.5 speakers, tweeters in the front, and a 8" mid range bass.
My budget is 1500 but my deck is eating up around 500 of that.

So I did some more research and these speakers look like a descent price for quality. db6501 - Car | Polk AudioŽ (http://www.polkaudio.com/products/db6501)

So my questions are:
1. Does anyone know if these speakers are good or can throw in their two cents about which ones I should get?

2. What do you think about my deck choice? It seems risky to get a no name deck I know but I really don't feel like spending 1000 on a deck. (Because this one comes with the deck install kit and steering wheel adapter, about 300 in value)
3G Wifi 1080P Indash Radio DVD GPS Navigation Stereo FOR Honda CIVIC 2006 2011 | eBay (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/3G-Wifi-1080P-Indash-Radio-DVD-GPS-Navigation-Stereo-for-Honda-Civic-2006-2011-/191001287394?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c78905ae2&vxp=mtr)

3. I have two alpine type R subs, but should I throw in a midrange sub in there as well? Or possible a mid range speaker?

I really hope I'm posting this in the right thread.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Stay classy :)

mylows10
04-16-2014, 08:42 PM
The speakers are ok. My wife had the 5 1/4 set. The deck is junk. Not worth the money. Use the type R's. No other sub there is better for your money to. You'll need to amp the subs and speakers and also deaden and seal the doors

GuysIGotThis
04-16-2014, 09:24 PM
Thanks for the quick reply :) Do you know any better speakers for the same price? And thanks for the advice on the deck :)

Edit: Would you suggest I use your pioneer avhx 5500 dvd? Because that's around the same price :)

Dmac1991
04-16-2014, 09:27 PM
CDT Audio CL 61 6 5" 160W RMS 2 Way Component Speakers Mids Crossovers Tweeters 093207311680 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/CDT-AUDIO-CL-61-6-5-160W-RMS-2-WAY-COMPONENT-SPEAKERS-MIDS-CROSSOVERS-TWEETERS-/121195131710?pt=Car_Speakers&hash=item1c37caf33e&vxp=mtr)

GuysIGotThis
04-16-2014, 10:34 PM
I should mention that I'm from Canada so I can't just shop at Wal mart for stuff :(

hispls
04-16-2014, 10:46 PM
Polk hasn't made really good speakers since the 80's. JBL MS-62C 6.5" MS Component Car Speakers System (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_45048_JBL-MS-62C.html)

May be able to shop around and get those JBL's for less. They are really nice for the money.

NEVER buy an off-brand head unit. Stick to Alpine, Pioneer, JVC, Kenwood, or even Jensen. The no-name brands and PPI/ Power Acoustic/Soundstream (all the same with different brand names) are garbage. Don't be a hero here and try to prove me wrong thinking you'll be the one to find a real diamond in the rough. I assure you, you will NOT want to deal with the hassle of returning it, especially from Canada when it performs too poorly to even use or fails prematurely.

There's no reason you can't shop around online and find a year or two old model from a reliable brand for short money. For the most part a 2 year old head unit isn't missing much from one that just came out this year.

GuysIGotThis
04-16-2014, 11:12 PM
Okay I'll check out those speakers. Thank you :)

I think for the head unit I will be going http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AVH-X5500BHS-Multimedia-Motorized-Touchscreen/dp/B00A02KOHM

Also, which speakers do I run in the back if I go with those JBL's? Because I know now that I shouldn't do separate tweeters in the back.

bradl79
04-16-2014, 11:50 PM
i had a pair of the rockfords and they sounded pretty good, the polks i believe would have bright tweets, the rockfords sounded good, i did get rid of them and go the CDT's mentioned above and i love them, it was a good upgrade and for the cost of those is a great price. depends on ur budget i would go for the ES or HD series, i am sure Jim has some good CDT's available

michaellane
04-17-2014, 12:13 AM
Thanks for the quick reply :) Do you know any better speakers for the same price? And thanks for the advice on the deck :)

Edit: Would you suggest I use your pioneer avhx 5500 dvd? Because that's around the same price :)

get a kenwood deck the 898 model or whatever their new line is. get one of the top ones. they are cheap. the speakers aren't bad but not awesome either. run a amp on them and you will be happy. the subs are nice so keep them. no need to upgrade which wouldn't make too much of a difference without doing other upgrades also

GuysIGotThis
04-17-2014, 08:47 AM
The kenwood does look pretty nice, but I really want a double din deck so I think I'll stick with that pioneer one. Can you guys explain how I should do the rear speakers? I notice most people put in mid range subs or full range speakers but I really don't know which ones I should put in. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be throwing in these speakers in the front. JBL MS-62C 6.5" MS Component Car Speakers System (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_45048_JBL-MS-62C.html?keyword=miniHiFiSave&utm_source=ebayenterprise&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=EEAN&source=ebayenterprise&publisherId=21181&clickId=893353578)

