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Arrowman400
02-27-2013, 09:30 AM
Item(s) for Sale: Prototype Amp pair - Sundown


Item(s) Description/Condition: These amps are in great condition and do rated power. I purchased them from member JL Audio on here. He was certain they were Sundown protos so that I how I am selling them as well. I only used them for a few months then sold my truck. I realize that the look very similar to Critical Mass amps, but all I know is they work great and I sold my truck so now they are for sale.

Specs are below-

Measurements:

4-channel

10" L x 5.5" W x 2" T

Power

75x4 @ 4 ohm

100x4 @ 2 ohm

200x2 @ 4 ohm


Measurements:

Mono

13.5" L x 5.5" W x 2" T

Power

1800Wx 1 @ 1

1000Wx 1 @ 2

650 W x 1 @ 4


Price: Asking $400 for the pair including shipping tyd in the lower 48. Please PM me with any other offers.




Shipping and Miscellaneous Item Information: Please see above




Item Pictures:

http://cdn2.caraudio.com/6/2/5/9/5/amp1.jpg

http://cdn2.caraudio.com/6/2/5/9/5/amp2.jpg

http://cdn2.caraudio.com/6/2/5/9/5/amp3.jpg


Feedback: Arrowman400 (http://www.caraudio.com/forums/itrader.php?u=62595)


Thanks for looking!

Brent

jteske88
02-27-2013, 09:35 AM
i would say ask jacob if there sundown or not, he would know best.

Arrowman400
02-27-2013, 11:36 AM
This is a quote from JL Audio when I bought them from him, for what it is worth:

"When Sundown gets an amp in to test.... That's a proto. These aren't production models and won't be thus rare and prototypes they decided to not get mass produced. These are no logo samples. K thanks. They are from Sundown."

Maybe he or someone else will chime in, regardless, they are great amps. I am being as honest as possible, that is all I know about them.

Thanks!

raptor727
02-27-2013, 12:29 PM
sundownz ; he can help, anyways nice looking amps glws

AcuraTL03
02-27-2013, 12:58 PM
Pics of inside please

jteske88
02-27-2013, 01:45 PM
yeah gut shots would help a ton

Arrowman400
02-27-2013, 02:02 PM
I can get some interior pictures, maybe I will be able to do it tonight and put them up

Arrowman400
02-27-2013, 05:50 PM
Here you go:

http://cdn2.caraudio.com/6/2/5/9/5/amp_guts.jpg

garretttt4
02-27-2013, 06:06 PM
Here you go:

http://cdn2.caraudio.com/6/2/5/9/5/amp_guts.jpg

Second one looks kinda like the American bass ph4000.

garretttt4
02-27-2013, 06:08 PM
Heres the ph4000md.

http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s580/garretttt4/PH-4000_5_zpsfa0492c8.jpg

RangerDangerV2
02-27-2013, 06:09 PM
those are not manufactured by sundown. sundown may have tested them but i am 99.9% that those are not a sundown designed amp.

Arrowman400
02-27-2013, 06:57 PM
Nobody claimed it was a Sundown "manufactured" or "designed" amp. Like you said, it was an amp that they got in to test, that is all

bgowdy31
02-27-2013, 08:30 PM
Here you go:

http://cdn2.caraudio.com/6/2/5/9/5/amp_guts.jpg

They look good....

Arrowman400
02-27-2013, 08:46 PM
Thanks!

04murdalanche
02-27-2013, 08:55 PM
i think the mono is for sure a AB phantom

srb
02-27-2013, 09:31 PM
i think the mono is for sure a AB phantom

Could be a Massive n4 lol
http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m574/dtgotts/Massive%20N4%20guts/IMAG0188.jpg

t0mmyfresh
02-27-2013, 09:39 PM
Looks like American Bass phantom amps minus the logos.

whitedragon551
02-27-2013, 09:41 PM
When will be people learn just because board layouts are similar doesnt mean they are the same amp. Quit cluttering this thread up. Either you want to buy the pair or you dont.

token1er
02-27-2013, 10:12 PM
willing to separate?

