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RSDXzec
03-21-2013, 10:14 AM
Now everybody knows a ported box will get better numbers on the meter and it is louder so it will be heard at a further distance but I was recently looking into the Orion HCCA 15 and reading through the manual. In the manual it said a sealed box design would hit harder and ported would be louder, I mean I've seen on forums etc people have said that as well but I figured if it's written in the manual it must mean more than someones opinion on the internet...

My question to people here who have heard a decent amount of both types, does a sealed box really help you feel the bass more than hear it as opposed to a ported box? I think this would be great because that way I could feel more bass and at the same time not annoy other drivers because of my bass addiction. Any comments/opinions would be great.

Cheer guys.

NoLoud4U
03-21-2013, 10:19 AM
Feel comes down to cone area or power or both. Sealed boxes have more bandwidth, that is it.

rebelfromva
03-21-2013, 10:20 AM
You feel the lower frequencies more. Port tuned low around 32

wickedwitt
03-21-2013, 10:22 AM
You feel the lower frequencies more. Port tuned low around 32

No, you typically hear the mechanics of the driver in a sealed box. Even tuned to 36-40, a proper ported box is going to be louder across all frequencies that it can reproduce. Build a proper box, and you'll enjoy the response of a ported, all across the board.

rebelfromva
03-21-2013, 10:23 AM
No, you typically hear the mechanics of the driver in a sealed box. Even tuned to 36-40, a proper ported box is going to be louder across all frequencies that it can reproduce. Build a proper box, and you'll enjoy the response of a ported, all across the board.

Which would you feel more? 150 @ 30 or 45?

RSDXzec
03-21-2013, 10:34 AM
You feel the lower frequencies more. Port tuned low around 32

funny enough my current box is actually tuned to 32hz

wickedwitt
03-21-2013, 10:42 AM
Which would you feel more? 150 @ 30 or 45?

What part of the body? 45 is going to pound your head, 30 is going to take the air out of your lungs. It would depend on which of those two you are more sensitive to. I'm playing over 150 from about 28-50 and the 40-45 gets to me way more than any other frequencies. I do love having to time breathing in the mid 30s, though.

RSDXzec
03-21-2013, 10:53 AM
What part of the body? 45 is going to pound your head, 30 is going to take the air out of your lungs. It would depend on which of those two you are more sensitive to. I'm playing over 150 from about 28-50 and the 40-45 gets to me way more than any other frequencies. I do love having to time breathing in the mid 30s, though.

regardless of the body part i think he means sealed compared to ported.

NoLoud4U
03-21-2013, 10:53 AM
Which would you feel more? 150 @ 30 or 45?

Depends on the sub.

wickedwitt
03-21-2013, 10:55 AM
regardless of the body part i think he means sealed compared to ported.

I know, but unless you are building a wall, I don't see anyone planning on going sealed doing a 150 so the question was loaded.

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Depends on the sub.

Very true.

hispls
03-21-2013, 11:03 AM
Sounds like conventional wisdom from 1995. I have not seen a really loud sealed system in so long I couldn't tell you what the truth there is. I suspect if you had a ton of cone area and power sealed would sound/feel a little different, but for say a single 15" hcca ported would be louder any way you slice it.

ciaonzo
03-21-2013, 11:22 AM
I do love having to time breathing in the mid 30s, though.Word

Beatin'
03-21-2013, 11:32 AM
the ported box is much louder down low where those frequencies have the most effect.

joselr3668
03-21-2013, 11:35 AM
I used to do a million sealed boxes all sounded great even though I have ventured into the dark side now with ported enclosures I have done really well in output with sealed. of course most of my sealed enclosures had 2-3 woofers usually 12" and over 1k minimum. ON the main question I think I feel the lows and extensions on ported enclosures more than sealed but I feel the initial punch on sealed more.

RSDXzec
03-21-2013, 11:47 AM
I used to do a million sealed boxes all sounded great even though I have ventured into the dark side now with ported enclosures I have done really well in output with sealed. of course most of my sealed enclosures had 2-3 woofers usually 12" and over 1k minimum. ON the main question I think I feel the lows and extensions on ported enclosures more than sealed but I feel the initial punch on sealed more.

I like that answer, I currently have 3 12"s on a little over 1k, in general i'm referring to things shaking in the car/flex etc, because I do enjoy watching my car suffer from bass too lol. It's an old car so I'm making the most of it, I wont be putting a system like in this when I buy a new car a couple of years from now.

