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Austinw88
11-05-2013, 11:53 PM
Item(s) for Sale:
Belva BB5000D

BB Series Monoblock Class D Car Amplifier
RMS Power Rating:
4 ohms: 1200 watts x 1 chan.
2 ohms: 1800 watts x 1 chan.
1 ohm: 3000 watts x 1 chan.
Max power output: 5000 watts x 1 chan.
Pulse Width Modulated MOSFET power supply
Wired remote bass level control included
LED power (green) and protect (red) indicators
Variable Bass Boost (0 to +12 dB bass boost adjustable between 30-80 Hz)
Preamp RCA outputs to daisy chain multiple amps
3-way protection circuitry (thermal, overload, and speaker short protection)
Heavy duty aluminum alloy heat-sink
Input sensitivity:
Low level: 100mV-6mV
Variable low-pass filter (40-180 Hz, 12 dB/octave)
Subsonic filter (12 dB variable from 20Hz - 50 Hz)
Frequency response: 20-30,000 Hz
200-240 Amp in-line fuse required, see our selection of recommended fuse holders
Depending on operating impedance, 1/0 or 4 gauge power and ground wiring is required for installation. Contact us for information regarding a discount on select amplifier kits from our website when purchased together with this amplifier.
Dimensions: 20-3/8"W x 8-1/4"D x 2-1/4"H


Belva BB5000D 3000W RMS BB Series Class D Monoblock Car Amplifier (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_65813_Belva-BB5000D.html)




Item(s) Description/Condition:
Great condition but is missing 1 set screw for speaker terminal
I have the og box, manual and bass knob



Price:
225 Shipped



Shipping and Miscellaneous Item Information:
on me



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shauncox26
11-05-2013, 11:57 PM
Anyone know what they really do? Heard mixed reviews. O Glws man not to thread jack. May be interested if I see nice numbers on the bench.

cfox10
11-06-2013, 12:17 AM
Gut shots?

nutxo
11-06-2013, 12:18 AM
Gut shots?

heres one


Belva BB5000D??? - FloridaSPL (http://www.floridaspl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26690)

cfox10
11-06-2013, 12:35 AM
glws

bgowdy31
11-06-2013, 12:36 AM
This is a rebadged RE XTX5000.1, the RE was rated 2500rms @ 1ohm. These are actually really 2k-2.5. im thinking it will do about 2k-2.5k clean, but idk about the 3k. Even if she only does 2k clean thats still a d@mn good deal at $225 shipped IMO.

GLWS op

shauncox26
11-06-2013, 12:44 AM
Any trades op?

Austinw88
11-06-2013, 12:58 AM
sorry guys, phone didn't tell me I had replies, Yes trades will be considered shauncox26; I have seen a couple clamps on youtube of it doing 2k at 2ohm but no one that I know of has put a scope on it to see how clean it was. I do know its got some power for the guts looking so weak pushed my spl 18 very good and the gain was set low.

Austinw88
11-06-2013, 01:01 AM
This is a rebadged RE XTX5000.1, the RE was rated 2500rms @ 1ohm. These are actually really 2k-2.5. im thinking it will do about 2k-2.5k clean, but idk about the 3k. Even if she only does 2k clean thats still a d@mn good deal at $225 shipped IMO.

GLWS op

Thanks man, Yeah I'm not sure how clean it is, Like I said clamped on youtube at a little under 2k@2 but I haven't personally clamped it myself but I was impressed for the price.

Austinw88
11-06-2013, 01:03 AM
This is @2ohms on 11.47 volts also this is NOT MY TEST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pobl9wnw38Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pobl9wnw38Q

Jeffdachef
11-06-2013, 01:11 AM
These are very nice budget power amps. They do very well on low voltages! I had an experiment with my friend that has one of these. We switched amps for a day and tested them out. We found that my hifonics brx2400 loses a lot of output when its put in my friends car with voltages 13.6v dropping to 12.4V, and this belva amp actually made good power with those low voltages and even numbers better on my car's 14.4v stable charging system.

jteske88
11-06-2013, 12:53 PM
trade for at 800.1 with knob plus cash?

bgowdy31
11-06-2013, 04:14 PM
These are very nice budget power amps. They do very well on low voltages! I had an experiment with my friend that has one of these. We switched amps for a day and tested them out. We found that my hifonics brx2400 loses a lot of output when its put in my friends car with voltages 13.6v dropping to 12.4V, and this belva amp actually made good power with those low voltages and even numbers better on my car's 14.4v stable charging system.


Since you know alittle bit about them, do you know if they will run .5 ohm nominal(before rise and voltage drop) on decent electrical. i know i would be above 1ohm after rise and i have pretty good electrical as well.

Jeffdachef
11-06-2013, 05:47 PM
Since you know alittle bit about them, do you know if they will run .5 ohm nominal(before rise and voltage drop) on decent electrical. i know i would be above 1ohm after rise and i have pretty good electrical as well.

we havent tried low ohm loads yet so i cant really answer that question for you. The most we got was 1 ohms rising to 2.12 and it ran cool.

bgowdy31
11-06-2013, 05:56 PM
we havent tried low ohm loads yet so i cant really answer that question for you. The most we got was 1 ohms rising to 2.12 and it ran cool.

did you actually clamp the amp?

Jeffdachef
11-06-2013, 08:40 PM
did you actually clamp the amp?

yes we did, but it was with a cheap ebay clamp meter so it most likely is not that accurate. On my vehicle's electricals we got 1883 rising to 2.12 ohms with voltage drop to 14.2. Waves checked out good on the DS nano.

shauncox26
11-06-2013, 08:48 PM
So they pretty much snake rated anyone got a clamp at almost 1ohm.

Jeffdachef
11-06-2013, 08:57 PM
you can try to look for clamps of the RE audio amp that this was rebadged after. I remember it being not as efficient at lower ohms drop so for sure this aint gonna do anywhere near 3k.

bgowdy31
11-06-2013, 09:31 PM
yes we did, but it was with a cheap ebay clamp meter so it most likely is not that accurate. On my vehicle's electricals we got 1883 rising to 2.12 ohms with voltage drop to 14.2. Waves checked out good on the DS nano.

You know idk how accurate that is but thats pretty good numbers, think about it. The amp is only rated 1800rms @ 2ohm, and at 2.12 it did 1883.... hm even if it was at 14.2v. The RE amp is rated 2500 @ 1ohm. so ive said since ive seen it that i say it should about 2500

bgowdy31
11-06-2013, 09:40 PM
TaylorFade; did you ever clamp one of these?

shauncox26
11-06-2013, 09:51 PM
If not he should. I want to hop on this so bad, just to see what it's about. Wife will kill me though if I buy anything else.

bgowdy31
11-06-2013, 10:12 PM
If not he should. I want to hop on this so bad, just to see what it's about. Wife will kill me though if I buy anything else.

ive seen some talk but no real "reliable" clamp tests. i mean for this price even if it only did 2k that would be a good deal. But again the guy above from his test got 1883 @ 2.12ohms. The amps only rated 1800 @ 2ohm. But he said he dont know how accurate it is because its a EBAY clamp meter

Jeffdachef
11-06-2013, 10:15 PM
yup, unless its fluke clamp or an amp dyno, i dont trust those numbers myself lol. It did outperform my hifonics by a bit though. If op wants i'll trade my brx2400.1D for it :D

shauncox26
11-06-2013, 10:16 PM
Yup but for this price I can strap two shark audio 2.5ks for more power. Decisions decisions!