Arrowman400
02-28-2013, 06:21 AM
Thanks whitedragon, my thoughts exactly. I would prefer to sell them together if possible before I separated them

JL Audio
02-28-2013, 06:48 AM
These were amps Jacob got In and decided not to go with. Test samples. Critical mass uses these for their amps and if I recall. Use the whole thing.. Board and all. The phantom uses the heatsink I think and the massive is the same or similar. I bought the mono a long while back from someone on here and spent months searching for its mate... Got out of audio and sold them off. They were indeed at one time one of many various amps Jacob Proto'd but didn't use. I also sold my proto sae-800d on caco. I really miss it.

Arrowman400
02-28-2013, 08:12 AM
Thanks for the clarification JL, I appreciate it!

JL Audio
02-28-2013, 06:03 PM
Top for good guy

CerwinVega_Fan
02-28-2013, 11:52 PM
Any trades my man?

Arrowman400
03-01-2013, 08:01 AM
TTT

Sorry, I am not looking to trade, getting out of audio for now

Decided that if needed, I will seperatate, prices:

Mono - $230 shipped
4-channel - $200 shipped

Pair - $400 shipped

PM me with offers

Thanks!

Arrowman400
03-01-2013, 01:14 PM
Bump....

Make me some offers, need these gone

Thanks!

Arrowman400
03-01-2013, 01:59 PM
New prices:

Mono - $220 shipped
4-channel - $190 shipped

Pair - $375 shipped

PM me with any reasonable offers, really need to move these over the weekend.

Thanks!

JL Audio
03-01-2013, 02:04 PM
Good deal. Lordy. Don't rip yourself off too bad man. Will regret it once they go.

Arrowman400
03-01-2013, 02:59 PM
Can't take a lot less than that, but willing to deal a little to move them

Arrowman400
03-01-2013, 07:19 PM
Ttt

Arrowman400
03-01-2013, 09:57 PM
Offers??

neo_styles
03-01-2013, 10:05 PM
Shoot, really wish I had the extra cash right now so I could snatch these up. Wife would kill me, though. GLWS.

But this should be something you keep, TBH. If you get back in the game, you could end up kicking yourself for letting these go.

Arrowman400
03-02-2013, 07:11 AM
I'll sell them to you and you can keep them, lol

I need to let these go, make me some offers on them

TTT

neo_styles
03-02-2013, 12:19 PM
I'll sell them to you and you can keep them, lol

I need to let these go, make me some offers on them

TTT

Sorry, bud, next step is electrical upgrades. Hope these find a good home.

Arrowman400
03-02-2013, 02:42 PM
Tt

Arrowman400
03-02-2013, 02:44 PM
Not a problem man, I understand

TTT

Arrowman400
03-02-2013, 09:39 PM
Hard to beleive these are not gone. Offers????

TTT

Arrowman400
03-03-2013, 07:50 AM
Ttt

Arrowman400
03-03-2013, 12:04 PM
Let's get these gone........PM me some offers!!

Arrowman400
03-03-2013, 07:35 PM
Ttt

Arrowman400
03-04-2013, 07:59 AM
Come on, nodody wants these????????????????

Macframalama
03-04-2013, 02:02 PM
I would make good use of these but im stuck in the frozen tundra up here , stupid canada lol....

got your pm and im mulling it over
thanks for your reply though, and if i dont get em someone will end up happy

Arrowman400
03-04-2013, 02:04 PM
Ok, PM me and let me know what you decide :-)

Thanks!

Anyone else??

Arrowman400
03-04-2013, 07:46 PM
Ttt

Arrowman400
03-05-2013, 05:25 PM
Bump

Arrowman400
03-05-2013, 07:30 PM
This is crazy that these are not gone.

Make me some offers, worst I can say is no, I really need to sell them

Thanks!

Arrowman400
03-06-2013, 11:18 AM
Bump....

mat3833
03-06-2013, 11:30 AM
YGPM

Matt

Arrowman400
03-06-2013, 11:42 AM
Replied

Arrowman400
03-06-2013, 03:44 PM
Ttt

Arrowman400
03-06-2013, 06:36 PM
New price: $350 shipped tyd for the pair

Come on people, somebody buy these, I really need to sell them

Thanks!

Arrowman400
03-06-2013, 09:34 PM
????

Arrowman400
03-07-2013, 07:20 AM
Bump....

Offers?????

Arrowman400
03-08-2013, 11:34 AM
Ttt

Arrowman400
03-08-2013, 05:59 PM
Make me some offers, they have got to be sold! !

