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J31Rob
04-25-2013, 12:09 PM
I get this PM the other day:


I don't come around here often, and I don't expect you to help me out at all, but this amp you sold me installed DOA. I ended up just putting 2 ppis in there after the disappointment. For what it's worth I figured I'd let you know.

I replied that I did not sell him an EA DX80.4. I've never owned one. I had an Eclipse 75.4 a while back.. but I had it installed prior to selling and I know for a fact it worked, however that isn't what he is asking about? So I reply with:


I didn't sell you an EA DX80.4 bro.

He replies with:


Sure you didn't. I still have the trail of mails. Its all good I'll just let the board know what a ******* rip off artist you are and post all the conversation.... including the part you denying you even sold it. I'll post up the paypal details with your name too.

So now I'm here to either offer the guy his money back for whatever the hell I supposedly sold him or to tell him to **** off for waiting almost a year to bring up some sort of bullshit claim that I've heard nothing about up until now.

Robby, would you please post up all the info so we can get this settled rather than you trying to "blast me on a public forum"? I understand you being pissed if something actually happened but I'm unable to decipher what you're saying through all the rudeness and unwillingness to provide proper info.

J31Rob
04-25-2013, 12:12 PM
Found the amp he's talking about: http://www.caraudio.com/forums/amplifier-classifieds/556747-fs-elevation-audio-dx80-4-a.html

I forgot I had ever even owned that thing. I did, however, have that installed for 2 months prior to shipping it out to it's new owner. My references can vouch that I don't just send bad equipment. However.. if he can provide proper info that it "arrived DOA" and have a **** good reason why he decided to just now get a hold of me after having the amp since 10-05-2012 then I'd be more than willing to pay the cost of the amp back.

robbyboy32
04-25-2013, 12:18 PM
I've been on the board since 2005, and this is my first negative feedback left. Just own it dude. I don't want my money back. I've bought and sold plenty **** here, and yours just happened to not work at all when I go to put it in one of my projects. I own 13 amps and all are stored properly, and all work when I pull them out to use for whatever reason. The cheap POS you sold me, however, did not.

J31Rob
04-25-2013, 12:19 PM
Are you ******* blind, kid? I offered your money back, I posted that I found the for sale thread and even went out of my way to make a thread trying to SOLVE THE ISSUE. It is not my fault that you're not accepting any form of retribution for a claim that you can't even PROVE IS TRUE. Why the **** did you wait for 6+ months to even bring this to my attention?!

Joseph7195
04-25-2013, 12:21 PM
I wouldn't pay him a dime. He is responsible for verifying the amps working condition after shipment is received. 6 months is too long to extend a warranty or refund for a used product. If other information comes to light, it could change the situation. But if he just contacted you after 6 months about this problem, he probably damaged it during use and is trying to not lose money.

basswiigee
04-25-2013, 12:22 PM
thats a long time to have the amp, did he test upon arrival, and i'd probably try to workout refund, maybe not in full [because of timeline and his failure of not testing upon arrival] but definitely should be worked out on positive terms that both partys can live with... always test ur purchase upon arrival!

Timmy13091
04-25-2013, 12:23 PM
Are you ******* blind, kid? I offered your money back, I posted that I found the for sale thread and even went out of my way to make a thread trying to SOLVE THE ISSUE. It is not my fault that you're not accepting any form of retribution for a claim that you can't even PROVE IS TRUE. Why the **** did you wait for 6+ months to even bring this to my attention?!

Cause he's scamming

J31Rob
04-25-2013, 12:23 PM
I wouldn't pay him a dime. He is responsible for verifying the amps working condition after shipment is received. 6 months is too long to extend a warranty or refund for a used product. If other information comes to light, it could change the situation. But if he just contacted you after 6 months about this problem, he probably damaged it during use and is trying to not lose money.

Not only am I assuming this is the case.. but he's been extremely rude and belligerent rather than simply contacting me and asking me if I knew the amp was damaged or ANYTHING. I'm far FAR FARRRRRR from a scammer. I'm across 10+ audio boards with 100+ references and tons of friends all over the US with different companies.

robbyboy32
04-25-2013, 12:26 PM
Why are you mad? You have my money, and I have the ****** broke amp you sold me. I'm not asking for money back because of the fact it has been 6 months, and even Best Buy wouldn't take it back after that long, but then again I would assume something like an amp would work if I chose to use it now or later. You seemed like a pretty reputable guy, so I approached you in private like any gentleman would. After denying the sale and telling me to post up instead of talking *****, here we are. Feedback is feedback. I definitely don't need the money back, but I'd be glad to send your amp back so you can confirm it is unmolested, yet still just not working at all.

