PDA

View Full Version : Time for new components



sstumpf
02-22-2014, 10:25 AM
Well its time for some new components up front. One of my diamond d6 blew. So What would be something comparable to the D661's I need a 6 1/2" speaker. I will be running off of this amp http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...o-D6600.4.html
I just want something as good as the D6's that will sound loud and clear. Also what is the difference between aluminum and silk tweeters? I have the aluminum right now. Thanks for your help.

trumpet
02-22-2014, 12:05 PM
When you have a choice between aluminum and silk tweeters, like Diamond gives you, the aluminum tweeter is probably going to sound brighter and more aggressive than the silk tweeter. That's the most simple way to describe it. I prefer a metal dome tweeter, when it's done well, because I think it sounds more like real music. That depends on good quality recordings as well.

Do you have a budget? Are you going to make new mounts?

sstumpf
02-22-2014, 02:37 PM
Would like to use same mounting holes in a 02 silverado. Fronts take 6.5" speakers and the mounting whole is just under 6".

As for budget, Nothing too much maybe a couple hundred. But I do want quality.

mylows10
02-22-2014, 02:44 PM
Quality will run at least $250 +

sstumpf
02-22-2014, 02:50 PM
Yes I realize that. I am just needing something that is close to the D6's I may be able to find someone with some used D6's. What about the Diamond Hex set? I found a use set for $140.

http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/component-coaxial-speakers/165216-diamond-hex-6-5-comonent-set-140-shipped.html

vibe
02-22-2014, 02:57 PM
id go cdt or phd.

Hjames710
02-22-2014, 03:27 PM
I'd stick with Diamond since you have a diamond amp, might as well keep it the same brand.
WoofersEtc.com - D663A - Diamond Audio 6.5" 2-Way Convertible Component Speakers System with Aluminum Tweeters (http://www.woofersetc.com/p-10498-d663a-diamond-audio-65-2-way-convertible-component-speakers-system-with-aluminum-tweeters.aspx)

sstumpf
02-22-2014, 05:14 PM
Yes, I would like to stick with diamond. Always have liked them, And im running a D6 amp anyway. Those D663A look good. Might go with those if I cant find a good deal on something used. What do you guys think about those Diamond Hex?

whitedragon551
02-22-2014, 06:24 PM
id go cdt or phd.

Diamond Hex will crush anything those 2 brands could ever dream of offering. Those are just simply nut hugged brands.

---------- Post added at 06:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:23 PM ----------


Yes, I would like to stick with diamond. Always have liked them, And im running a D6 amp anyway. Those D663A look good. Might go with those if I cant find a good deal on something used. What do you guys think about those Diamond Hex?

The letter at the end of the model number designates tweeter material. It will either be an A or S. A for aluminum S for silk.

timhof13
02-22-2014, 06:28 PM
Tantric comps are great also

sstumpf
02-22-2014, 06:48 PM
Yup I know what the a and s stand for. Well those Hex's are sold. So I guess im looking for some D6's. Any other diamond sets worth getting?

trumpet
02-22-2014, 07:01 PM
Yup I know what the a and s stand for. Well those Hex's are sold. So I guess im looking for some D6's. Any other diamond sets worth getting?

We may have Diamond SXP65S still available at the price shown here: Diamond Audio SXP65S | Easy Way Electronics (http://store.513electronics.com/diamond-audio-sxp65s/)

customaudioman
02-22-2014, 07:05 PM
Ground Zero GZUC 650SQ components are the best components under the $600 range. Ive used a lot of high sq components. They retail for $399.
have killer adjustments on their crossovers. GZUC 650SQ (http://www.groundzerousa.com/gzuc-650sq.html)

sstumpf
02-22-2014, 07:11 PM
We may have Diamond SXP65S still available at the price shown here: Diamond Audio SXP65S | Easy Way Electronics (http://store.513electronics.com/diamond-audio-sxp65s/)

cool, How do these compare to the D661's?

customaudioman
02-22-2014, 07:12 PM
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/customaudioman/Audio%20picture/20140109_221622_zps4fab31f7.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/customaudioman/Audio%20picture/20140109_221653_zps5bdac785.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/customaudioman/Audio%20picture/20140109_221605_zps5db58cb4.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/customaudioman/Audio%20picture/20140109_221549_zps8f3765f6.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/customaudioman/Audio%20picture/20140109_221535_zps985268a8.jpg

trumpet
02-22-2014, 07:18 PM
cool, How do these compare to the D661's?

They're a bit different, but you're going to have a hard time finding the same set for under $200 new.

sstumpf
02-22-2014, 07:51 PM
Ok, what different about them, Just as good quality. Should be since they are diamond. Are they louder? Crisper? I just looking for a clear crisp set with some midbass.

sstumpf
02-22-2014, 11:25 PM
Also I have heard good things about these Amazon.com: Alpine SPR-60C 6.5" Car Audio Component System (Pair): Car Electronics (http://www.amazon.com/Alpine-SPR-60C-Audio-Component-System/dp/B004VBIEZW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1393129425&sr=8-1&keywords=Alpine+SPR-60C)

Ive never had any experience with the type r's though.

