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slvrado28z
03-26-2014, 11:30 AM
right now I have 4 rf prime 3 way 6.5 in each door powered by a alpine 240. the amp is rated at 40rmsX4 @ 4ohm and 50rmsX4@ 2ohm...they get loud just not loud enough to keep up with my death row 15s..im looking at the cadence cwm6kit and been hearing good things about them and I can work with that price. just wanna hear some amp/speaker options. thanks

mylows10
03-26-2014, 11:32 AM
You need more power to. Not just the speakers you might consider a pa set up

slvrado28z
03-26-2014, 11:44 AM
You need more power to. Not just the speakers you might consider a pa set up

well how much power you talking about and whats a pa set up

mylows10
03-26-2014, 11:49 AM
Pro audio set up running active. In gonna be doing 1000 rms to my fronts. Hopefully it will keep up with my tantric hdd 15s. But I'm running 10k in power to. So I'm doing 2. 3 way sets in each door. And tweets and 2" Mids in the a pillars

shauncox26
03-26-2014, 11:55 AM
^^^^Oooo that's sick 1000 front stage.

mylows10
03-26-2014, 12:01 PM
^^^^Oooo that's sick 1000 front stage.

Yep I'm loving it so far but not enough speakers yet. I only have 1. 3 way set so far and. It's on a vfl 350.4 bridged But gains are set for about 300 rms per side

slvrado28z
03-26-2014, 12:47 PM
what if I just get the cadence and get a 100x4 amp? it wouldn't be louder or keep up with the subs?

mylows10
03-26-2014, 12:48 PM
Prolly won't keep up with the subs

slvrado28z
03-26-2014, 01:19 PM
Prolly won't keep up with the subs

well what do you recommend?
I was looking at the 6.5 sound qubed and the super tweeter..you think those in the front would be good?

mylows10
03-26-2014, 01:21 PM
well what do you recommend?
I was looking at the 6.5 sound qubed and the super tweeter..you think those in the front would be good?

They would. But you need more power. At 600 rms should be good. With at least 2-3 Mids in each door and 2 tweets in each door

slvrado28z
03-26-2014, 02:21 PM
They would. But you need more power. At 600 rms should be good. With at least 2-3 Mids in each door and 2 tweets in each door

what if I just get a mid for each door and a tweeter and put in all 4 doors front and back in stock location and get a more powerfull amp? It wouldn't be good enough?

mylows10
03-26-2014, 02:26 PM
I doubt it the subs will completely drown out the back speakers

slvrado28z
03-26-2014, 07:54 PM
I doubt it the subs will completely drown out the back speakers

im about to order 2 sets of mids and tweerers. whay amp do you recommend I need something undr 200$

Da64u
03-26-2014, 08:30 PM
im about to order 2 sets of mids and tweerers. whay amp do you recommend I need something undr 200$


Precision Power PPI P900.4 Phantom Series 4-Channel Amplifier (p9004) (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_38338_Precision-Power-PPI-P900.4.html)

Popwarhomie
03-26-2014, 08:31 PM
im about to order 2 sets of mids and tweerers. whay amp do you recommend I need something undr 200$


PPI 800.4 or 900.4

I have an 800.4 powering 6 6.5"s and 4 3" super tweeters. I love it

Jes 42
03-26-2014, 08:35 PM
Grab ya 4 of these:
PWX 6.5" mid range - Crescendo Audio Factory Direct Online Store (http://store.crescendoaudio.com/pwx-6-5-mid-range/)

mylows10
03-26-2014, 10:07 PM
im about to order 2 sets of mids and tweerers. whay amp do you recommend I need something undr 200$

Decent choice. For the money

mlstrass
03-27-2014, 02:45 AM
OP what is your substage, how loud is it?

AQ PA mids/tweets can get very loud. My son runs 2 6.5's/1 tweeter per door. Single 18 that does a 51+ and he keeps up no problem. PPI900.4 for mids and small 2ch for tweeters...

erod
03-27-2014, 06:41 AM
U can try beyma they super loud

slvrado28z
03-28-2014, 02:08 PM
OP what is your substage, how loud is it?

AQ PA mids/tweets can get very loud. My son runs 2 6.5's/1 tweeter per door. Single 18 that does a 51+ and he keeps up no problem. PPI900.4 for mids and small 2ch for tweeters...