bgowdy31
11-06-2013, 11:56 PM
yup, unless its fluke clamp or an amp dyno, i dont trust those numbers myself lol. It did outperform my hifonics by a bit though. If op wants i'll trade my brx2400.1D for it :D

im looking for a decent 3k amp myself, i have a apsm2k and i was going to get another strap and dial the gain down to like 3k between the 2 on 2 Obsidian 18 v2 d2's. Im a cheap @ss lol, so i dont want to over spend. I know the apsm's wont do rated clean but i think they will do about 3k between the 2. But if i could trade it for something plus cash i would tho

---------- Post added at 10:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:55 PM ----------


Yup but for this price I can strap two shark audio 2.5ks for more power. Decisions decisions!

watch tho, those amps wont do the rated power clean, they WILL MAKE ALOT, but clean is another story, im in the same boat with my apsm

Austinw88
11-07-2013, 12:46 AM
trade for at 800.1 with knob plus cash?

Really don't have any use for a 800.1 man, Thanks for the offer tho!

Austinw88
11-07-2013, 12:48 AM
yup, unless its fluke clamp or an amp dyno, i dont trust those numbers myself lol. It did outperform my hifonics by a bit though. If op wants i'll trade my brx2400.1D for it :D

Gonna have to pass on the brx man, love them amps but really need the cash, trades would really have to excite me to make it happen ..

bgowdy31
11-07-2013, 12:49 AM
Really don't have any use for a 800.1 man, Thanks for the offer tho!

what are you looking for trade wise anyway?

Austinw88
11-07-2013, 12:51 AM
what are you looking for trade wise anyway?

pm sent..

Spooney
11-07-2013, 04:31 PM
pm sent..

Curious about trades too.

vibe
11-07-2013, 04:37 PM
so the guy who posted earlier about the brx 2400 you think this is a better amp than the brutus 2400?

Austinw88
11-07-2013, 10:35 PM
so the guy who posted earlier about the brx 2400 you think this is a better amp than the brutus 2400?
jeffdachef; whats you're thoughts on this. I personally cant say never ran a brutus?

Jeffdachef
11-07-2013, 11:36 PM
jeffdachef; whats you're thoughts on this. I personally cant say never ran a brutus?
i'd got with the belva over the brutus personally, power is very similar but if you have voltages that are around 12-13.8 volts then the belva would be better since they dont really mind low voltages.

Brutus amps pretty much require 14.4 volts to make rated power, anything less then there's a good decline in power.

Austinw88
11-08-2013, 12:10 AM
so the guy who posted earlier about the brx 2400 you think this is a better amp than the brutus 2400?
vibe; from the man himself

i'd got with the belva over the brutus personally, power is very similar but if you have voltages that are around 12-13.8 volts then the belva would be better since they dont really mind low voltages.

Brutus amps pretty much require 14.4 volts to make rated power, anything less then there's a good decline in power.

thanks for the input man!!

Austinw88
11-08-2013, 04:33 AM
will also trade for a decent laptop..

vibe
11-08-2013, 05:10 PM
i'd got with the belva over the brutus personally, power is very similar but if you have voltages that are around 12-13.8 volts then the belva would be better since they dont really mind low voltages.

Brutus amps pretty much require 14.4 volts to make rated power, anything less then there's a good decline in power.

i look at it this way though if your trying to push that much power you need a good recharging system anyways and the brutus is cea certified thats the reason i went with it. god that thing is power house too. fucked my hand up cutting through the 0 gauge for it but it was worth it. that thing puts out alot of power and im running it at 2 ohms right now for the next month till i get new subs

Jeffdachef
11-08-2013, 10:22 PM
i look at it this way though if your trying to push that much power you need a good recharging system anyways and the brutus is cea certified thats the reason i went with it. god that thing is power house too. fucked my hand up cutting through the 0 gauge for it but it was worth it. that thing puts out alot of power and im running it at 2 ohms right now for the next month till i get new subs

you have one misconception bro. CEA certified only means it does power at 4 ohms, it says NOTHING about it doing 2 or 1 ohms rated. Because Efficiency comes into play. When running that much power at 1 ohm, you do not base your decisions upon CEA certified logo, you have to get products that are proven. I've ran into many CEA certified amps that could do a **** sh*t near their 1 ohm rated claim cleanly on the oscope AKA most of those CEA compliant KAC kenwoods.

