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tat2bass
01-26-2014, 10:12 AM
So I am finally getting around to doing it. The part I am most proid of with my build, is that I have not paid for anything. Everything has come by way or trading or selling or as payment for doing installs. So nothing has actually com out of my pocket.

Car- 2012 Toyota Prius C (I know it's a ****** car, but I drive 150 miles a day round trip out of pocket. I had a 2013 Ford cMax but had to trade it in because it was only getting about 32 mpg instead of the 47 advertised)
Head unit- http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_63988_Pioneer-DEH-X9500BHS.html
Front speakers- Tweeters and crossoversAlpine SPX-17PRO (spx17pro) 6.5" 2-Way Type-X Component Car Audio (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_10648_Alpine-SPX-17PRO.html?SearchClickout%5Bquery_id%5D=17873241&SearchClickout%5BIgnore%5D=1)
Mids- http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_43386_Rockford-Fosgate-PPS4-6.html
Rear- None
Highs amp- Rockford P-400X.4 400 Watt Punch Four Chan Stereo Bridgeable Car Amp (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_67768_Rockford-Fosgate-P400X4.html?SearchClickout%5Bquery_id%5D=17873318&SearchClickout%5BIgnore%5D=1)
Sub Amp- not decided yet. Only gonna run about 700 w or so
Sub- Alpine SWR8D4 8" Dual 4-Ohm Type R Series Car Subwoofer (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_72376_Alpine-SWR-8D4.html)

So I am going mainly for SQ here. But it will still be pretty **** loud. Not crazy bass, but I'm a metal man and would rather hear every detail than ridiculous amounts of bass.

A LOT of sound deadener will be going into this little car. They come with nothing from the factory. So I have 80sq feet of AT 60 mil already and will be getting another 40 of the nvx 80 mil. Most everything will be done this coming week. I had a discectomy last week so I'm out of work for a while. Probably shouldn't be doing this but I'll be taking it easy. I'm going stir crazy already and this way I can completely tear the car down and do everything the right way all I one fell swoop.

tat2bass
01-26-2014, 10:22 AM
http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r546/tat2bass/image_zps8e8a00af.jpg


And all done. I used duct tape to seal the hole up first and then applied the deadener over that.

http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r546/tat2bass/image_zpsd0bb7b84.jpg

tat2bass
01-26-2014, 10:27 AM
It work out perfect that I could take apart the stock speaker and use it for the new. It works perfect for 3 reasons

1. The speaker for perfectly inside of it and is sealed perfect to the "adapter"
2. With it having a neo motor it has a much more shallow depth so the water guard for the stock speaker also covers the new mid bass so I don't have to make anything myself.
3. The one good thing Toyota did was make the speaker actually seal to the door card behind the grill. So I don't have to worry about any sound waves or reverberations getting behind the door card. With the new speaker it also flushes against it perfect.

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tat2bass
01-26-2014, 10:30 AM
That's it for now. Like I said, everything else should be coming in over the next couple days so I will be updating as I go. I will be stripping the car completely down starting tomorrow.

Luckily to, the battery is under the back passenger seat so I have short power runs and everything stays within the can

jackreacher
01-27-2014, 12:42 PM
Wow man i am also going to have new audio system in my Accord soon cos am getting sick of previous do let me know hows you and tell all details..

tat2bass
01-27-2014, 08:42 PM
So today I got my a pillars done and my mids wired up and ready to be installed. The connections for the tweets were soldered. My first attempt at it on my own. Feel i did a pretty decent job on it.

So after I mounted them flush, I wired it up and taped along the back side to be sure that there is no pressure being applied where the wire actually connects to the tweeter.

I started by using a jigsaw and cutting out the holes and finished the holes with my dremel to get the just right. After I mounted the cup in I used a hot glue gun and glued the inside so they won't move.

Pics

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tat2bass
01-27-2014, 08:44 PM
This is the speaker wire I am using. Amazing stuff and very well shielded. Hard to see but the pic on the roll shows all the layers

http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r546/tat2bass/image_zpsb463faee.jpg

My soldering. Again, my first attempt on my own.

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tat2bass
01-27-2014, 08:46 PM
Everything has been soldered and heat shrunk.

http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r546/tat2bass/image_zps7c3e235c.jpg

Here is what it looks like from the front of the car

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tat2bass
01-27-2014, 08:51 PM
The crossovers will be mounted upside down in my glove box. This way all of my wires for my mids and tweets will stay under the front dash and only have to run the two wires back to the amp.

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Pic so the back of the a pillar and how it looks from my seat.

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Pic of the mid all soldered and heat shrunk as well

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Freeman
01-27-2014, 08:58 PM
sxy Prius.

tat2bass
01-27-2014, 09:02 PM
sxy Prius.

