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Boomsday
02-26-2013, 03:19 PM
I just have a few quick questions.

First Im going to buy a receiver and I notice alot of them have HDMI inputs now, how much does that really help???

I can build my own towers, how are dayton audio components?

naughtyca
02-26-2013, 03:57 PM
HDMI actually carries audio and video at a higher rate than your rca and optical cables. so instead of audio and video cables its just one. if you have a smart TV (TV's that can go online) you need to get a receiver with ARC. good place to get receiver is accesories4less, price wise i would go with Onkyo, Denon and yamaha.

let me know if you need help

Boomsday
02-26-2013, 07:17 PM
HDMI actually carries audio and video at a higher rate than your rca and optical cables. so instead of audio and video cables its just one. if you have a smart TV (TV's that can go online) you need to get a receiver with ARC. good place to get receiver is accesories4less, price wise i would go with Onkyo, Denon and yamaha.

let me know if you need help


Tried to pm you, but ur box is full :(

naughtyca
02-26-2013, 07:58 PM
its clean now

jockhater2
02-26-2013, 08:00 PM
Tried to pm you, but ur box is full :(

I am going to be running dayton components soon. They are in my sig. keep_hope_alive ; He uses some daytons and loves them.

The HDMI is for audio. It allows you to play 256kbps. Optical goes up to 192kbps.
Pioneer, Harmon Kardon, Yamaha, Denon, Sony, and Onkyo all make receivers.

IndyStreetRacer
02-26-2013, 08:22 PM
I love this site AVS Forum (http://www.avsforum.com/f/) and did research there before making my receiver purchase 6 months ago. I would stick with a receiver that is 3d capable if you plan to watch 3d and try and find a receiver that has maybe at least 3 hdmi. In my opinion, this should give you a little "future proof" specs for the receiver. Just my $.02
I bought a Denon to replace my Onkyo. I love Onkyo still, but found a deal on the Denon on Slickdeals: The Best Deals, Coupons & Discounts on Laptops, Computers, LCDs, TVs, Dell, HP, Apple, Amazon (http://www.slickdeals.com) It's nice to also have receiver that connects to the internet, because we listen to Pandora radio quite a bit at the house.

If 3d capability and hdmi is not someting you are interested in, I have an Onkyo older receiver I'd sell cheap or trade for a battery :)

naughtyca
02-26-2013, 08:29 PM
I love this site AVS Forum (http://www.avsforum.com/f/) and did research there before making my receiver purchase 6 months ago. I would stick with a receiver that is 3d capable if you plan to watch 3d and try and find a receiver that has maybe at least 3 hdmi. In my opinion, this should give you a little "future proof" specs for the receiver. Just my $.02
I bought a Denon to replace my Onkyo. I love Onkyo still, but found a deal on the Denon on Slickdeals: The Best Deals, Coupons & Discounts on Laptops, Computers, LCDs, TVs, Dell, HP, Apple, Amazon (http://www.slickdeals.com) It's nice to also have receiver that connects to the internet, because we listen to Pandora radio quite a bit at the house.

If 3d capability and hdmi is not someting you are interested in, I have an Onkyo older receiver I'd sell cheap or trade for a battery :)


most of them will do pass thru on 3d now adays the one you really want to watch out for is to make sure it can do arc since most new tv's are smart tv now. your tv becomes a source now instead of just output for video

bubbagumper6
02-26-2013, 10:46 PM
I'm no expert but I've got a pair of towers running (in each) 1 dayton tweet, two dayton mids (I believe they're 3.5 or 4") and one 10" dayton sub with an Onkyo receiver. The center is an off the shefl klipsch center speaker. I'm not running any surrounds right now out of laziness. I ended up designing the crossovers myself in using a crossover design program where you can input the actual parameters of the speakers and see the graphed response. Parts express sells crossover components, I just mounted mine to a couple of small pieces of plywood.

keep_hope_alive
02-27-2013, 12:42 AM
I prefer Onkyo receivers (in the sub-$1000 range). Excellent build quality, great sound, and great features.