remember, I'm running the BRX 2400 and i know for sure the belva is a better amp all around by a slight bit. However, hifonics has a better resale value since people know about the name. So yeah the brx is a good stepping stone amp until you get something of better quality like a sundown, rockford tbcp, soundqubed, digital designs, incriminators etc. But if you dont ever plan on buying another amp, then the belva's a better choice performance wise. The bass just sounds better on it to be honest.

Anyways, its your money, as long as your happy with your purchase. Just wanted to get some facts and misconceptions out of the way.

bgowdy31
11-08-2013, 10:45 PM
should have got a POWER ACOUSTIK.... lmao....

vibe
11-09-2013, 03:15 AM
you have one misconception bro. CEA certified only means it does power at 4 ohms, it says NOTHING about it doing 2 or 1 ohms rated. Because Efficiency comes into play. When running that much power at 1 ohm, you do not base your decisions upon CEA certified logo, you have to get products that are proven. I've ran into many CEA certified amps that could do a **** sh*t near their 1 ohm rated claim cleanly on the oscope AKA most of those CEA compliant KAC kenwoods.

remember, I'm running the BRX 2400 and i know for sure the belva is a better amp all around by a slight bit. However, hifonics has a better resale value since people know about the name. So yeah the brx is a good stepping stone amp until you get something of better quality like a sundown, rockford tbcp, soundqubed, digital designs, incriminators etc. But if you dont ever plan on buying another amp, then the belva's a better choice performance wise. The bass just sounds better on it to be honest.

Anyways, its your money, as long as your happy with your purchase. Just wanted to get some facts and misconceptions out of the way.

Thank you for clearing that up for me and for now its a good enought amp. Im planning on running around 4k watts rms in the next 6 months and im assuming it would be a better idea to go with a bigger nicer quality i.e sundown dc audio etc than to strap a secong brutus to my first one? And in ur opininion at 1 n 2 ohm what do you think the brutus runs at?? Thanks again for clarifying for me

Austinw88
11-09-2013, 03:26 AM
Thank you for clearing that up for me and for now its a good enought amp. Im planning on running around 4k watts rms in the next 6 months and im assuming it would be a better idea to go with a bigger nicer quality i.e sundown dc audio etc than to strap a secong brutus to my first one? And in ur opininion at 1 n 2 ohm what do you think the brutus runs at?? Thanks again for clarifying for me

sundown and dc are both great amps, also don't forget to check out the SQ3500, Ia 40.1 and ab 200.1. all around 4k and great amps just to name a few. But you're brutus is a good starter amp. There is no need for you to buy my amp just because its different yes it may be a little more power but in all honesty you really wont be able to tell the difference IMO

Spooney
11-09-2013, 03:28 AM
sundown and dc are both great amps, also don't forget to check out the SQ3500, Ia 40.1 and ab 200.1. all around 4k and great amps just to name a few. But you're brutus is a good starter amp. There is no need for you to buy my amp just because its different yes it may be a little more power but in all honesty you really wont be able to tell the difference IMO

Free bump for an honest man. Thank you for not BS'ing this guy into buying your amp. Fewer and fewer honest guys out there these days. On another note I kinda want your amp LOL.