Like I said. Don't have much of a choice when you drive 150 miles a day.

tat2bass
01-27-2014, 09:12 PM
Tomorrow I will be pulling out the seats and finish my passenger door deadening and the floor. Just waiting on my new headunit, amp and amp kit to come in throughout the week also

bmk6795
01-27-2014, 09:38 PM
Nice job on those pillars, after seeing what you did with a dremel and jig saw I think I may give it a shot in my girls car. Her tweets are in the door panels facing towards the headliner. Doesnt sound to pleasant.

tat2bass
01-27-2014, 09:58 PM
Nice job on those pillars, after seeing what you did with a dremel and jig saw I think I may give it a shot in my girls car. Her tweets are in the door panels facing towards the headliner. Doesnt sound to pleasant.

It's pretty easy. I made the big cut with the jigsaw and then just took my time with the sander on my dremel. Sand a little and then hold up the tweet mount and sand a little more. The plastic actually cuts very easily.

Depends on the tweets too. Mine have great off axis response so I can get away with them being there

Freeman
01-27-2014, 10:01 PM
Like I said. Don't have much of a choice when you drive 150 miles a day.

and i'm serious the c's are the ones i like.

tat2bass
01-28-2014, 09:10 PM
So I made pretty good progress on her today. Gutted the front cabin. Took out the front seats and the carpet which was fairly easy. Was hard for me because I could barely lift the seats. Keep in mind I had a discectomy less than 2 weeks ago. I shouldn't even be doing any of this right now, but I have the time and want it done. I applied 2 layers to the whole floor and 3 under the drivers floor and passenger front floor. Still need to do under the passenger seat.

I also got the mids mounted in the doors the wire ran. Was a huge pain the *** because the runner grommet for the wires going into the door is tiny and my wire is huge. It's about as thick as running a cheap 0 gauge. I had to redo the drivers door. I fucked up and forgot to zip tie the wire down to something to keep it out of the way and when I rolled the window down to check everything out it ripped it right out of the speaker. I was pissed, but it was my negligence.

Anyways on to the pics

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Going to be upgrading this tomorrow. It is like 12 gauge wire. Gonna run 0 gauge to it.

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tat2bass
01-28-2014, 09:18 PM
Look what came in tonight!!! My headunit, dash kit and amp kit were all supposed to come in tonight also but for some reason didn't. These thing is awesome. Very heavy for it size and typically RF fashion it is seriously under rated. It's only rated for 100 per channel at 2 but instead comes in at 150. This will be bridged to my Alpine SPX17PRO's and mounted under the passenger seat. This works perfect because there is an air duct that will blow right on it to keep it cool

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Birth sheet
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So I'm not 100% sure but I think this is to set the gains on it. The amp comes with both input and output clipping indicators. So it works great. I can get my max headunit output and amp output without having to borrow or buy an oscope. Will probably use one when at work one day anyways just to double check, but this will work for now
http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r546/tat2bass/image_zps7984b62b.jpg

It's not as big as I thought it would be for being class AB and putting out the power it does
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tat2bass
01-29-2014, 10:35 AM
So I decided to change out the mids.

When I first got the Alpines I checked them very thoroughly and found a small tear in the surround of one of the mids. It is about an inch long. I'm sure the guy I bought them from didn't know it was there as it is only visible when the cone is pushed in and the surround stretched.

The second issue was after I ran the wire and got the speaker all wired up and heat shrunk, the negative terminal on the mid without the tear broke off. I used some JB weld and super glue and put it back on.

But I just decided to replace them now and be done with it. So I'm replacing the mids with the set below. They have nice specs and really good reviews. They will do what I want just fine. Will still be using the crossovers and Alpine tweets. Should get nice and loud and still sound good doing it. Can't wait to get them in. Will be posting the Alpine mids for sale very soon

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_43386_Rockford-Fosgate-PPS4-6.html

Milk Mayne
01-29-2014, 11:20 AM
I had the same problem with the connectors breaking off my Type-X mids after installing/uninstalling a few times in different vehicles. Should've tried to fix them instead of chuck them, I loved the way they sounded. Great build, keep up the good work. I like the A pillars, never would've thought it would look that good without any glass work.

tat2bass
01-29-2014, 11:24 AM
I had the same problem with the connectors breaking off my Type-X mids after installing/uninstalling a few times in different vehicles. Should've tried to fix them instead of chuck them, I loved the way they sounded. Great build, keep up the good work. I like the A pillars, never would've thought it would look that good without any glass work.