GuysIGotThis
04-18-2014, 11:21 AM
Pretty please?

trumpet
04-18-2014, 11:25 AM
JBL MS-62C is discontinued. We may still be able to get 2 sets, last time I checked with my JBL supplier that was all they had left between 3 warehouses. CDT CL-61 is available now for a limited time at $149.99 with a free warranty upgrade. We have speaker adapters in stock for your vehicle. CL-61 2-Way Component System | Easy Way Electronics (http://store.513electronics.com/cl-61-2-way-component-system/)

Coaxials for the rear: CL-6EX 6.5" Coaxial Speakers | Easy Way Electronics (http://store.513electronics.com/cl-6ex-6-5-coaxial-speakers/)

GuysIGotThis
04-18-2014, 05:09 PM
What type of amp do you suggest for those speakers? The p900.4?

hispls
04-18-2014, 06:53 PM
JBL MS-62C is discontinued. We may still be able to get 2 sets, last time I checked with my JBL supplier that was all they had left between 3 warehouses. CDT CL-61 is available now for a limited time at $149.99 with a free warranty upgrade. We have speaker adapters in stock for your vehicle. CL-61 2-Way Component System | Easy Way Electronics (http://store.513electronics.com/cl-61-2-way-component-system/)

Coaxials for the rear: CL-6EX 6.5" Coaxial Speakers | Easy Way Electronics (http://store.513electronics.com/cl-6ex-6-5-coaxial-speakers/)


I got some from this guy here ^^^ to use in a friend's truck. I was impressed and this friend is about as ignorant as it comes with abusing equipment and hasn't broken them yet so that says a lot for them.

I personally avoid putting speakers in the rear. Invest that money into deadening and proper locations in the front.

trumpet
04-18-2014, 07:17 PM
What type of amp do you suggest for those speakers? The p900.4?

P900.4 is my go-to amp, but my supplier is out of stock temporarily. I also have PPI BK800.4, but that is a closeout model and I have only 1 left. I don't expect you to have any issues with either amp, but replacing the BK800.4 would involve substituting for a different amp.

GuysIGotThis
04-19-2014, 02:47 PM
Invest that money into deadening and proper locations in the front.

I don't mind deadening my car but I really want to avoid drilling into my door panels. I was just going to leave it in the stock location. The speakers are in the bottom of my door panels and the tweeters are in the top corner of the dash. http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchfield.com/ImageHandler/scale/489/489/ca/learningcenter/articles/3102/tweeter.jpg

hispls
04-20-2014, 03:41 AM
I don't mind deadening my car but I really want to avoid drilling into my door panels. I was just going to leave it in the stock location. The speakers are in the bottom of my door panels and the tweeters are in the top corner of the dash. http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchfield.com/ImageHandler/scale/489/489/ca/learningcenter/articles/3102/tweeter.jpg

Those are terrible locations for tweeters. I'd highly recommend getting some q-logic kickpanels if they make them for your make/model car. Throw mids and tweets in the kicks and if you want throw some more mids or dedicated midbass in the doors with some deadening. Some good kick locations for the fronts will be a much better return for your investment (in sound and imaging) than loading up every factory hole with speakers.

Cliff459
04-20-2014, 01:55 PM
Those are terrible locations for tweeters. I'd highly recommend getting some q-logic kickpanels if they make them for your make/model car. Throw mids and tweets in the kicks and if you want throw some more mids or dedicated midbass in the doors with some deadening. Some good kick locations for the fronts will be a much better return for your investment (in sound and imaging) than loading up every factory hole with speakers.

+1 to this comment, oh so true! My friend just put some low cost JL components in the kick panel of his 2010 Ford Ranger and it was the best investment he made in his whole system yet. It really improved the imaging doing this, stuff just jumps out at you now when you're listening!

GuysIGotThis
04-20-2014, 03:39 PM
I didn't even know something like that existed. I can't seem to find any for my 2007 civic though :(

hispls
04-20-2014, 06:05 PM
I didn't even know something like that existed. I can't seem to find any for my 2007 civic though :(

***** to be you. They only go as new as 05 for the civic it seems. Sadly it doesn't look like they're really supporting a lot of new stuff at all which is a shame because they work and look great and even at MSRP are probably less money than having something with comparable looks built custom.

GuysIGotThis
04-22-2014, 05:17 PM
Sigh... **** my newer civic! So then I have a new question. Since my stock tweeter location is horrid would I just be better off to put in 6.5" Coaxial speakers all way round? Just forget about the separate tweeters all together? I would be sticking with these CL-6EX 6.5" Coaxial Speakers | Easy Way Electronics (http://store.513electronics.com/cl-6ex-6-5-coaxial-speakers/)