Arrowman400
03-09-2013, 04:11 PM
Ttt

Arrowman400
03-11-2013, 06:58 AM
Bump

Arrowman400
03-11-2013, 11:22 AM
New price: $330 shipped tyd for the pair

Let's make a deal....

Thanks!

Arrowman400
03-11-2013, 08:21 PM
Ttt

Arrowman400
03-12-2013, 07:19 AM
Offers????

Ttt

Arrowman400
03-12-2013, 08:45 PM
Ttt

Somebody make me an offer already, lol....

Arrowman400
03-12-2013, 08:46 PM
$320 obo shipped for the pair

Arrowman400
03-13-2013, 06:01 PM
Ttt

Arrowman400
03-14-2013, 07:58 AM
Wth?

Anybody? Make me an offer

Arrowman400
03-14-2013, 03:32 PM
Ttt

Offers accepted, worst I can say is no, send me a PM

Arrowman400
03-15-2013, 08:12 AM
Offer up!!!!!!!!!

JL Audio
03-15-2013, 09:03 AM
I paid a ton more than what you're asking originally when I was buying these seperate and I still dunno how I managed to find them both. This is a great deal on them and I don't understand the lack of interest... People are missing out.

Arrowman400
03-15-2013, 01:49 PM
Yeah I know, when I got them from you I beleive you were seeing the same thing. I have no idea what is going on, they are awesome amps.

I just need to sell them and get them out of my house. I need mods for the new truck :-)

I will consider a reasonable offer for them, but at $320 shipped I am already giving them away

I considered what I paid when I bought them from you a h*ll of a deal and it was more than that

Arrowman400
03-16-2013, 04:17 PM
Ttt

Arrowman400
03-16-2013, 10:55 PM
Bump

Spooney
03-17-2013, 01:05 AM
sending you an offer on the mono.

Arrowman400
03-17-2013, 09:18 PM
Replied

---------- Post added at 09:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:18 PM ----------

Ttt

Arrowman400
03-18-2013, 05:46 PM
Up....

Arrowman400
03-21-2013, 01:10 PM
Ttt

Arrowman400
03-22-2013, 12:05 PM
Bump, come on, somebody has to want these, wth is happening around here??

Arrowman400
03-25-2013, 04:55 PM
Alright, final price drop, I will keep them if they don't sell now.

$300 shipped anywhere in the lower 48. Do not offer me lower, I will not take it, I am giving them away at that price but I just want to move them.

Bump for a great deal, if nobody buys them I guess I will keep them.

winkychevelle
03-25-2013, 05:18 PM
Unless Jacob comes in here and says these were his protos u aren't gonna sell them as his protos. They look just like the critical mass amps and my American bass amps. Just saying

sundownz;

cockerchrisjoe
03-25-2013, 09:32 PM
pm'ed

Arrowman400
03-26-2013, 10:17 AM
winky, point is they were amps that were tested by them, they did not manufacture them; I, nor anyone else, ever claimed that they did, so they are not specifically Jacob's protos, they are just amps that they tested. They do rated power, and for the money, they are great amps, that is all. So using that logic, if they are Critical Mass amps or were tested by Critical Mass, then considering that their amps cost in the thousands of dollars, I am really not asking enough for them. Or if they are American Bass amps the price is still very reasonable. Either way, great price for the power you are getting. Not trying to be rude, just stating that just because they do not have a sticker or a badge on them does not mean they are of any less quality.

I purchased them from JL Audio on here not because they were listed as Sundown protos, but because they do rated power and that is quite a bit of power for the money. Here was the thread I purchased them from: http://www.caraudio.com/forums/amplifier-classifieds/523623-1-1-sundown-proto-amp-pair-mono-4-channel.html

Thanks!

cocker, PM replied

winkychevelle
03-26-2013, 11:11 AM
winky, point is they were amps that were tested by them, they did not manufacture them; I, nor anyone else, ever claimed that they did, so they are not specifically Jacob's protos, they are just amps that they tested. They do rated power, and for the money, they are great amps, that is all. So using that logic, if they are Critical Mass amps or were tested by Critical Mass, then considering that their amps cost in the thousands of dollars, I am really not asking enough for them. Or if they are American Bass amps the price is still very reasonable. Either way, great price for the power you are getting. Not trying to be rude, just stating that just because they do not have a sticker or a badge on them does not mean they are of any less quality.