Rickdod3
04-25-2013, 12:28 PM
I don't see how this is an issue...He waited 6 months to say anything about it? That sounds fishy as hell to me. I know the seller personally and I KNOW he would NOT sell anyone broken equipment, and if anything was wrong with it that he was unaware of he would make sure to fix the problem.

robbyboy32
04-25-2013, 12:28 PM
Yeah I'm such a scammer. Been on the board happily for 8 years and just now its time to pull a fast one for $77.50. Get real

J31Rob
04-25-2013, 12:29 PM
Why am I mad? Because some little boy is ******* my reputation up with CLAIMS that I sold him a DOA amp after 6 months of owning it. If you had tested it the day you received it like a normal person and found it was DOA then I would have gladly given your money back the next day. However, you've waited half a year to do so and against my best interest I STILL offered a refund, and you've refused to accept it. Are you simply out for blood or just trying to drag my name through the mud for no reason?

Timmy13091
04-25-2013, 12:30 PM
Yeah I'm such a scammer. Been on the board happily for 8 years and just now its time to pull a fast one for $77.50. Get real

Maybe welfare ran out for ya ...

J31Rob
04-25-2013, 12:33 PM
L o l

Joseph7195
04-25-2013, 12:35 PM
I don't think you're a scammer, just a horrible buyer. Buyers have responsibilities as does the seller. Negative feedback should be left for you, not seller. If you can't see that, than you probably haven't seen other things in this situation that seems "off". I would suggest you reevaluate your actions concerning this situation, and try to be understanding, as you seem to believe our feedback system is designed for the whims of the people trying to exact uncalled for revenge. I have a feeling you can at least see that part.

J31Rob
04-25-2013, 12:36 PM
I don't think you're a scammer, just a horrible buyer. Buyers have responsibilities as does the seller. Negative feedback should be left for you, not seller. If you can't see that, than you probably haven't seen other things in this situation that seems "off". I would suggest you reevaluate your actions concerning this situation, and try to be understanding, as you seem to believe our feedback system is designed for the whims of the people trying to exact uncalled for revenge. I have a feeling you can at least see that part.

I agree 100% with this.

If this thread isn't going anywhere then I'd really like for it to be deleted so that my name isn't dragged through the mud anymore than it already has been for no reason. OP is obviously just blood thirsty and looking for "revenge".

robbyboy32
04-25-2013, 12:38 PM
I never planned on leaving public feedback. This was my original PM to him:

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Re: AMP EA DX80.4

I don't come around here often, and I don't expect you to help me out at all, but this amp you sold me installed DOA. I ended up just putting 2 ppis in there after the disappointment. For what it's worth I figured I'd let you know.

J31Rob
04-25-2013, 12:41 PM
..and my response was that I didn't sell you an amp, which at the time I had no recollection. Check out how often I'm selling equipment here. When I realized I had sent you the amp and that it was 6 months prior to your message I immediately made this thread to try and figure out a solution. Then you go ahead and make ANOTHER thread to trash me posting my personal info and being all around difficult. Not to mention the countless rude PMs you sent.

robbyboy32
04-25-2013, 12:51 PM
I don't think you're a scammer, just a horrible buyer. Buyers have responsibilities as does the seller. Negative feedback should be left for you, not seller. If you can't see that, than you probably haven't seen other things in this situation that seems "off". I would suggest you reevaluate your actions concerning this situation, and try to be understanding, as you seem to believe our feedback system is designed for the whims of the people trying to exact uncalled for revenge. I have a feeling you can at least see that part.


J31Rob ***** in my book. Is that better for a resolution?

J31Rob
04-25-2013, 01:38 PM
So after all that.. it's just done? If anything I think you owe me an apology bro. You blasted my name without any concern of the damage it would do to my reputation just to end up changing your tune that I'm actually a good dude and you should have kept your mouth shut from the beginning? You have got to be kidding me..

Chriszle
04-25-2013, 01:54 PM
Yeah I'm such a scammer. Been on the board happily for 8 years and just now its time to pull a fast one for $77.50. Get real

I don't think you get it. He has been on this same forum for nearly as long as you, and way more active. Think he was trying to pull a fast one on you for 77.50? Get real. It is your responsibility as a buyer to make sure the equipment works within a reasonable time frame of receiving it especially when we all know what packages can go through in shipping.

Silverado SS
04-25-2013, 02:04 PM
:readytog:

infamous_e46
04-25-2013, 02:12 PM
Its been too long i wouldnt be comfortable owning up to jack $hit go eat a d!ck

jco1385
04-25-2013, 02:14 PM
I had a similar issue. I bought an amp, it arrived packaged fine. I assumed it was, and put it on the shelf. I go to install some time later and it's toast. I let the seller know (months after the fact) and told him it was cool. I didn't expect any restitution at all, nor did I try to put him on blast. That's how grown folks handle business. If you didn't check it when you got it, it's on you.

:fyi:

J31Rob
04-26-2013, 01:19 PM
Thanks everyone for your posts. Hate that it had to come to this. From what I remember dude was pretty cool when we did the original deal. Think we even talked on the phone a couple times. Either way.. it's done and over now!

jco1385
04-26-2013, 01:30 PM
Useless thread is useless.

Smoke som'n *****

:smokin: