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04murdalanche
06-02-2013, 10:45 AM
Yooooo

Built these doors for my boy Cameron's 03 Silverado


3x 6.5s, 2 super tweets, some suede, bed liner, etc.

6.5s are crossfire mpx's if I remember correct. Tweets are sound streams

Anywho, onto teh pics

Started off like this
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/1547f8055fa038e0cb5455872d44cf03_zpsd8958dd9.jpg

Me workin on em
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/null_zps71090ed3.jpg

Resined
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/null_zps6c6d4447.jpg

First of 3 total layers on these doors, they are heavy as **** but I didn't want them to ever, ever come apart so he could run these door panels for as long as he wants
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/null_zps29548573.jpg

I was laying down lots of fb mat at one time so I would pool the resin like this picture then once I dropped about 2-3 layers of mat in there it would soak it all up and lay up really nice.
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/null_zps05756e16.jpg

Holes cut, MDF rings glassed in, again 3 layer thick so the tweets had a solid mounting surface, these ******* are heavy guys. Like 4 pounds a piece heavy, that's alot of weight on a plastic door card so I had to reinforce them
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0479_zps41fe94ae.jpg

Doors sanded down and all the body work that needed to be done, is done by this point
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/null_zpsa977ce38.jpg

See now if these were getting painted obviously I'd have alooooott more body work ahead of me but with bed liner you won't be able to see any of these imperfections so I stopped at this point
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0467_zpsa1b50b7d.jpg

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0468_zps4f419322.jpg

Ready for bedliner
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0470_zps314f2f5c.jpg

04murdalanche
06-02-2013, 10:54 AM
Test fit
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0474_zpscc02904f.jpg

Here's the truck they are going into
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0471_zps98213778.jpg

**** *** 175.4 for the doors
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0472_zpsbf6153e6.jpg

Memphis for the tweets, probably gonna be a sundown 50.4 soon
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0473_zpsa32be3e0.jpg

Wired up
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0475_zpsab55998b.jpg

I cut out a piece of paper that matched the magnet, use painters tape to tape the paper to the magnet, gorilla tape that would hit the metal door skin, put the door panel on, and pushed the mid through the mounting hole till it hit the door skin, needed about 1/2 inch of clearance. So I had to use an angle grinder and cut out some of his inner door skin for clearance.
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0477_zpsd87dae15.jpg

All cut out
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0476_zpsc812da34.jpg

Installed and done
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/null_zpsc7008bcd.jpg

04murdalanche
06-02-2013, 10:55 AM
Test fit
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0474_zpscc02904f.jpg

Here's the truck they are going into
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0471_zps98213778.jpg

**** *** 175.4 for the doors
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0472_zpsbf6153e6.jpg

Memphis for the tweets, probably gonna be a sundown 50.4 soon
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0473_zpsa32be3e0.jpg

Wired up
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0475_zpsab55998b.jpg

I cut out a piece of paper that matched the magnet, use painters tape to tape the paper to the magnet, gorilla tape that would hit the metal door skin, put the door panel on, and pushed the mid through the mounting hole till it hit the door skin, needed about 1/2 inch of clearance. So I had to use an angle grinder and cut out some of his inner door skin for clearance.
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0477_zpsd87dae15.jpg

All cut out
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0476_zpsc812da34.jpg

Installed and done
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/null_zpsc7008bcd.jpg

04murdalanche
06-02-2013, 10:55 AM
Test fit
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0474_zpscc02904f.jpg

Here's the truck they are going into
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0471_zps98213778.jpg

**** *** 175.4 for the doors
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0472_zpsbf6153e6.jpg

Memphis for the tweets, probably gonna be a sundown 50.4 soon
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0473_zpsa32be3e0.jpg

Wired up
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0475_zpsab55998b.jpg

I cut out a piece of paper that matched the magnet, use painters tape to tape the paper to the magnet, gorilla tape that would hit the metal door skin, put the door panel on, and pushed the mid through the mounting hole till it hit the door skin, needed about 1/2 inch of clearance. So I had to use an angle grinder and cut out some of his inner door skin for clearance.
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0477_zpsd87dae15.jpg

All cut out
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0476_zpsc812da34.jpg

Installed and done
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/null_zpsc7008bcd.jpg

SUNDOWNBITCH
06-02-2013, 11:10 AM
**** jeff, these look sweet! Great job bro!