I was going to glass them and then figured I would try this first and see how they look and if I didn't like them then I could just glass over them. Glad I did because it saved me a lot of work

tat2bass
01-30-2014, 02:34 PM
So yesterday I got in my headunit and wiring kit. I will start by saying that I am very impressed with the wiring kit. Great value for the price. Nice thick wire and I love that on the power wire they put tech flex on the area that would normally be in the engine bay. The ends are also heat shrunk. The speaker wire is nice and thick. It says 16 gauge but I had to use the 12 gauge setting on my site strippers. The power and ground are 4 gauge and is the same thickness as my knukonceptz 4 gauge. The fuse holder is nice and heavy as well. It comes with a 100 amp mini anl fuse.

The pioneer headunit is very nice also. Absolutely beautiful. Such a classy and smooth finish to it. The only better looking units to me are the pio d9 and the p99. I didn't get this stuff in the mail until 3 and had all the wire ran and headunit in by 5 and didn't have time to play with it. I will play with it some this afternoon and start getting into it and checking the features. So far it seems the same as the 80prs minus being active capable, doing time alignment and displaying vehicle voltage.

Today I will be cleaning up the wires. Just wanted yesterday to hook everything up and test it all.

I am LOVING the design on the Rockford 400x4. The Cd that you can use to set the gains is awesome. And I have the amp sitting now and could put on music and crank it till I get input clipping which is the headunit on 61 out of 62. Then turn my gains up till it turns blue and voila. I can switch between files and see the difference in the quality as one song may not clip and a certain gain level and the next might just a little. I will be doing a thorough review on it for sure.

tat2bass
01-30-2014, 02:39 PM
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Upgraded my ground wire from the battery. I only had one black and one red heat shrink that would fit
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tat2bass
01-30-2014, 10:18 PM
So need some help. I got the rockford pro audio mids in today and hooked them up using the alpine crossovers. Now whenever I turn it up to about 2/3 max volume the speakers start crackling and breaking up and going in and out. I know the crossovers work and all my wiring is good because I had the alpine mids hooked up and were working not even an hour before. My question is what would cause this? Can you not use pro audio mids with a regular passive crossover? I wouldn't see why not. Like I said, the alpine mids were handling it just fine all the way up to 61/62 and gains set correctly

Side Show
01-30-2014, 10:23 PM
keep an eye on your crossovers in the glovebox, I wouldn't have mounted them upside down tis all (heat distribution)

Side Show
01-30-2014, 10:27 PM
also you shouldn't run other speakers on a passive crossover unless they were built to be used with that crossover.

tat2bass
01-31-2014, 02:41 PM
Ok, so weirdest thing I think I have seen in all my years installing car audio.

Yesterday when I put the rockford pro mids in I would get them starting to break up and the whole set (tweeters included) would cut in and out. The weird thing was I got an alarm on my dash that said "warning, place car in park and check hybrid system immediately". I tried putting the car into drive and it wouldn't move and kept telling me to put it in park and check the hybrid system. It was also causing every warning light on my dash to come on minus the low tire pressure light.

So I check the hybrid battery which is mounted under the rear seats next to the 12v bat and everything looks fine. So it was late and I didn't feel like messing with it last night so I put it off til this morning.

So this morning I go out and turn the car on and turn the radio up and I get the same crap going on. So I go and pull out the Rockford mids and put back in the Alpine mids.

I go and turn my car on and EVERYTHING WAS NORMAL!!! Seriously wtf!?!? How could putting in a different set of mids on a passive crossover cause my entire car to go to **** and not drive or anything. I have never seen anything like it before.

Does anyone have any idea what could possibly cause this? I was looking forward to using these mids. If you haven't heard them before they are awesome. A shop near my house had some and I went in there one day just browsing and listened to them and loved them and the tweets. If I hadn't gotten such a great deal on my Alpines I would have went with a set of them.

tat2bass
01-31-2014, 02:42 PM
keep an eye on your crossovers in the glovebox, I wouldn't have mounted them upside down tis all (heat distribution)

Mounted them upside down wouldn't have any bearing on heat distribution only issue might be because they are in a closed area but I think they'll be ok.

tat2bass
01-31-2014, 03:16 PM
Got nearly everything done today. Just waiting on my dash kit and antenna adapter to finish up. I'll be adding subs down the line but not sure when.

Did up the wiring harness. Used gold plated connectors for everything. Not cheap but work great. I didn't bother connecting any of the speaker wires since I'm using an amp. Everything was zip tied together every 3 inches or less. Used a lot more behind the dash to keep it all very clean. Hopefully I never have to undo it all.

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tat2bass
01-31-2014, 03:22 PM
Here it is all finished. I placed the fuse holder where I did so that if it ever blows a fuse, I can easily access it and change it out. It is a perfect fit under the seat. Another cm of width and it wouldn't have fit. If you look to the top you can see where the air duct comes and blows right on it. Being in California I use my AC very frequently and never really have to use heat so it'll keep it nice and cool during the summer and my long drives

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How it looks from the back seat with the seat all the forward. When it is in its normal position you can't even see it. I'll take a clearer photo later
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