I also found this list

Best 6.5" Component Car Speakers 2014 | Review, Compare & Buy (http://caraudionow.com/best-6-5-component-car-speakers/)

trumpet
02-23-2014, 11:56 AM
Ok, what different about them, Just as good quality. Should be since they are diamond. Are they louder? Crisper? I just looking for a clear crisp set with some midbass.

What you described is vague. I would have to hear both the same set you have and the set I linked in the same situation off the same power with the same tune to give just a subjective comparison. Since Diamond doesn't publish full specs online or in their catalog I can't even compare sensitivity to guess if SXP65S might sound louder on your amplifier. Given what I've heard from the TX65V cheaper convertible set I would expect SXP65S to sound very natural, and the midbass should be stronger since the woofer is a more substantial design.

sstumpf
02-23-2014, 12:07 PM
Ok, well im sure they would be a decent set. My D6 sensitivity is 90dB but not sure about the sxp65s. Im more worried about them being really clear at higher volumes.

Has anyone heard about the Alpine type R's SPR 60c? I am seeing them recommended everywhere.

trumpet
02-23-2014, 12:25 PM
Ok, well im sure they would be a decent set. My D6 sensitivity is 90dB but not sure about the sxp65s. Im more worried about them being really clear at higher volumes.

Any standard 6.5" 2-way component set is going to fall apart at high volume, from a number of factors. I'm sure you found a limit with your D661A set. If you want a louder set it may be necessary to step up to a 3-way. Alpine SPR60C is not going to give you what you want. At this point I'm not convinced the Diamond set I have is going to satisfy you either.

sstumpf
02-23-2014, 12:39 PM
Well, I have been running this set of Diamond D6's since, 2008 in the same truck. They have always been great, One just ended up blowing and I cant find another set. So all I am wanting is something comparable to the D661a's They have done great for many years.

Gioss
02-23-2014, 08:25 PM
I have a silverado and have been running some Massive CK6's with a massive D8004 amp and they have sounded fantastic for about 5 years now. I just bought an S-10 and need a set of components and was thinking of changing up, how would those Diamonds compare with the Massive's?

sstumpf
02-23-2014, 09:01 PM
Not sure how they compare, But I love the diamonds. Just hard to find the D6's and not really sure what the new ones are like. The hex's are twice the power than the D6's that I have, seems like diamond doesn't make something like the D6 anymore. So not sure what to do.

Are these the ones you have been running Massive Audio CK 6X 500 w 6 5" 2 Way Component Coaxial Speaker System 6 1 2" 623169621093 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Massive-Audio-CK-6X-500-W-6-5-2-Way-Component-Coaxial-Speaker-System-6-1-2-/181317390130?pt=Car_Speakers&hash=item2a375bcf32&vxp=mtr)

How much power RMS does that amp put out? Are these Loud and clear? They seem like they compare well to what I have now, Except I have aluminum tweets and these are silk.

Brandon@GZUSA
02-24-2014, 12:00 AM
Diamond of today is not to be confused with diamond of old, I've been told. Old school diamond was **** fine products. From what retailers are saying, the quality has really fallin off.

The GZUC 650SQ that was posted have been well received and are making themselves a niche in the market place. You'd be crazy not to consider them. They're the real deal.

DARKHART
02-24-2014, 12:23 AM
We were a Diamond dealer and once the company changed hands we went from having maybe a 1-100 failure rate to nearly a 60% failure rate on identical setups, needlessly to say we dropped them.....I will say this though, I had a customer from out of state come in to replace one of his blown components and we replaced the set with some Access 1's, he had a pair of the new Diamond 12's in a custom box and that thing did sound really good...

supereikenator
02-24-2014, 12:34 AM
Look at the JBL MS-62C, absolutely great for the price.

sstumpf
02-24-2014, 08:58 AM
Ok, well sounds like I dont want the new diamonds. Didnt know about all that.

Well How much would a set of those Ground Zeros run me?

I have been hearing about the JBL's Are they a speakers thats loud and crisp at high volume?

sstumpf
02-24-2014, 09:12 AM
has anyone heard of these? Amazon.com: West Coast Customs WCC-650 6.5 Car Speakers: Car Electronics (http://www.amazon.com/West-Coast-Customs-WCC-650-Speakers/dp/B004MF1FM6#productDetails)

I heard that they are a rebrand of the diamond D662's, but they seem kind of cheap. How do the D662's compare to the D661's?

disturbed471985
02-24-2014, 09:51 AM
has anyone heard of these? Amazon.com: West Coast Customs WCC-650 6.5 Car Speakers: Car Electronics (http://www.amazon.com/West-Coast-Customs-WCC-650-Speakers/dp/B004MF1FM6#productDetails)

I heard that they are a rebrand of the diamond D662's, but they seem kind of cheap. How do the D662's compare to the D661's?