IonRL205
03-21-2013, 11:53 AM
I like that answer, I currently have 3 12"s on a little over 1k, in general i'm referring to things shaking in the car/flex etc, because I do enjoy watching my car suffer from bass too lol. It's an old car so I'm making the most of it, I wont be putting a system like in this when I buy a new car a couple of years from now.

If you want your car to move a lot, you need more output

I've had lots of sealed setups and they don't compare to any of the ported setups I had. If you wanna feel the bass, get a loud ported setup. If your box is built right, you'll still hit he low notes and the higher bass notes.

wickedwitt
03-21-2013, 12:25 PM
I like that answer, I currently have 3 12"s on a little over 1k, in general i'm referring to things shaking in the car/flex etc, because I do enjoy watching my car suffer from bass too lol. It's an old car so I'm making the most of it, I wont be putting a system like in this when I buy a new car a couple of years from now.
I'm running an 8k sub stage. Trust me, I know about the vehicle suffering. Thing is, it will knock you in the mid 40s way harder than any capacity of sealed box that isn't a monster 1000sq. in. cone area build. Just ask the guy I quoted below, he's got my old subs tuned way low and they still knock your head off in the 40s.

If you want your car to move a lot, you need more output

I've had lots of sealed setups and they don't compare to any of the ported setups I had. If you wanna feel the bass, get a loud ported setup. If your box is built right, you'll still hit he low notes and the higher bass notes.
;) You run Kicker and I run RF what would we know:up2somet:

IonRL205
03-21-2013, 12:39 PM
I'm running an 8k sub stage. Trust me, I know about the vehicle suffering. Thing is, it will knock you in the mid 40s way harder than any capacity of sealed box that isn't a monster 1000sq. in. cone area build. Just ask the guy I quoted below, he's got my old subs tuned way low and they still knock your head off in the 40s.

;) You run Kicker and I run RF what would we know:up2somet:

Yep he speaks the truth; I'm tuned at 34 hz and can still shake my car with a 23 hz bassline, and also rock your head with a 40 to 50 hz tone, it's all in the box. Get a properly built ported box and you'll have the best of both worlds

But since I run kicker, disregard this statement cause I don't know anything

wickedwitt
03-21-2013, 12:44 PM
But since I run kicker, disregard this statement cause I don't know anything

Dem Kickas will never be Rockford loud. :wacky:

IonRL205
03-21-2013, 12:46 PM
Dem Kickas will never be Rockford loud. :wacky:

I wanna hit low note, so ima swap my kickas for sundowns and tune them to 27 hz

wickedwitt
03-21-2013, 12:48 PM
I wanna hit low note, so ima swap my kickas for sundowns and tune them to 27 hz
lulz. downsize NOT downgrade... Guy still won't reply back to demo that 155 pro box machine.

IonRL205
03-21-2013, 12:50 PM
lulz. downsize NOT downgrade... Guy still won't reply back to demo that 155 pro box machine.

Lol maybe he realizes he's not as loud as he thought he was, he said for me to find a setup louder than his for less than $1000

My box + amp + subs + wall + ductape = less than $1000 lol

wickedwitt
03-21-2013, 12:53 PM
Lol maybe he realizes he's not as loud as he thought he was, he said for me to find a setup louder than his for less than $1000

My box + amp + subs + wall + ductape = less than $1000 lol
Did you tell him you were louder for less than $1k? I know another guy w/ L7s that is louder in town and he spent $800 total.

IonRL205
03-21-2013, 12:56 PM
Did you tell him you were louder for less than $1k? I know another guy w/ L7s that is louder in town and he spent $800 total.

Yeah I told him I had spent less than $1000, but I think he was talking just subs + box alone. He said he paid $400 for that prefab box; didn't even pay that much for my custom box + the gas it took to get down there and back.

wickedwitt
03-21-2013, 12:59 PM
Yeah I told him I had spent less than $1000, but I think he was talking just subs + box alone. He said he paid $400 for that prefab box; didn't even pay that much for my custom box + the gas it took to get down there and back.

Someone did give you a heck of a deal on the Solo Xs, though.

IonRL205
03-21-2013, 01:21 PM
Someone did give you a heck of a deal on the Solo Xs, though.

Indeed they did

mlstrass
03-22-2013, 06:59 AM
Which would you feel more? 150 @ 30 or 45?

Niether, that's not exactly painfully loud at either freq. 45 played LOUD is much tougher on the body...