SUNDOWNBITCH
06-02-2013, 11:12 AM
Where did you get the bed liner? What kind is it?

SUNDOWNBITCH
06-02-2013, 11:13 AM
Where did you get the bed liner? What kind is it?

pickup1
06-02-2013, 11:57 AM
whats he got in the bed?

Dtrom
06-02-2013, 12:44 PM
Nice man!!!

04murdalanche
06-02-2013, 01:59 PM
**** jeff, these look sweet! Great job bro!

Thanks mayne


Where did you get the bed liner? What kind is it?

Autozone actually, it's called Herculiner, I use it on boxes, people's beds, all kinds of sheit

I've done a piece of MDF in it, dragged it behind my truck for about a mile and it barely scratched it at all, it's only 33 a can too.. Great stuff I highly reccomend it


whats he got in the bed?

4 DC level 4 15s on a Crossfire 8k, does a mean *** hair trick

Here's a vid

4 DC Level 4 15's on a DB Drive Okur 7.5K in Cameron's Chevy! 4th Order Loud! - YouTube (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IKyl4yhfsek)


Nice man!!!

Thanks man!

TheycallmeJT
06-02-2013, 02:17 PM
Hell yea man. Looking good

pickup1
06-02-2013, 03:55 PM
I like that blow thru,4th order.

04murdalanche
06-02-2013, 04:00 PM
Hell yea man. Looking good

Thanks bro


I like that blow thru,4th order.

Yessir it's tuned to 43 if I remember correctly, smashes every note from the mid 20s up through the low 40s but still does pretty well all the way up through the bandwidth

04murdalanche
06-18-2013, 01:52 AM
update on these, they are holding up great.. no problems with them. tweet amp should be getting replaced by a sax 50.4 soon enough

04murdalanche
07-02-2013, 12:14 AM
So Cameron decided he wanted to add some additional **** into the truck

relocated the air bag switch to the glove box
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0669_zpsffea366c.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/hhawksqb1/media/DSC_0669_zpsffea366c.jpg.html)

chopped it up, glued and bondo

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0673_zpsbe4cc201.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/hhawksqb1/media/DSC_0673_zpsbe4cc201.jpg.html)

test fit

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0671_zps8766899e.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/hhawksqb1/media/DSC_0671_zps8766899e.jpg.html)

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0672_zps1659db97.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/hhawksqb1/media/DSC_0672_zps1659db97.jpg.html)

plasti dipped, he wanted a rough look to it to match the bedliner but i didnt have any at the time, will probably go back and redo it later but for now, this is how it sits

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0674_zps381cd931.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/hhawksqb1/media/DSC_0674_zps381cd931.jpg.html)

in the truck, switch to turn it off on the right, bass knob on the left
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0677_zps46488bc2.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/hhawksqb1/media/DSC_0677_zps46488bc2.jpg.html)

MLA turned up

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0678_zps541332d6.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/hhawksqb1/media/DSC_0678_zps541332d6.jpg.html)

another angle

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0679_zpse45083d0.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/hhawksqb1/media/DSC_0679_zpse45083d0.jpg.html)

He got rid of the memphis and got a crossfire 600.4 for the tweets, talk about some power lol

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0680_zpsf6d22598.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/hhawksqb1/media/DSC_0680_zpsf6d22598.jpg.html)

Jes 42
07-02-2013, 12:19 AM
Very nice work.Guess i know who i'm shippin my panels to.. :fro:

04murdalanche
07-08-2013, 01:20 AM
Very nice work.Guess i know who i'm shippin my panels to.. :fro:

hell yeah man

04murdalanche
09-23-2013, 10:31 PM
Bringing this back from the dead, Cams at it again, ripped out the blowthrough, got a camper shell, doing 8 level 4 15s in a walk through. He also got a dual alt bracket and another alt as well. Pics will be up as progress is made

thebigd1973
10-01-2013, 05:23 PM
The panels look great. Nice work.

jrdnhsnbrg
10-01-2013, 05:32 PM
They're clean looking but bedliner... Seriously? That can not be comfortable and the rough surface like that looks like junk. I can't be the only one who thinks so. You managed to destroy the door panels of Timmy13091 ;... I wouldn't send mine to him after seeing that work.

