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tat2bass
04-13-2013, 04:57 PM
I was reading around on DIYMA and guys were talking about the guy on ebay from Bulgaria that sells Hertz products for cheap. They were saying that there is no proven difference between the "real" Hertz speakers from an authorized dealer and his. Anyone have experience with these or heard anything? Is it just poor QC on Elletromedia's part?

Alrojoca
04-14-2013, 12:50 AM
I would contact someone that has ordered from him, some of the stuff he sells is not really cheap compared to what comes from Malaysia

This link shows the differences but it does not mean the one from Bulgaria are fakes, who knows if he gets them from Malaysia
DIYMA Car Audio Forum - View Single Post - Spotting Fake Hertz MLK165 speakers (http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/1430856-post1.html)

shadow
04-14-2013, 12:59 AM
Never tried them, I always get my Hertz for authorized dealers...
To some 3 or 400 hundred bucks isn't a lot of money but to me it is.
And hate to get burnt...

keep_hope_alive
04-14-2013, 01:53 PM
I prefer the warranty when paying that much for "new" speakers. If you want a deal, just buy used that was purchased authorized.

We know that Hertz makes money on their products, but you can tell by inspection that there is a good amount of cost in the manufacturing of them (especially the Mille line). We also know that not every piece is perfect and that QC will separate out the good from the "bad". it makes financial sense for them to sell the B-stock also, but at a lower price point.

I consider the Herz "fakes" as B-stoc: genuine Hertz with cosmetic flaws. Those parts and pieces are too complicated for some other comjpany to make as a "fake".

Alrojoca
04-14-2013, 06:06 PM
Then you have the issue about buying used Hertz, you do not know if it was a second or came from Malaysia. Unless you know the seller, If the seller bought from an authorized dealer, If I was going to buy a used Hertz product I would demand to see original receipt pictures or copies just to rule out any issues. Or the seller better put some 5 or higher megapixel photos of the item to rule out any defects from seconds or any doubts.

Some sellers on Ebay sell some HSK's for as low as $200.00 shipped, duplication is possible it is there and it will be there with hot and expensive items, a bunch of Focals also are really cheap.

I would trust getting them from Italy and knowing the price is not 65% off retail and more like 30-40%.

I also read that, yes they are B stock items and repacked in fake boxes cause they were sold in pieces and they put them together, copy the manual and docs, to sell it as new.

It is a risky move, you can win and you can loose too. heads or tails? I would feel more comfortable shipping a warranty return to Europe than to China or Malaysia.