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Syntaxx7x
09-05-2013, 08:13 PM
sooooo I totaled my Camaro and I'm gonna get a hoopti.. :(
probably a '92 Honda Civic

so i'ma just give my system to my girl which is 2 AB 12" XFL's on a AB Phantom 4000...

I'm making a list of what I'ma put in my car.. and I need some help.. want to do something
a little different brand wise..
so I was thinking 2 Sundown X12 on a SAZ 2500D V.2.. or would I do better with a CT Sounds AT2500.1 ???

box would be up to specs.. I have space to work with in the trunk...

I'm up for suggestions..

Also i'm doing electrical upgrade 1st.. with get ho alt.. and big 3 done before I buy anything.

jaeguerra909
09-05-2013, 08:53 PM
I think they would come alive on a saz 3500v2 a 2500 would do fine as well but I would do subdown over audio technix any day if ur worried about budget or something then ct is fine looks like the boards are korean so cant go wrong with that too.

Syntaxx7x
09-05-2013, 09:01 PM
or do yah think that the Z v.3 would do better.... I just love the look of the X's..... that's why I want them...

u said the saz 3500 v2... isn't that a little too much power for the X's??? or do you think they can handle that daily??

jaeguerra909
09-05-2013, 09:08 PM
They shoukd be ablekto handle 2k daily if done properly if u plan to wire at 1 ohm I wouldn't see a single problem.. me personally I would wire to .5 ohm to get close to 4k from that amp and to be honest I like the new x and zv4 series I have never heard a zv3 but I would personally go for the x because I love lows and the sq is great on them.i am going to be running a ns1 at .5 on 4 x 10s so I believe thats 1800 watts a piece.

treesive
09-05-2013, 09:10 PM
The x's are **** looking but I think the zv4 is a better sub in almost every way.

SounDrive
09-05-2013, 09:16 PM
I'm seeing a big problem with this thread...

Why are you giving away your system to a woman.

But back on topic, the X and Zv4 are both great subs and will get low. But get the car first, then worry about the system.

Syntaxx7x
09-05-2013, 09:35 PM
lol.. cause I totaled my car.. even my box was crushed.. subs and amp are still ok.. soooo I'ma put them in my girls car.. and I just want something different when I get my new car.. well not really new but you know what I mean.. so if I wanted to wires down to .5 ohm.. I should get the dual 2 ohm vc??

plus i'm like 700 a month free $ now that my car got totaled.. and I'll pay for the hooptie out of pocket.. 1500.. lol my amp will cost about the same amount as my car..

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should have car by sat.. or mon.. then gonna order alt and 0 ga wire.

Buck
09-05-2013, 09:37 PM
If you want hella lows then do the X's.

Syntaxx7x
09-05-2013, 09:45 PM
yea.. I want to feel it in my chest.. the ear ring.. and the nose itch is aight.. but I like it when u feel it in ur chest..

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u think a 220 alt will be good enough..?? or will I need to get another batt too??

Syntaxx7x
09-05-2013, 10:55 PM
would u choose the AB VFL 200.1... or the SAZ 3500..

jaeguerra909
09-06-2013, 01:04 AM
would u choose the AB VFL 200.1... or the SAZ 3500..

tellin u man sundown in my eyes makes the best amps around i would go with the 3500 and the zv4 and x are fairly close the z just had a 2 layer more spider and aluminum coil

jaeguerra909
09-06-2013, 01:05 AM
yea.. I want to feel it in my chest.. the ear ring.. and the nose itch is aight.. but I like it when u feel it in ur chest..

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u think a 220 alt will be good enough..?? or will I need to get another batt too??

to be good i would run at least 2 batts in the back with a 3500 i had a 3500 at .5 ohm with one batt in the back and a 180 amp alt and dropped to mid 11's

Syntaxx7x
09-06-2013, 01:40 AM
Is the 3500 .5 ohm stable? And how watts u pullin at .5 ohms??

Syntaxx7x
09-06-2013, 01:42 AM
I'm not competing. . I just want to be heard and felt..

des343
09-06-2013, 01:52 AM
sooooo I totaled my Camaro and I'm gonna get a hoopti.. :(
probably a '92 Honda Civic

so i'ma just give my system to my girl which is 2 AB 12" XFL's on a AB Phantom 4000...

I'm making a list of what I'ma put in my car.. and I need some help.. want to do something
a little different brand wise..
so I was thinking 2 Sundown X12 on a SAZ 2500D V.2.. or would I do better with a CT Sounds AT2500.1 ???

box would be up to specs.. I have space to work with in the trunk...