I think Dayton makes a quality driver that is a nice choice for anyone.

HDMI switching is nice if you have a cheaper TV with limited HDMI inputs. HDMI switching also simplifies remote control operation. with a nice TV, actually using receiver HDMI switching should be avoided - we want to minimize cabling and connections and conversions.

HDMI switching is a standard feature with new receivers and it's fairly cheap (compared to component video switching of old).

bubbagumper6
02-27-2013, 04:11 AM
I prefer Onkyo receivers (in the sub-$1000 range). Excellent build quality, great sound, and great features.

I think Dayton makes a quality driver that is a nice choice for anyone.

HDMI switching is nice if you have a cheaper TV with limited HDMI inputs. HDMI switching also simplifies remote control operation. with a nice TV, actually using receiver HDMI switching should be avoided - we want to minimize cabling and connections and conversions.

HDMI switching is a standard feature with new receivers and it's fairly cheap (compared to component video switching of old).

What conversion would there be? Minimizing cabling may have been a factor in the old analog days but HDMI is digital and not susceptible to signal loss and the receiver just passes the video signal through untouched...

Boomsday
02-27-2013, 07:18 PM
Hmm what would be the best bang for your buck Under $200 with HDMI?? I saw a yamaha

Boomsday
02-27-2013, 07:19 PM
YAMAHA RX-V373BL 5.1-Channel AV Receiver - Newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882115373)

naughtyca
02-27-2013, 07:54 PM
look at this $160

Onkyo TX-NR414 5.1 Home Theaterl 3-D Ready Network A/V Receiver | Accessories4less (http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXNR414/Onkyo-TX-NR414-5.1-Home-Theaterl-3-D-Ready-Network-A/V-Receiver/1.html#!more)

main stuff
Special Features
6in/1out HDMI Support for 3D Video and Audio Return Channel
Network Capability Delivers Internet Radio and Network Streaming
Picture-in-Picture Input Source Preview with InstaPrevue™ Technology
Direct Digital Connection of iPod/iPhone via Front-Panel USB Port
Onkyo Remote App for iPod/iPhone
Convenient Overlaid On-Screen Display via HDMI
Optional iPod Dock / HDradio module via proprietary U.Port
Audyssey 2EQ w/ Dynamic EQ

DOLBY Decoder True HD, DD Plus
DTS Decoder DTS-HD Master Audio

HDMI Version V1.4a (supports 3D video and Audio Return Channel)

DoesDad
02-27-2013, 08:02 PM
I got a Sony 5.1 receiver off Craigslist for cheap (60 bucks). It's huge. 110 per channel. It's right before HDMI came out but still a nice receiver. I pretty much put an entire surround system together for around 300 bucks off Craigslist. Lol! Got 2 older 10" DCM front's, 2 Yamaha bookshelf for rears, a cerwin vega center channel and I bought a 12" Dayton sub from Partsexpress when they were on sale for 100 bucks shipped. Bought a Vizio Bluray from a pawnshop for 40 bucks. Home audio loses a lot of value used for some reason. Getting things extremely cheap has become my life's work....

That refurb Onkyo above^^^ looks like a great deal!

Boomsday
02-27-2013, 08:26 PM
look at this $160

Onkyo TX-NR414 5.1 Home Theaterl 3-D Ready Network A/V Receiver | Accessories4less (http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXNR414/Onkyo-TX-NR414-5.1-Home-Theaterl-3-D-Ready-Network-A/V-Receiver/1.html#!more)

main stuff
Special Features
6in/1out HDMI Support for 3D Video and Audio Return Channel
Network Capability Delivers Internet Radio and Network Streaming
Picture-in-Picture Input Source Preview with InstaPrevue™ Technology
Direct Digital Connection of iPod/iPhone via Front-Panel USB Port
Onkyo Remote App for iPod/iPhone
Convenient Overlaid On-Screen Display via HDMI
Optional iPod Dock / HDradio module via proprietary U.Port
Audyssey 2EQ w/ Dynamic EQ