04murdalanche
10-01-2013, 07:46 PM
The panels look great. Nice work.

Preciate it


They're clean looking but bedliner... Seriously? That can not be comfortable and the rough surface like that looks like junk. I can't be the only one who thinks so. You managed to destroy the door panels of Timmy13091 ;... I wouldn't send mine to him after seeing that work.

Wasn't my decision to Bedliner them. He wanted it, and that's what I did for him. And it's not uncomfortable actually.

And that's cool man, no one is making you send me your panels, your entitled to your own opinion. Thanks

Silver-N-Black
10-02-2013, 11:45 AM
Preciate it



Wasn't my decision to Bedliner them. He wanted it, and that's what I did for him. And it's not uncomfortable actually.

And that's cool man, no one is making you send me your panels, your entitled to your own opinion. Thanks


Agree with 04murdalanche, if the customer wanted it then that's what he got. Not sure why we would want bedliner. If i was timmy i'd go for more of a factory look, but that just me.

04murdalanche
10-02-2013, 11:54 AM
Agree with 04murdalanche, if the customer wanted it then that's what he got. Not sure why we would want bedliner. If i was timmy i'd go for more of a factory look, but that just me.

Yeah my next doors I build will be wrapped in vinyl, or something nice. More OEM looking. Just looks cleaner.

SounDrive
10-02-2013, 11:56 AM
Looks like poop

04murdalanche
10-02-2013, 12:00 PM
Looks like poop

You're entitled to your own opinion, thanks.

jco1385
10-03-2013, 01:36 PM
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0677_zps46488bc2.jpg

Please tell me that is not a finished product with the upholstery all half-assed and covering the display :crap:

04murdalanche
10-03-2013, 01:38 PM
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0677_zps46488bc2.jpg

Please tell me that is not a finished product with the upholstery all half-assed and covering the display :crap:

Sadly.. Yes. The shop did a great job on most of his interior but there were parts of it, like this.. That were done ******

chefzane
10-03-2013, 01:46 PM
Kinda like all of your work? Eh eh see what I did there!

jco1385
10-03-2013, 01:50 PM
I haven't seen anything done 'great' in this entire thread, to include the rest of that dash work.

ciaonzo
10-03-2013, 01:57 PM
Yikes.

04murdalanche
10-03-2013, 02:14 PM
Kinda like all of your work? Eh eh see what I did there!

Yeah man:suave:


I haven't seen anything done 'great' in this entire thread, to include the rest of that dash work.

Meh. Never said I was great. Average at best.

As far as wrapping the dash. If he would've made more relief cuts and not make them so deep into the corners it would've turned out nice.

oxsign
10-03-2013, 02:23 PM
****, I remember when you could post stuff up and people didn't go off bashing it, lol. But like you said, they are all entitled to their own opinions. My thing is, they say it like they can (and have) done better....... Not my taste but if that's what he wanted and he's happy with it, that's all that matters. ��

04murdalanche
10-03-2013, 02:33 PM
****, I remember when you could post stuff up and people didn't go off bashing it, lol. But like you said, they are all entitled to their own opinions. My thing is, they say it like they can (and have) done better....... Not my taste but if that's what he wanted and he's happy with it, that's all that matters. ��

Everyone's E-pen is like 14 inches bro. You know this.. And there's people on here that can glass better than me for sure. None of which have posted in this thread though that's for sure.

Timmy13091
10-03-2013, 03:09 PM
Everyone's E-pen is like 14 inches bro. You know this.. And there's people on here that can glass better than me for sure. None of which have posted in this thread though that's for sure.

Ya so that makes it all ok to fuckk people over right ??
You deserve all the trash talk you get .. Look how you act .. Then you brag about all this work your getting ?
Then send me back my fuckingg deck , tweets, and atleast Most the cash you can cut shipping

Timmy13091
10-03-2013, 03:11 PM
So well say deck , tweets , and around 225/250 ... That should be no issue with the amount of work a highly skilled individual as your self has been supposibly being paid to do ..