WCC is pure garbage.

Brandon@GZUSA
02-24-2014, 09:55 AM
Msrp on the GZUC 650SQ set is 399.00
Contact Customcarauiodman for pricing, he is a retailer of ours.

sstumpf
02-24-2014, 10:20 AM
Ok, Cool. I have found something else though. I found a set of these brand new on craigslist. Diamond Audio D661i 6-1/2" D6 Series 2-way Car Speakers (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_5356_Diamond-Audio-D661i.html)
I know that is is a coax set. But the mids and highs look the same as my D661a component set. So could I buy this set and use the Mid and tweeter on my crossover? The specs on these speakers look the same, just without the crossover. The speakers look iditical. But one says D661 and the other says d661x does that mean there is a built in crossover and it wont work with my component set?

customaudioman
02-24-2014, 01:54 PM
They should have built in crossovers unless they come with separate ones which I doubt.

sstumpf
02-24-2014, 03:48 PM
So they won't work with my setup?

customaudioman
02-24-2014, 08:00 PM
If they are coax like you state then no.

sstumpf
02-24-2014, 10:16 PM
Diamond Audio D6661 Component Speakers System D661X in Box | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/161233912701?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

I did find these, Do you guys think its worth it? Or to much of a gamble.

Gioss
02-25-2014, 08:43 AM
sstumpf- The massive amp is putting out 120 watts per channel RMS, I am running those CK6's on 2 channels not bridged and a pair of JL12w3's with a Massive D3600, and let me tell you the stuff Bangs loud and clear, no distortion real smooth. I had never used them and took a chance, boy am I happy. I just bought the same amps to set up in my S-10 ext cab, I have 2 10" Alpine Type S already and was looking to see if I should get a different set of components for the front. At this point I am probably going to go with the Massives. Their amps are small and seem well crafted, I have been rocking the same set up without touching it for about 4 years, 2 trips to sturgis and not even a hiccup from the amps, I like my music pretty loud (not extreme) and I listen to all sorts of music, from heavy metal to rap to house music and it all sounds good.
Just wanted to give you an option if you cant Find brand new speakers in the price range you are looking for.

sstumpf
02-25-2014, 12:26 PM
I have checked into the CK6's, They look to be a good set. I would only be giving them 75w RMS though. They are rated for 100w, Just like the diamonds that I was running.

sstumpf
02-26-2014, 08:47 AM
The guy that is selling the D661i's Said that it is a coax set, but the tweeter can be removed and the crossovers can be removed as well.

sstumpf
02-26-2014, 03:14 PM
Well im not sure what to go with, Just to many options. How would the massive CK6's run on my diamond 75w rms amp?

Gioss
02-26-2014, 08:40 PM
I think they would handle it real good, the speakers are good between 55 and 130watts rms, you would have room to pump more power into them and no fear of blowing them. if you have spacing issues in the door, they also have a slim series Massive Audio SK 6 II - Slim Component Massive Audio (http://massiveaudio.com/products/sk-slim-series/sk-6-ii-slim-component-speakers/) that would be more in line with the wattage you are running 40-100watts rms. After I measure my openings I will buy either the CK or the SK.

WhatsAminiTruck
02-26-2014, 08:53 PM
I absolutely love my sundown SA-6.5 component sets. They are getting about 100w each and love it.

sstumpf
02-26-2014, 08:54 PM
ok, I will have to measure my openings. These massive's might just work, Just haven't heard much on them. Just want to make sure I am getting a component set with great sound quality. has anyone else used them?

Gioss
02-26-2014, 10:18 PM
I have been spending my money on stereo equipment since the 80s and the old soundstream amps, high end at the time, with Alpine D drive separates in the 90s into the early 2000's when it was the old PPI stuff I put in my 96 Impala SS which still have rocking the mid end MBQuarts seperates. Now its the Massives and let me tell you they bang with the clarity I enjoy. What got me was that their stuff was not a lot of money, and really good quality materials, both the D class amps and the speakers with absolutely no overheating issues. I now have 5 of their amps. At the price point I think I would be hard pressed to find something like these. Just my opinion. my cars are on http://www.cardomain.com/search/?key=gioss Oh and I just stumbled onto the massive stuff and took a chance buying it, i couldnt be happier.

fish1234
03-02-2014, 12:15 PM
I have my D662.A components for 6 yrs going and never have I been impressed with the natural crispness of this set. Midbass will be very articulate. Door deadening must be done to really enhance this feature. I did upgrade my tweeters to the HEX aluminum and have been happy with that as well. Power with good, clean amplifier and enjoy. I think these are a great set, if you can find them.

sstumpf
03-02-2014, 12:32 PM
I did find a set of D661a like I have now. So I think I will go ahead and buy those tomorrow.