DOLBY Decoder True HD, DD Plus
DTS Decoder DTS-HD Master Audio

HDMI Version V1.4a (supports 3D video and Audio Return Channel)


I got a Sony 5.1 receiver off Craigslist for cheap (60 bucks). It's huge. 110 per channel. It's right before HDMI came out but still a nice receiver. I pretty much put an entire surround system together for around 300 bucks off Craigslist. Lol! Got 2 older 10" DCM front's, 2 Yamaha bookshelf for rears, a cerwin vega center channel and I bought a 12" Dayton sub from Partsexpress when they were on sale for 100 bucks shipped. Bought a Vizio Bluray from a pawnshop for 40 bucks. Home audio loses a lot of value used for some reason. Getting things extremely cheap has become my life's work....

That refurb Onkyo above^^^ looks like a great deal!

Ok I will go with that, probably gonna order when I get off of work

Now the towers, would they be just like car audio comps, meaning i need to find one with a crossover network and wire them in parallel or series to get the desired impedance

jockhater2
02-27-2013, 09:06 PM
YAMAHA RX-V373BL 5.1-Channel AV Receiver - Newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882115373)

I'd buy used. I literally just picked out a receiver for my sister. Used lets you get a better one than what you could buy for new. She got a Yamaha that was the 2nd highest model when it was made. And it looks like the guy never even used it. $100. and it was $550 when it was new.

Boomsday
02-27-2013, 09:13 PM
I'd buy used. I literally just picked out a receiver for my sister. Used lets you get a better one than what you could buy for new. She got a Yamaha that was the 2nd highest model when it was made. And it looks like the guy never even used it. $100. and it was $550 when it was new.

I have no problem buying used I just dont no what to look for, I'm gonna need two, one for the main living room and one for my man cave

jockhater2
02-27-2013, 09:24 PM
I have no problem buying used I just dont no what to look for, I'm gonna need two, one for the main living room and one for my man cave

Dang. You really need 2?
Well I didn't know what to look for either when I was helping my sister out. But I started searching Craigslist. First thing I did was reply to ones that had features I wanted. To make sure the person still had them. Because we all know that no one ever deletes there ads on craigslist. because that would just make too much sense.

So when they would reply back to me and they had it. I would google search the name and model. I would check CNET reviews. And try to find the manufacturer page to see if it was a low-mid-high end receiver corresponding to the other models.
The yamaha I picked out for her came in 10 models I believe. Her model was the 2nd highest model. So you know it has good features and quality since it isn't a entry level.

Boomsday
02-27-2013, 09:58 PM
Dang. You really need 2?
Well I didn't know what to look for either when I was helping my sister out. But I started searching Craigslist. First thing I did was reply to ones that had features I wanted. To make sure the person still had them. Because we all know that no one ever deletes there ads on craigslist. because that would just make too much sense.

So when they would reply back to me and they had it. I would google search the name and model. I would check CNET reviews. And try to find the manufacturer page to see if it was a low-mid-high end receiver corresponding to the other models.
The yamaha I picked out for her came in 10 models I believe. Her model was the 2nd highest model. So you know it has good features and quality since it isn't a entry level.