Jes 42
11-09-2013, 03:47 AM
sundown and dc are both great amps, also don't forget to check out the SQ3500, Ia 40.1 and ab 200.1. all around 4k and great amps just to name a few. But you're brutus is a good starter amp. There is no need for you to buy my amp just because its different yes it may be a little more power but in all honesty you really wont be able to tell the difference IMO

:2thumbs: glws

Austinw88
11-09-2013, 03:54 AM
:2thumbs: glws

thanks lol now I know this is better than that mojo you have... So trade me the mojo for it lmfao :jk:

Jeffdachef
11-09-2013, 03:56 AM
Thank you for clearing that up for me and for now its a good enought amp. Im planning on running around 4k watts rms in the next 6 months and im assuming it would be a better idea to go with a bigger nicer quality i.e sundown dc audio etc than to strap a secong brutus to my first one? And in ur opininion at 1 n 2 ohm what do you think the brutus runs at?? Thanks again for clarifying for me

The brutus, as long as you stay above 14.4 volts and up, you should get rated/close to rated power after accounting in box/impedance rise. Not sure how beefy your electrical is but I would save up for the quality amps.

It pretty much comes down to how much the amp can do when given X amount of power/amperage. Both choices would probably draw about the same amount of current from your electrical systems but the quality one will put out more power due to increased efficiency from design.

I mean if you can keep voltage drops above 14 volts running 4k rms, then adding another Hifonics would be okay if your really on a budget. There's just a lot more power to be had with higher quality amps IMHO.

Jes 42
11-09-2013, 04:04 AM
thanks lol now I know this is better than that mojo you have... So trade me the mojo for it lmfao :jk:
Yeah i see the Belva dustin the Mojo away :crazy:

Austinw88
11-09-2013, 04:25 AM
Yeah i see the Belva dustin the Mojo away :crazy:

only way this thing is dustin the mojo is price wise lol

vibe
11-09-2013, 12:59 PM
The brutus, as long as you stay above 14.4 volts and up, you should get rated/close to rated power after accounting in box/impedance rise. Not sure how beefy your electrical is but I would save up for the quality amps.

It pretty much comes down to how much the amp can do when given X amount of power/amperage. Both choices would probably draw about the same amount of current from your electrical systems but the quality one will put out more power due to increased efficiency from design.

I mean if you can keep voltage drops above 14 volts running 4k rms, then adding another Hifonics would be okay if your really on a budget. There's just a lot more power to be had with higher quality amps IMHO.

when strapping amps if i am going for say the 4800w rms that 2 brutus would put out together both at 1 ohm. does that turn it into 4800w rms at .5 ohm or does it stay 1 ohm? sorry im pretty noob when it comes to most of this stuff.

Jeffdachef
11-09-2013, 05:43 PM
when strapping amps if i am going for say the 4800w rms that 2 brutus would put out together both at 1 ohm. does that turn it into 4800w rms at .5 ohm or does it stay 1 ohm? sorry im pretty noob when it comes to most of this stuff.

Whatever your nominal impedence is your amps will each see half of that. For example if you have a 1 ohm nominal load each amp when strapped will see .5 ohms. Not sure if the brutus can handle .5 ohms, i have yet to test that out.

Austinw88
11-10-2013, 01:17 AM
anyone have a decent laptop they want to trade for this???

Austinw88
11-10-2013, 02:54 AM
175 shipped this weekend ONLY!!

Jes 42
11-10-2013, 02:56 AM
175 shipped this weekend ONLY!!
:omg: Hell of a price!!!

cfox10
11-10-2013, 04:10 AM
anyone have a decent laptop they want to trade for this???

What are you looking for?

Spooney
11-10-2013, 04:18 AM
:omg: Hell of a price!!!

So good ............... it's gone!!!!!!!! Just sent payment for it

cfox10
11-10-2013, 04:19 AM
So good ............... it's gone!!!!!!!! Just sent payment for it

But... but... I was tryna see what kinda laptop he wanted lol. Good buy! Lucky you.

Austinw88
11-10-2013, 04:22 AM
But... but... I was tryna see what kinda laptop he wanted lol. Good buy! Lucky you.

lol sorry man just a few mins late. he jumped quick. pm want kind of laptop you have tho might still be interested in it.