I'm up for suggestions..

Also i'm doing electrical upgrade 1st.. with get ho alt.. and big 3 done before I buy anything.
Just curious all this money dumping into another system and you arnt going to spend it getting a better car? Pfft priorities man! Lol

Syntaxx7x
09-06-2013, 10:30 AM
Lol... i just totaled my 2010 camaro.. it was like 450 a month plus 170 insurance and about 200 in gas every 2 weeks.. im buy da hooptie.. ill be saving about 600 a month.. gonna chill for a year.. then get me another camaro.. by that time i would have bought all the stuff and i can tranfer it from my hooptie to my new car.. except the alt and big 3..

Syntaxx7x
09-06-2013, 10:31 AM
Oh and ill have enough money saved up to buy rims.. paint.. and get a custom enclosure built in my trunk..

jaeguerra909
09-06-2013, 08:12 PM
Is the 3500 .5 ohm stable? And how watts u pullin at .5 ohms??

yup they sure are i had mine on a not that great electrical setup at .5 and it barely got warm. and like i said about 4k at .5 ohm

jaeguerra909
09-06-2013, 08:14 PM
Lol... i just totaled my 2010 camaro.. it was like 450 a month plus 170 insurance and about 200 in gas every 2 weeks.. im buy da hooptie.. ill be saving about 600 a month.. gonna chill for a year.. then get me another camaro.. by that time i would have bought all the stuff and i can tranfer it from my hooptie to my new car.. except the alt and big 3..

ehhh the mustang rapes the camaro any ways haha thats what im getting in a few months is a 2014 5.0

Syntaxx7x
09-07-2013, 09:34 AM
so should I do the dual 2 ohm... rather than the dual 4???

and i'm not going into the mustang vs Camaro.. we can be at that all day and all year.. :)

J31Rob
09-07-2013, 09:50 AM
Apples to oranges.

platinumjason
09-07-2013, 10:02 AM
Just curious all this money dumping into another system and you arnt going to spend it getting a better car? Pfft priorities man! Lol

All depends. You can get reliable cars in that price range that are nothing fancy. I'd never buy a new vehicle, its one of the most rapidly depreciating assets you can own.

Syntaxx7x
09-07-2013, 07:06 PM
didn't get it new.. It was a 2010.. bought it in nov 2011.

Syntaxx7x
09-08-2013, 11:48 AM
If I buy the sundown subs on ebay will the warranty still be valid?

thatguy12
09-08-2013, 01:29 PM
not worth ebay unless its through a authorized source. look who ships it. dont save 20 bucks to be screwed out of a couple hundred later.

Syntaxx7x
09-09-2013, 02:43 PM
I was just checking out some other amp.. I could prob get 2 VFL 120.1 for cheaper than the SAZ 3500... would that be better or is it a better bet with the SAZ???
I hate buying stuff.. There's always so much to chose from..

I'm not a brand *****.. so I don't worry about mismatched pieces..

LOUDNDEEP
09-09-2013, 06:02 PM
I was just checking out some other amp.. I could prob get 2 VFL 120.1 for cheaper than the SAZ 3500... would that be better or is it a better bet with the SAZ???
I hate buying stuff.. There's always so much to chose from..

I'm not a brand *****.. so I don't worry about mismatched pieces..

have you seen the ampere audio aa 3800.1? its worth a look. same as saz3500dv1

SMS
09-10-2013, 12:56 PM
I was just checking out some other amp.. I could prob get 2 VFL 120.1 for cheaper than the SAZ 3500... would that be better or is it a better bet with the SAZ???
I hate buying stuff.. There's always so much to chose from..

I'm not a brand *****.. so I don't worry about mismatched pieces..

well the ab 120.1 isnt even close to the saz3500. i can get a DC3.5K shipped new for $800. to your location it may be just a little more on the shipping but i think it would be your best bet for the money. you could also get a AQ3500 and a cresendo 3500 for round $800- and also the ampere audio 3800. isnt the saz3500v2 over $1000?
how is a subwoofer review??

Syntaxx7x
09-10-2013, 04:40 PM
sorry... don't know where I should post this.. general discussion forum???

Syntaxx7x
09-10-2013, 04:43 PM
and I meant for the price I can almost buy 2 120.1.. one for each sub.

SMS
09-10-2013, 05:17 PM
and I meant for the price I can almost buy 2 120.1.. one for each sub.

oh yeah, missed that part...sorry