The man cave one doesnt have to have much of anything, could be a cheap, free, or old, just as long as it works

jdawg
02-27-2013, 10:05 PM
Get an onkyo with on screen display from accesories4less like mentioned, the best one you can afford, they are the only onkyo refurbished authorized distributor online, they will honor the warranty, pick up 3 pairs of these for center, fronts, and surrounds

Dayton Audio B652 6-1/2" 2-Way Bookshelf Speaker Pair 300-652 (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-652)

Get one of these subs

Powered Subwoofers in the Home Audio / Video Department at Parts Express | 95 - 301 (http://www.parts-express.com/cat/powered-subwoofers/95?m=301)

Get these

Dayton Audio TT25-16 PUCK Tactile Transducer Mini Bass Shake 300-389 (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-389)

Get this to power them

Dayton Audio SA70 70W Subwoofer Amplifier 300-784 (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-784)

And get a 100ft roll of 16awg while you are there and some Dayton hdmi cables (which are on sale) and don't forget a subwoofer rca cable and a short rca to jump from the sub to the other plate amp

Thank me later

Boomsday
02-27-2013, 10:21 PM
Get an onkyo with on screen display from accesories4less like mentioned, the best one you can afford, they are the only onkyo refurbished authorized distributor online, they will honor the warranty, pick up 3 pairs of these for center, fronts, and surrounds

Dayton Audio B652 6-1/2" 2-Way Bookshelf Speaker Pair 300-652 (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-652)

Get one of these subs

Powered Subwoofers in the Home Audio / Video Department at Parts Express | 95 - 301 (http://www.parts-express.com/cat/powered-subwoofers/95?m=301)

Get these

Dayton Audio TT25-16 PUCK Tactile Transducer Mini Bass Shake 300-389 (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-389)

Get this to power them

Dayton Audio SA70 70W Subwoofer Amplifier 300-784 (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-784)

And get a 100ft roll of 16awg while you are there and some Dayton hdmi cables (which are on sale) and don't forget a subwoofer rca cable and a short rca to jump from the sub to the other plate amp

Thank me later

Any advantage/disadvantage of using bookshelves verses towers?? ALso I already have a TC-2000 for sub duty.. I was gonna get a Dayton 500watt amp for it, but im starting to think it may be a bit much...maybe a 200-300watt amp would help blend better

E-Rock
02-27-2013, 10:36 PM
I love home audio. I actually kind of enjoy it a little more than car audio. Except I spend all my time on here.

My current receiver is a Pioneer 822 5.1. It was one of CNET's top rated budget receivers. I really don't feel a need to get 7.1 or 3D but that is just me. HDMI is so helpful when it comes to reducing wires and it is nice to switch sources with just one button on a remote. (Xbox 360, Blu-Ray, HD cable box, PC).

My system is pretty budget as I found some Advent Audio towers on CL from a home audiophile that I got for $30 (steal). He also demo'd his new setup for me when I bought them. My surround are the Dayton outdoor 3-ways, but I got these from a buddy at Radioshack for half price and they are labeled Auvio. Center channel is the Dayton one from Parts and my sub is the Dayton 100.

I have a budget system now because I am a student and I wanted to upgrade from the typical HT in a box setup. Once I get a new place with a garage that I can finally build boxes and towers I will spend some more $$$. I want to build some dual 8'' towers, but picking the drivers is the hard part.

I have heard the Dayton woofers are very nice. But there are tons of others like Seas, Morel, Peerless, etc... Tweeter options open up too. You can do horns, ribbons, etc.

Onkyo, Pioneer, Denon and Yamaha make some great receivers. Just go to AVS forum like mentioned above and search on the interwebs for what will suit you. The nice thing about home audio is that you can do some pretty crazy things as far as subwoofers go. Since you are not as limited for space as you are in a vehicle. I plan on doing a folded horn enclosure.

jdawg
02-27-2013, 10:37 PM
Any advantage/disadvantage of using bookshelves verses towers?? ALso I already have a TC-2000 for sub duty.. I was gonna get a Dayton 500watt amp for it, but im starting to think it may be a bit much...maybe a 200-300watt amp would help blend better

