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SteveVHT
05-30-2013, 08:36 PM
Used for SQ, not SPL.
Rock, Metal, Blues, Jazz, Funk..
Powered by PPI PCX 480
Which is better for a natural sound without harsh high end?
I need 2 sets of 6.5's

tat2bass
05-30-2013, 09:09 PM
Budget? The pioneer TS-D1720C's are the best value at $100 shipped

NFrazier
05-30-2013, 09:48 PM
ESK hands down.

Go2Sleep
05-30-2013, 09:49 PM
Hertz over those alpines all day. My personal opinion

Gonzalez1988
05-30-2013, 10:12 PM
Budget? The pioneer TS-D1720C's are the best value at $100 shipped

^^^ Agreed. They are actually at $93 on Amazon right now.

SteveVHT
05-31-2013, 12:02 AM
My max is $500 for 2 pairs, front and back. I would be willing to spend more on the fronts since they are what I will be hearing for the most part. I have a local Authorized Hertz dealer I've known for a while that will do $225 a pair for the Hertz. I just did not know if they are far superior for the $100 difference. All the reviews I have heard were how natural sounding they are. I am all about clarity and natural sound without breaking the bank. I cross over my 2x10 subs at 80 for punch, not rumble. I just can't find the Alpines to do a side by side with one of my CD/MP3's etc.... I had JL and Mmats with 2x10 solo barics in my camaro and loved them. This is an Astro van, so it's a totally different environment. I am leaning towards the Hertz in the front, maybe the Alpines in the back since the seats will block 80% of the sound anyway due to position. Like I said, they will be running off a PPI PCX 480, so it's a decent amp. I don't plan on going into competition...LOL
Thanks, and keep the responses coming..
Steve

Silverado SS
05-31-2013, 12:16 AM
Hertz are 200 on ebay

SteveVHT
05-31-2013, 12:19 AM
Should I be concerned at the power rating of the Pioneer TS-D1720C's?????? Are they going to take a beating and distort/blow?
This is for the rear I would consider....

SteveVHT
05-31-2013, 12:20 AM
Hertz are 200 on ebay

I know, but I read a bunch of stuff about fake ones....Who the hell would take the time to counterfeit low priced speakers????LOL

Gonzalez1988
05-31-2013, 01:29 AM
Should I be concerned at the power rating of the Pioneer TS-D1720C's?????? Are they going to take a beating and distort/blow?
This is for the rear I would consider....

One of the members on here has 200 watts to them and has never had an issue. I have only 90 to mine since i have the power pack amping them and they are extremely loud to me as is so i cant even imagine 200 to them.

Silverado SS
05-31-2013, 02:14 AM
One of the members on here has 200 watts to them and has never had an issue. I have only 90 to mine since i have the power pack amping them and they are extremely loud to me as is so i cant even imagine 200 to them.

Loud in a good or bad way?

Gonzalez1988
05-31-2013, 03:43 AM
Loud in a good or bad way?

In a good way, im surprised they are even as loud as they are considering they are under powered.

zako
05-31-2013, 03:52 AM
If you can afford them, take a look at JBL MS-62C speakers. They have been getting very good reviews.

SteveVHT
05-31-2013, 10:29 AM
If you can afford them, take a look at JBL MS-62C speakers. They have been getting very good reviews.

They don't fit my front doors due to the magnet size. They were on my watch list. I spoke to several places including Crutchfield and JBL, both agreed that I would have to modify my door panels to get them to fit. I did listen to a few sets of the JBL's on a sound board and the Hertz sounded better for my style of music. I do like old school JBL, but they seem to have changed. 2 dealerships said that JBL is not what they use to be. A bit harsh on the top end which I'm sure I could attenuate. The Hertz sounded very flat, which is what I want. They are about the same price, so that's not an issue.

SteveVHT
06-01-2013, 10:30 AM
Any other suggestions for SQ in the $200-$250 per pair range????

whitedragon551
06-01-2013, 10:42 AM
Hertz are 200 on ebay

Also alot of fake Hertz on eBay.

Another option to look at if you can find them is a set of Eclipse SC6500's on eBay.

SteveVHT
06-01-2013, 06:21 PM
Also alot of fake Hertz on eBay.

Another option to look at if you can find them is a set of Eclipse SC6500's on eBay.
Are they nice sounding speakers? There is one guy selling display models in acrylic displays...He wants $60 shipping...LOL They are a little low on the wattage too, so I am a little hesitant. My PPI is a clean amp, but I am concerned about that.

whitedragon551
06-01-2013, 06:40 PM
Are they nice sounding speakers? There is one guy selling display models in acrylic displays...He wants $60 shipping...LOL They are a little low on the wattage too, so I am a little hesitant. My PPI is a clean amp, but I am concerned about that.

I have 2 pairs. They are great speakers. Midbass is solid and the tweeters are extremely similar to the LPG25NFA tweeters that are used in $1000 comp sets by Blues Audio. Wattage is a recommendation not a requirement. You could probably send them more power if you were careful. You can also dial your gains on your amps back and send them less power.

SteveVHT
06-01-2013, 07:33 PM
I have 2 pairs. They are great speakers. Midbass is solid and the tweeters are extremely similar to the LPG25NFA tweeters that are used in $1000 comp sets by Blues Audio. Wattage is a recommendation not a requirement. You could probably send them more power if you were careful. You can also dial your gains on your amps back and send them less power.
Cool....Gotta check them out. I never dime a power amp, and I'm only at 80 watts on the PPI. I just know there is so much BS with ratings nowadays.....I just want crystal clear, natural sound...
Steve

tat2bass
06-01-2013, 08:05 PM
For that price range and if depth is an issue, the sundown SA6.5CS comps are great at that price range. The are pretty shallow and have an excellent build quality to them. The crossovers have jumpers in them also so that you can adjust the power to the speakers by it. Nice feature