I purchased them from JL Audio on here not because they were listed as Sundown protos, but because they do rated power and that is quite a bit of power for the money. Here was the thread I purchased them from: http://www.caraudio.com/forums/amplifier-classifieds/523623-1-1-sundown-proto-amp-pair-mono-4-channel.html

Thanks!

cocker, PM replied

Lol my point was start a new sale thread and get rid of all the mis-information Jacob is active on this forum and is pretty good about remembering what he has done, I even tagged him for you and he didn't even drop in here and say anything. If you repost them as regular unbadged protos you more than likely will get more hits and your sale thread won't be 6 pages long from people calling you out.

04murdalanche
03-26-2013, 11:28 AM
Regardless it's a great price for 2k and a nice matching mono.. Not to mention they look **** all black with no logos, if I had use for them I'd snatch them up in a heart beat. I may have a friend interested let me ask him

Arrowman400
03-26-2013, 11:31 AM
10-4, thanks 04murda

Thanks winky, if they don't sell in another week or so, I will try that

alec14
03-26-2013, 11:45 AM
10-4, thanks 04murda

Thanks winky, if they don't sell in another week or so, I will try that

PM coming your way

Arrowman400
03-26-2013, 12:40 PM
alec14, PM replied

Getting a lot of requests to sell just the mono. Would prefer to sell them as a pair if possible, but is there anyone interested in the 4-channel?

cockerchrisjoe
03-26-2013, 01:21 PM
Pending to me waitin to finalize :-)

Arrowman400
03-26-2013, 02:06 PM
Just sent you a text

jasonbillnelson
03-26-2013, 02:12 PM
definitely reasonable.....wish I had some spare cash and I'd buy both

Arrowman400
03-26-2013, 04:56 PM
The pair is sold pending payment

cockerchrisjoe
03-26-2013, 08:24 PM
all done :) cant wait to see these at my door great guy , really was a steal for these things :)

Arrowman400
03-26-2013, 09:46 PM
Sold!

JL Audio
03-26-2013, 10:01 PM
Just to clarify regardless. Sundown protos they were. Jacob decided to not use them. That's that. My god. Lol

winkychevelle
03-26-2013, 10:19 PM
Just to clarify regardless. Sundown protos they were. Jacob decided to not use them. That's that. My god. Lol

its not that we dont want to trust u, we know u are a great guy on the forum but with so much mis-information on the web its hard to say how u came to believe they were sundown test amps. its also hard considering the jacob has not commented in this thread since its opening. they should be great amps considering my success with the American bass counterparts i wasnt trying to be a jerk or anything

JL Audio
03-27-2013, 05:16 AM
I've owned these, another unlabeled mono Jacob sold during a yard sale he does on ocassion. The first proto 50.4 unlabeled and the proto sae-500. I don't care if Jacob wants to comment or not lol he has so much stuff he goes through I am surprised he gets to all the forums as much as he does. I was just 100% clarifying. They are the same as the 1,xxx crit mass stuff so it was a great deal considering what they charge.

Arrowman400
03-27-2013, 08:58 AM
I am just glad they are gone and going to a good home as a pair. I really didn't want to seperate them even though I probably could have made a little more money.

Before I listed them on here, I tried to sell them on eBay and they pulled them since they were unlabeled. They were up to over $300 in the first 6 hours befre they stopped the auction, no telling what they would have sold for if allowed to run the full 7 days. It took me three weeks to get that much for them on here, LOL

michaellane
04-20-2013, 12:07 PM
its not that we dont want to trust u, we know u are a great guy on the forum but with so much mis-information on the web its hard to say how u came to believe they were sundown test amps. its also hard considering the jacob has not commented in this thread since its opening. they should be great amps considering my success with the American bass counterparts i wasnt trying to be a jerk or anything

Old thread or not I was just looking around...you are an idiot. How many times do these fegs have to tell you "it was a set of amps sundown got to test and decided not to use." Are you aware that ghey sundown gets tonssss of random amps to test and decide if they like the quality? And yes they do "yard sales" to clear this crap out time from time.

---------- Post added at 12:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:06 PM ----------

Now I remember why I quit coming here :/

AcuraTL03
04-20-2013, 12:34 PM
i like how you threw "sundown" in the title lmfao nice try