04murdalanche
10-03-2013, 03:12 PM
Ya so that makes it all ok to fuckk people over right ??
You deserve all the trash talk you get .. Look how you act .. Then you brag about all this work your getting ?
Then send me back my fuckingg deck , tweets, and atleast Most the cash you can cut shipping

I did these doors last summer just in case you forgot. I haven't done much lately.

---------- Post added at 02:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:11 PM ----------


So well say deck , tweets , and around 225/250 ... That should be no issue with the amount of work a highly skilled individual as your self has been supposibly being paid to do ..

Lol so the truth finally comes out everyone look at that.. Everywhere else supposedly you paid me $500. Which you didn't.

Timmy13091
10-03-2013, 03:14 PM
I did these doors last summer just in case you forgot. I haven't done much lately.

---------- Post added at 02:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:11 PM ----------



Lol so the truth finally comes out everyone look at that.. Everywhere else supposedly you paid me $500. Which you didn't.

How is over 300$ cash a new 130$ deck and new 100$ tweets picked up for u not 500$ ******* wtf!!!!
Actually if you included all the extras I gave ur scum bag *** were well over 700$ In value .. You really wanna play this .. I have recipts and screen shots pussyy

SounDrive
10-03-2013, 03:27 PM
How is over 300$ cash a new 130$ deck and new 100$ tweets picked up for u not 500$ ******* wtf!!!!
Actually if you included all the extras I gave ur scum bag *** were well over 700$ In value .. You really wanna play this .. I have recipts and screen shots pussyy

Small claims ;)

Slo_Ride
10-03-2013, 03:52 PM
Everyone's E-pen is like 14 inches bro.

Not everyone's. Mine's like 36 inches. I use it as a belt when I'm not ******* unicorns! :fro:

bubbagumper6
10-03-2013, 04:04 PM
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0474_zpscc02904f.jpg

The layout and mounting may be good but the finished product looks awful with that bedliner, IMO. Paint or even just some carpet would have looked much better and more professional...



Also WTF is up with this? Attention to detail is severely lacking here as the cutout for this thing is nowhere near square, or even symmetrical for that matter...

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0678_zps541332d6.jpg

neo_styles
10-03-2013, 04:11 PM
Seems like the forum boner has shifted from talking about car audio to picking apart everyone's installs. Anyone up for having those who criticize post up their own work for comparison?

I mean, ****, we're talking about a hobbyist for Christ's sake, not a professional (and he doesn't make any claims that he is). For those who've done business with him and been dissatisfied with the outcome, that's for you and him to deal with on your own time. You act like a flame war is going to stop him from pursuing this hobby. Or maybe it's because you feel like your opinion is the only one that should be heard, whether it's right or wrong.

Now, can everyone put their e-***** back in their pants and support this hobby? Telling him they look like **** isn't going to make him improve. How about some suggestions of what he could do better? I know the age range on this forum varies from 13 to freakin' 60, but a little maturity would be greatly appreciated.

There was a ban thread yesterday on MAF where someone was a little less than pleasant to deal with in terms of forum etiquette and the same action was recommended each time: use the ignore feature if you can't just overlook his posts. Seriously, people. One exists here, too. Enough with this trying to prove something pissing match.

neo_styles
10-03-2013, 04:12 PM
Furthermore, I don't agree with him charging as much as he does doing this from a distance, especially at his experience level. Enough to cover shipping and materials plus maybe a 5% profit to cover time spent would make more sense.

Timmy13091
10-03-2013, 04:45 PM
Seems like the forum boner has shifted from talking about car audio to picking apart everyone's installs. Anyone up for having those who criticize post up their own work for comparison?

I mean, ****, we're talking about a hobbyist for Christ's sake, not a professional (and he doesn't make any claims that he is). For those who've done business with him and been dissatisfied with the outcome, that's for you and him to deal with on your own time. You act like a flame war is going to stop him from pursuing this hobby. Or maybe it's because you feel like your opinion is the only one that should be heard, whether it's right or wrong.

