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akillj
07-17-2013, 10:04 PM
Looking for some loud, I mean LOUD pro audio speakers. I'm planning out my new system, sub stage is going to be two HDC4 18"s. I'm looking into going pro-audio as my mids/highs. As a cheaper way to keep up. I'm not sure where to start, I want them to get very loud, but still be decent enough to listen to.

Budget, say, $500? I'm not too worried about tweeters, cause I know many pro-audio tweeters can get very loud with low power. But i'd still like some suggestions on tweets.

I was thinking maybe two Sundown NeoPro 8"s in each door with an FT1 tweet per door? I also heard MMATS Audio has some Pro Audio speakers that are very loud. Thoughts?

I'm probably going to pick up a SoundQubed (Former AQ) Q2-200 for the mids. it does 220W x 2 @ 4 ohms. I already got a small amp for the tweets.

T3mpest
07-17-2013, 10:55 PM
I'd do 2 sets of faital pro 8fe200's and maybe a set of b&c de35 tweeters. If you want to be a real man, find some Image dynamic horn bodies and get some cheap compression drivers and do it right. Those will be much louder than tweets (unless your gonna run like 2 or 3 sets), sound better (MUCH better if you did run 2 or 3 sets of tweets lol). Either way that should be good on your budget. Those Faital pro are 95db/1w/1m so even 1 set would be about as loud as 2 sets of the sundowns. Only downside is they won't play much below 100hz, but subbass to midbass transition isnt' that important at 150db's for most people. PLUS audioque drivers don't have an issue playing higher like alot of bigger car audio woofers. (so i hear, no firsthand experience on that)

akillj
07-17-2013, 11:29 PM
Interesting, I haven't heard of Faital. But thanks for the suggestions. I wonder how two of those and those B&Cs would sound..

mlstrass
07-18-2013, 04:45 AM
Have heard a few setups with the sundown neo's, don't care for them at all. Very distorted in the midrange when you push them hard. I've had good luck with the Soundqubed pa mids, selenium, eminence, and dayton PA's.

I run 6 HDC4 18's and my PA stuff keeps up no problem...

mlstrass
07-18-2013, 04:47 AM
As for sounding good, get your xover points right and don't overpower them and "most" PA mids/tweets can sound very good....

momax_powers
07-18-2013, 04:48 AM
pre order is about to start on the sundown neopro V2 so i say jump on it.......right on time for u

mlstrass
07-18-2013, 04:59 AM
pre order is about to start on the sundown neopro V2 so i say jump on it.......right on time for u

What is diff with v2? I wouldn't take v1's for free.......

T3mpest
07-18-2013, 08:30 PM
Interesting, I haven't heard of Faital. But thanks for the suggestions. I wonder how two of those and those B&Cs would sound..

Should be very good, louder than the SA's for sure. Faital pro makes very good speakers, I've ran a few sets and never had alot of issue, SQ can be good if tuned right. Instead of getting car audio that attempts to mimic pro audio, just go straight to the source. Ebay tends to have good deals on faital pro stuff too!

akillj
07-18-2013, 08:39 PM
Should be very good, louder than the SA's for sure. Faital pro makes very good speakers, I've ran a few sets and never had alot of issue, SQ can be good if tuned right. Instead of getting car audio that attempts to mimic pro audio, just go straight to the source. Ebay tends to have good deals on faital pro stuff too!

Very convincing. I'll check their stuff out, cheap too so doesn't seem like I can go wrong. Thanks bud

mlstrass
07-19-2013, 03:19 AM
Should be very good, louder than the SA's for sure. Faital pro makes very good speakers, I've ran a few sets and never had alot of issue, SQ can be good if tuned right. Instead of getting car audio that attempts to mimic pro audio, just go straight to the source. Ebay tends to have good deals on faital pro stuff too!

What other PA mids would you compare the Faitals to? Been wanting to try them out, just haven't had a chance yet.

T3mpest
07-19-2013, 07:26 PM
Reminds me a bit of the 18sounds speakers. Not as neutral as say a B&C mid, those while loud, tend to be SUPER low distortion and very flat sounding. The faitals while low distortion are a bit more colored. Think of it as a ferrari vs a BMW. Both are super driving machines, one is just a bit more flashy than the other.

mlstrass
07-20-2013, 02:29 AM
Reminds me a bit of the 18sounds speakers. Not as neutral as say a B&C mid, those while loud, tend to be SUPER low distortion and very flat sounding. The faitals while low distortion are a bit more colored. Think of it as a ferrari vs a BMW. Both are super driving machines, one is just a bit more flashy than the other.