I have 2 ia death row 15s run off a t2500bdcp

NASTY08IMPALA
03-28-2014, 02:12 PM
well what do you recommend?
I was looking at the 6.5 sound qubed and the super tweeter..you think those in the front would be good?

I love my sq pa stuff i run 4 of the 6.5s one in each front door and 2 in the rear with a pair of sq supertweets on a ppi bk800.4 and it more than keeps up with my 2 hdc4 12s on aq3500.1

slvrado28z
03-28-2014, 02:23 PM
I love my sq pa stuff i run 4 of the 6.5s one in each front door and 2 in the rear with a pair of sq supertweets on a ppi bk800.4 and it more than keeps up with my 2 hdc4 12s on aq3500.1

im thinking about running 2 in each door up front and 1 tweeter...and leave the rear alone..think I would be alright..i was going to get the bx800.4 also

NASTY08IMPALA
03-28-2014, 02:40 PM
im thinking about running 2 in each door up front and 1 tweeter...and leave the rear alone..think I would be alright..i was going to get the bx800.4 also

That would work fine and be plenty loud ...play with the crossovers and get the sound u want ...they can sound really good if crossed over correct ...most ppl who dog pa is bc they heard a poorly crossed setup..i have the tweets crossed at 3.5k and the mids at 100..make sure u deaden the doors real well or they will sound hollow empty and lack midbass..and that ppi bk 800.4 is awesome .no complaints

hispls
03-28-2014, 05:16 PM
They would. But you need more power. At 600 rms should be good. With at least 2-3 Mids in each door and 2 tweets in each door

Implying that 400W won't cut it for him but 600W will be fine? Is this part of your sales pitch or you do really imply that 1.3dB is going to be dramatic?

mylows10
03-28-2014, 05:24 PM
Implying that 400W won't cut it for him but 600W will be fine? Is this part of your sales pitch or you do really imply that 1.3dB is going to be dramatic?

No sales pitch quit being a jerk to while your at it I just don't see 400 watts keeping up with a pair of 15s on 2500 rms 600 will be better. But it may not do it either he needs more cone area for the most part .no one trying to sell anything here. So either be constructive or just don't say anything. Sorry op

hispls
03-29-2014, 01:36 AM
No sales pitch quit being a jerk to while your at it I just don't see 400 watts keeping up with a pair of 15s on 2500 rms 600 will be better. But it may not do it either he needs more cone area for the most part .no one trying to sell anything here. So either be constructive or just don't say anything. Sorry op

Just look at your own post history, at least 85% of your posts are a sales pitch, another 10% is on threads like this where OP is bound to ask "any suggestions?" then the sales pitch, and about 5% is useful. Glad you support the site by paying to be a vendor, but spamming every single thread like this is getting old.

And to clarify, my point is that a 50% increase in power is less than 1.5dB which is just slightly over what is the threshhold of being noticeably louder. I'd go as far as to say if 400W isn't "keeping up" jumping up to 800W won't be any magic either especially if he is pushing things into compression and taxing his electrical system. You need to do some acutal critical listening and see what 1 or 1.5dB difference really sounds like if you honestly think you're being helpful telling OP that a larger amp will help him.

The best and most cost effective way to add noticable output from that power level would be adding more cone area, looking into more efficient speakers or even horns, or focusing on some better locations for the components.

mylows10
03-29-2014, 01:43 AM
Just look at your own post history, at least 85% of your posts are a sales pitch, another 10% is on threads like this where OP is bound to ask "any suggestions?" then the sales pitch, and about 5% is useful. Glad you support the site by paying to be a vendor, but spamming every single thread like this is getting old.

And to clarify, my point is that a 50% increase in power is less than 1.5dB which is just slightly over what is the threshhold of being noticeably louder. I'd go as far as to say if 400W isn't "keeping up" jumping up to 800W won't be any magic either especially if he is pushing things into compression and taxing his electrical system. You need to do some acutal critical listening and see what 1 or 1.5dB difference really sounds like if you honestly think you're being helpful telling OP that a larger amp will help him.

The best and most cost effective way to add noticable output from that power level would be adding more cone area, looking into more efficient speakers or even horns, or focusing on some better locations for the components.

I believe I did say that If you actually would read. Instead of trolling everywhere you post

rc10mike
03-29-2014, 01:46 AM
Just get about 10 tweeters, you wont be able to hear the mid-bass anyway...lol