Now, can everyone put their e-***** back in their pants and support this hobby? Telling him they look like **** isn't going to make him improve. How about some suggestions of what he could do better? I know the age range on this forum varies from 13 to freakin' 60, but a little maturity would be greatly appreciated.

There was a ban thread yesterday on MAF where someone was a little less than pleasant to deal with in terms of forum etiquette and the same action was recommended each time: use the ignore feature if you can't just overlook his posts. Seriously, people. One exists here, too. Enough with this trying to prove something pissing match.

He should be banned here as well .. There's a diffrence between doing something for a hobby
And fuckingg someone out of 500$ then making a joke out of it ...
You should just stay out of these threads .. He brought this on him self if he wasnt a pos then he'd make things right ..
Not rub in all the $ he's making from other jobs .. Getting old neo take a step back

neo_styles
10-03-2013, 04:49 PM
He should be banned here as well .. There's a diffrence between doing something for a hobby
And fuckingg someone out of 500$ then making a joke out of it ...
You should just stay out of these threads .. He brought this on him self if he wasnt a pos then he'd make things right ..
Not rub in all the $ he's making from other jobs .. Getting old neo take a step back

I'm just saying my peace and it's not just regarding what's going on with you, but more so in general with what I see regarding forum etiquette. This rampant e-thuggery is starting to get ridiculous.

bubbagumper6
10-03-2013, 07:14 PM
Seems like the forum boner has shifted from talking about car audio to picking apart everyone's installs. Anyone up for having those who criticize post up their own work for comparison?

I mean, ****, we're talking about a hobbyist for Christ's sake, not a professional (and he doesn't make any claims that he is). For those who've done business with him and been dissatisfied with the outcome, that's for you and him to deal with on your own time. You act like a flame war is going to stop him from pursuing this hobby. Or maybe it's because you feel like your opinion is the only one that should be heard, whether it's right or wrong.

Now, can everyone put their e-***** back in their pants and support this hobby? Telling him they look like **** isn't going to make him improve. How about some suggestions of what he could do better? I know the age range on this forum varies from 13 to freakin' 60, but a little maturity would be greatly appreciated.

There was a ban thread yesterday on MAF where someone was a little less than pleasant to deal with in terms of forum etiquette and the same action was recommended each time: use the ignore feature if you can't just overlook his posts. Seriously, people. One exists here, too. Enough with this trying to prove something pissing match.

If you're charging someone for work, that's not a hobby it's a job. Furthermore if I pay someone for an install, I would expect professional level work, if I wanted hobbyist level work I'd do it myself.

neo_styles
10-03-2013, 09:12 PM
If you're charging someone for work, that's not a hobby it's a job. Furthermore if I pay someone for an install, I would expect professional level work, if I wanted hobbyist level work I'd do it myself.

I don't disagree, but caveat emptor man. That would be a big red flag in my book. I know glass work from a shop isn't cheap, but those liabilities are exactly why it costs so much to buy a ticket to the dance. If my quote from a non-pro was $500, I'd politely decline and look elsewhere. Especially when there's no means to fit test from a guy who rolls with a Tahoe club.

04murdalanche
10-03-2013, 09:32 PM
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0474_zpscc02904f.jpg

The layout and mounting may be good but the finished product looks awful with that bedliner, IMO. Paint or even just some carpet would have looked much better and more professional...



Also WTF is up with this? Attention to detail is severely lacking here as the cutout for this thing is nowhere near square, or even symmetrical for that matter...

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0678_zps541332d6.jpg

As it's been said multiple times now, wasn't my choice to bedliner them, customer got what he wanted and was very satisfied. Still texts me saying people complement them all the time at shows. And again, as I've said multiple times, I know suede, carpet, other things look better, I totally agree with you. But that's not what he wanted, he's got bedliner on his beauty panel for the blowthrough and in the box so it matched. If you don't like it, you don't have to comment. Simple as that

And AGAIN, for the unteenth time. I didn't wrap the dash dude some Mexican at a shop did it. Call his *** up and talk to him about it. I could personally give a **** what it looks like. Not my truck....