How would you compare them to Selenium then? I like the sound of the Seleniums, plenty loud and pretty aggressive, but not blaring/distorted at all...

michaellane
07-20-2013, 02:35 AM
Lol good thread

T3mpest
07-20-2013, 12:06 PM
I haven't heard too many selenium drivers, but from what I remember, should be similar, with the faitals being higher quality overall. I know one guy who used to run the jbl 2118h's which are legendary in SQ for car audio. He liked the sound of his faital 8fe's better and he does know good sound, for the price they are very impressive.

mlstrass
07-21-2013, 11:55 PM
Lol good thread

Thanks for your helpful input :crazy:

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I haven't heard too many selenium drivers, but from what I remember, should be similar, with the faitals being higher quality overall. I know one guy who used to run the jbl 2118h's which are legendary in SQ for car audio. He liked the sound of his faital 8fe's better and he does know good sound, for the price they are very impressive.

Selenium is made my JBL. I just dropped the HPF to 63Hz on the 15's in my doors, man did they come alive down low....

michaellane
07-22-2013, 04:57 AM
Thanks for your helpful input :crazy:

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Selenium is made my JBL. I just dropped the HPF to 63Hz on the 15's in my doors, man did they come alive down low....
Was being legit. I never ran pro audio and I know you have a bunch of different **** in yohr honda if im remembering correctly. This was a good read.

mlstrass
07-22-2013, 07:43 PM
Was being legit. I never ran pro audio and I know you have a bunch of different **** in yohr honda if im remembering correctly. This was a good read.

My bad. Son has a honda with PA stuff, I have a gay mini van :crazy:

jmcinvale
07-24-2013, 10:28 AM
I'd suggest looking at Pyle Pro for the midbass drivers.

I used a pair of their shallow mount 6 1/2" speakers in my front doors and they sounded very good and went loud as hell on 150 watts while still sounding just as good as they did playing low.

For tweeters the Eminence APT-80 sounds very good and is relatively small Amazon.com: Eminence Supertweet APT80 3.4 x 3.4 Inches Horn Flare: Musical Instruments (http://www.amazon.com/Eminence-Supertweet-APT80-Inches-Flare/dp/B000BBGRHI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374675792&sr=8-1&keywords=eminence+APT-80)

I used one in a home stereo speaker and was pleasently surprised at how good it sounds.

Maybe three years ago Parts Express had a buyout on a box of 200 Onkyo tweeters meant for GM vehicles for only $10. I tried a pair in my car and was pleasently surprised at the quality of sound they produced. I run 150 watts to each door speaker (I have four) and the two tweeters running on only 15 watts keep up very good with the door speakers.

thescottishbear
07-24-2013, 11:14 PM
I run ID horns and a 12" Eminence in the doors. Kicks *** and is loud. First post FTW

mlstrass
07-25-2013, 01:53 AM
I run ID horns and a 12" Eminence in the doors. Kicks *** and is loud. First post FTW

I'll see your 12" in the door and raise you 2 15's :naughty:

Welcome to the site. Get out to some shows already....

thescottishbear
07-26-2013, 01:27 PM
Hey Mike, I saw the upgrade you did to the doors. I haven't heard the van since last year. I am getting a couple 15" for midbass (60-300hz) to go under the infinite baffle. Family stuff keeps getting in the way going to the shows. I was headed to the show in alsip but it got cancelled. I'm going to try to get out to a couple before the year is over.

mlstrass
07-27-2013, 01:09 AM
I have the 15's playing down to 63Hz now, much better that way.

Cordova on August 3rd, Pontiac, IL on the 4th are the next few shows coming up...

T3mpest
07-29-2013, 06:19 PM
I have the 15's playing down to 63Hz now, much better that way.

Cordova on August 3rd, Pontiac, IL on the 4th are the next few shows coming up...

I'll be at the pontiac show.

psychoacoustics
07-29-2013, 06:59 PM
everything gets distorted when you push it hard PA CA whatever

mlstrass
07-30-2013, 03:22 PM
I'll be at the pontiac show.

Cool, be sure to come up and introduce yourself....

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everything gets distorted when you push it hard PA CA whatever

Exactly, which is why I prefer to run a LOT of speakers and not push them as hard...