Seems like the forum boner has shifted from talking about car audio to picking apart everyone's installs. Anyone up for having those who criticize post up their own work for comparison?

I mean, ****, we're talking about a hobbyist for Christ's sake, not a professional (and he doesn't make any claims that he is). For those who've done business with him and been dissatisfied with the outcome, that's for you and him to deal with on your own time. You act like a flame war is going to stop him from pursuing this hobby. Or maybe it's because you feel like your opinion is the only one that should be heard, whether it's right or wrong.

Now, can everyone put their e-***** back in their pants and support this hobby? Telling him they look like **** isn't going to make him improve. How about some suggestions of what he could do better? I know the age range on this forum varies from 13 to freakin' 60, but a little maturity would be greatly appreciated.

There was a ban thread yesterday on MAF where someone was a little less than pleasant to deal with in terms of forum etiquette and the same action was recommended each time: use the ignore feature if you can't just overlook his posts. Seriously, people. One exists here, too. Enough with this trying to prove something pissing match.

No one will ever stop me from doing this ish. I love it.. Best hobby ever and I've met a lot of good friends doing it.


And yep. Block me. Save us both the time of listening to the bitching

CandeShop
10-03-2013, 11:19 PM
As it's been said multiple times now, wasn't my choice to bedliner them, customer got what he wanted and was very satisfied. Still texts me saying people complement them all the time at shows. And again, as I've said multiple times, I know suede, carpet, other things look better, I totally agree with you. But that's not what he wanted, he's got bedliner on his beauty panel for the blowthrough and in the box so it matched. If you don't like it, you don't have to comment. Simple as that

And AGAIN, for the unteenth time. I didn't wrap the dash dude some Mexican at a shop did it. Call his *** up and talk to him about it. I could personally give a **** what it looks like. Not my truck....


There's a few problems here.

#1 (http://www.caraudio.com/forums/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1) you don't care because it's not your truck, you should care if you're going to show off the work you do.
#2 (http://www.caraudio.com/forums/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2) it's easy to make those switch/bass knob cut outs a perfect circle. Get the right tools!
#3 (http://www.caraudio.com/forums/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=3) if you're going to charge to make a profit (higher than materials + $10 an hour at most) atleast make your work look professional.
#4 (http://www.caraudio.com/forums/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=4) if you're going to show off some panels atleast make sure you actually like the product you produced. I know out of my shop I don't allow any unfinished work to leave. WHY? Because the finished work is just as much of a reflection of your work as the unfinished product is. People only see the finished product in the end and when someone asks the customer who did it, they'll say you did. Nothing about that they got it unfinished and had someone else do the shotty work.

Timmy13091
10-03-2013, 11:25 PM
As it's been said multiple times now, wasn't my choice to bedliner them, customer got what he wanted and was very satisfied. Still texts me saying people complement them all the time at shows. And again, as I've said multiple times, I know suede, carpet, other things look better, I totally agree with you. But that's not what he wanted, he's got bedliner on his beauty panel for the blowthrough and in the box so it matched. If you don't like it, you don't have to comment. Simple as that

And AGAIN, for the unteenth time. I didn't wrap the dash dude some Mexican at a shop did it. Call his *** up and talk to him about it. I could personally give a **** what it looks like. Not my truck....



No one will ever stop me from doing this ish. I love it.. Best hobby ever and I've met a lot of good friends doing it.


And yep. Block me. Save us both the time of listening to the bitching

Or you could just do the right thing and avoid all this bs

04murdalanche
10-03-2013, 11:32 PM
There's a few problems here.

#1 (http://www.caraudio.com/forums/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1) you don't care because it's not your truck, you should care if you're going to show off the work you do.
#2 (http://www.caraudio.com/forums/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2) it's easy to make those switch/bass knob cut outs a perfect circle. Get the right tools!
#3 (http://www.caraudio.com/forums/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=3) if you're going to charge to make a profit (higher than materials + $10 an hour at most) atleast make your work look professional.
#4 (http://www.caraudio.com/forums/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=4) if you're going to show off some panels atleast make sure you actually like the product you produced. I know out of my shop I don't allow any unfinished work to leave. WHY? Because the finished work is just as much of a reflection of your work as the unfinished product is. People only see the finished product in the end and when someone asks the customer who did it, they'll say you did. Nothing about that they got it unfinished and had someone else do the shotty work.

1) I didn't do the dash, therefore it's not my work. Therefore I don't care how it looks considering it's NOT MY WORK.

2) there were two bass knobs there previously that a shop put in for him. They drilled those holes, when he brought me the truck they were already like that, again.. NOT MY WORK. Thanks for asking, though.

3) I did the dash piece for free.. And he was happy with how it turned out:blush:

4) these panels aren't unfinished, clearly they've been finished with something. Whether you think n they need carpet or whatever, go build you some then man. These aren't your doors and this isn't your truck. Cameron loves it, and so do a lot of people at shows. I've gotten calls and texts from people he have my number too considering getting work done. And that's all I have to say

CandeShop
10-03-2013, 11:51 PM
1) I didn't do the dash, therefore it's not my work. Therefore I don't care how it looks considering it's NOT MY WORK.

So you weren't the one who fabricated the dash piece to house the volt meter? Either the dash was wrapped before you got your hands on it (which I could see possible as the ac controls have a trim piece around them and this piece doesn't) or he got shafted (or underpaid) at the shop he went to. It's the details that'll help you keep people coming to you. Cleaning up someone else's screw ups is one of those things. A simple step bit in a drill would've cleaned it up and would've shown that you care about how your installs look like, since you got the piece and fabricated it (and plastidipped it) for the guy.


3) I did the dash piece for free.. And he was happy with how it turned out:blush:

That's great you did it for free. Customer being happy isn't always what you're looking for especially if you want return work. I've turned down many of people because they want a piece of mdf wrapped in vinyl and attached to their doors so that they may mount extra mids. Someone will do it for them yes, but comparing that to something custom that's left my shop (for only $300 more) everyone is going to go towards the car that looks better.


4) these panels aren't unfinished, clearly they've been finished with something. Whether you think n they need carpet or whatever, go build you some then man. These aren't your doors and this isn't your truck. Cameron loves it, and so do a lot of people at shows. I've gotten calls and texts from people he have my number too considering getting work done. And that's all I have to say


You're right. They have a finish on them, but for you to say they came out great or even average is absurd. You may not need to smooth out all the pinholes, but you do need to make sure the door doesn't have huge lumps in it (that could've been solved when stretching your fabric before applying resin). There are huge lumps and divots that did need body filler/sandpaper attention.


And did you say build something for myself? I've not gotten the chance as I've had many out of state customers (and many in town) lining up for doors to be done. Especially after these left my shop.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh209/CandeShop/97-02%20Expedition%20panels/image_zps6d9dae4c.jpg

Staynlean
10-04-2013, 12:15 AM
So much drama itt now

04murdalanche
10-04-2013, 12:17 AM
So you weren't the one who fabricated the dash piece to house the volt meter? Either the dash was wrapped before you got your hands on it (which I could see possible as the ac controls have a trim piece around them and this piece doesn't) or he got shafted (or underpaid) at the shop he went to. It's the details that'll help you keep people coming to you. Cleaning up someone else's screw ups is one of those things. A simple step bit in a drill would've cleaned it up and would've shown that you care about how your installs look like, since you got the piece and fabricated it (and plastidipped it) for the guy.

well next time he come by ill fix it and post it up.



That's great you did it for free. Customer being happy isn't always what you're looking for especially if you want return work. I've turned down many of people because they want a piece of mdf wrapped in vinyl and attached to their doors so that they may mount extra mids. Someone will do it for them yes, but comparing that to something custom that's left my shop (for only $300 more) everyone is going to go towards the car that looks better.

that's cool that you have a shop. Which means you do this for a living. I don't. It's a hobby. Something that's fun for me. I'm not perfect at this but I will be over time.



You're right. They have a finish on them, but for you to say they came out great or even average is absurd. You may not need to smooth out all the pinholes, but you do need to make sure the door doesn't have huge lumps in it (that could've been solved when stretching your fabric before applying resin). There are huge lumps and divots that did need body filler/sandpaper attention.

meh, again that's just your opinion and the fabric was pulled tight

And did you say build something for myself? I've not gotten the chance as I've had many out of state customers (and many in town) lining up for doors to be done. Especially after these left my shop.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh209/CandeShop/97-02%20Expedition%20panels/image_zps6d9dae4c.jpg
And your better than me, much better. I'm not afraid to say it. Those look great, I've seen what you charge though and not everyone wants to pay that much.. Not that it's not worth it, but some people's pockets just aren't that deep. You know?


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CandeShop
10-04-2013, 12:35 AM
Not that deep? You've seen what I charge? Pretty sure that Timmy's panels would've been done for $500 total plus the shipping back to him and would've looked just as any other product that's left my shop. My prices start out at $350 for a pair of doors with shipping handled by FedEx via my business account. It started as a hobby for myself then once people were seeing what I was capable of (beating many shops in the area with both craftsmanship and quality) I was able to generate a business as it's something I love doing and I'm good at it. Hobby or professional if you're going to charge someone you should give them a product that you're proud to put your name on. Also if you're doing it for a hobby, you shouldn't be paid for your time. Only materials as you're doing it for your own fun.


Should I go back and show you the huge lumps in your work? I mean it'll take me a few minutes as I'd have to start up the laptop (since I work on my ipad, iPhone or ipad mini mostly) but I'd be more than happy to show you where you started off wrong and where it looked like uncooked pizza dough.

CandeShop
10-04-2013, 12:48 AM
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/hhawksqb1/DSC_0468_zps4f419322.jpg


Are you not seeing where near the back end of the front mid where there are nice sized divots and a huge lump that really needed to be smoothed out? Or how about the area above the last 2 mids where you can tell the material you used was stretched the wrong way and is producing a wave effect?

Not nitpicking just showing you where your mistakes are and how those shouldn't be considered ready for anything. If you've had to do a lot of body work to get them to that point then you're using the wrong material to start your base, (tshirts are not a great material for a base as they aren't very stretchy and when wet tend to sag)not pulling the base fabric in the right directions to reduce wrinkles or you're not laying the glass down smooth enough to reduce your body work time. It's easy to learn from working on many different sets of panels, but only if you're willing to learn. If you're already saying that those panels are ready to be finished then you are thinking that you've grasped the concept already. In reality you're very far from being able to charge a dollar amount more than materials. And anyone thinking of sending their panels to you should remember that as well and get a price quote from someone who does better work as opposed to the price from you and compare the difference. FIXING A SET OF PANELS COST MORE THAN GETTING THEM DONE RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING.

bubbagumper6
10-04-2013, 11:46 AM
As it's been said multiple times now, wasn't my choice to bedliner them, customer got what he wanted and was very satisfied. Still texts me saying people complement them all the time at shows. And again, as I've said multiple times, I know suede, carpet, other things look better, I totally agree with you. But that's not what he wanted, he's got bedliner on his beauty panel for the blowthrough and in the box so it matched. If you don't like it, you don't have to comment. Simple as that

And AGAIN, for the unteenth time. I didn't wrap the dash dude some Mexican at a shop did it. Call his *** up and talk to him about it. I could personally give a **** what it looks like. Not my truck....

Yeah, I know the bedliner wasn't your choice, I was just sharing my opinion on the finished product. When you post your work on a public forum you're going to get both positive and negative feedback...and when I don't like something, I'm always going to comment on it...simple as that ;)

And I wasn't aware you didn't wrap the dash, that's on him then.

redrider
10-04-2013, 11:59 AM
Ummm......

04murdalanche
10-04-2013, 12:07 PM
Yeah, I know the bedliner wasn't your choice, I was just sharing my opinion on the finished product. When you post your work on a public forum you're going to get both positive and negative feedback...and when I don't like something, I'm always going to comment on it...simple as that ;)

And I wasn't aware you didn't wrap the dash, that's on him then.

I'm not saying I don't like negative feedback. It's just how you deliver it. Positive criticism and being a **** are two different things. And sometimes people need to hear that their work *****. Lol

Love your sig btw. By far my favorite movie scene ever lmao

brandonkain82
10-07-2013, 05:48 PM
Later douche bag