I like the bookshelves cause really that's all you need and I prefer to have every speaker exactly the same, just easier to tweak it right, like your rears could sound to drab or flat, well if you eq it up then your fronts may be too bright then, or the sound shift to the back and all the sudden the back is brighter, just a preference of mine to make it easier

naughtyca
02-27-2013, 10:40 PM
you can get 2 of these for your sub you can blend them by the volume, when you do 2 sub the bass goes a lot deeper even on low volume

For only $98.55 each when QTY 50+ purchased - 12 Inch 150 Watt Powered Subwoofer - Black (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10906&cs_id=1090602&p_id=9723&seq=1&format=2)

naughtyca
02-27-2013, 10:46 PM
you can do towers like these up front $149 each

Polk Audio New Monitor 65T Three-Way Ported Floorstanding Loudspeaker (Black) Each - Newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290271)

or these $219 each

Polk Audio New Monitor 75T Four-Way Ported Floorstanding Loudspeaker (Black) Each - Newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?SID=TdCCboFPEeKNapLRDiclhQpsz1_mWfR3_ 0_0_0&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16882290272&cm_sp=)


Bookshelf these sometimes goes down to $75 a pair but still decent price at $109 a pair

Polk Audio New Monitor 35B Pair Home Audio Speaker - Newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290268)

what i did was 4 of those polk bookshelf 2 subs and a center channel at first then replaced my fronts with those tower speaker

you can also scour the pawnshops but with these polk audio prices and brand new it will be hard to beat

naughtyca
02-27-2013, 10:49 PM
Here's a guy that tried to build his home theatre speakers, its not as easy as building a car stereo system

Home audio - FloridaSPL (http://www.floridaspl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26217)

DoesDad
02-27-2013, 10:54 PM
BIC America makes really good reasonable speakers too. You can usually get a pair of Klipsch towers or Polk towers for around 200-300 bucks on Craigslist. At least in Tulsa that's the case. And old school vintage speakers like Marantz and JBL's can come pretty cheap on cl too. Just do some homework. Go to Best Buy or Fry's or whatever and model some. Here's some big ol' window shakers for 130 a pc. http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=303-422&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pla

naughtyca
02-27-2013, 11:28 PM
BIC America makes really good reasonable speakers too. You can usually get a pair of Klipsch towers or Polk towers for around 200-300 bucks on Craigslist. At least in Tulsa that's the case. And old school vintage speakers like Marantz and JBL's can come pretty cheap on cl too. Just do some homework. Go to Best Buy or Fry's or whatever and model some. Here's some big ol' window shakers for 130 a pc. BIC RtR 1530 15" 3-Way Tower Speaker 303-422 (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=303-422&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pla)

Those look really nice, reviews are good too but I think if you run 2 powered sub plus 5 speakers the sound will be more defined just my 2 cents those will probably good on stereo receivers

keep_hope_alive
02-28-2013, 01:21 AM
What conversion would there be? Minimizing cabling may have been a factor in the old analog days but HDMI is digital and not susceptible to signal loss and the receiver just passes the video signal through untouched...

not always the case when the receiver also does up-conversion of other inputs to HDMI. then the signal can pass through a process.

all connections are subject to digital loss. all contacts, plugs, etc. are sources of resistance.

Boomsday
02-28-2013, 03:35 AM
I found one of these via my local CL for $150, is it a better deal then the Onkyo??

VSX-920-K - 7.1-Channel 3-D Ready A/V Receiver | Pioneer Electronics USA (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-920-K)

or

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXNR414/Onkyo-TX-NR414-5.1-Home-Theaterl-3-D-Ready-Network-A/V-Receiver/1.html#!more

naughtyca
02-28-2013, 11:53 AM
I found one of these via my local CL for $150, is it a better deal then the Onkyo??

VSX-920-K - 7.1-Channel 3-D Ready A/V Receiver | Pioneer Electronics USA (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-920-K)

or

Onkyo TX-NR414 5.1 Home Theaterl 3-D Ready Network A/V Receiver | Accessories4less (http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXNR414/Onkyo-TX-NR414-5.1-Home-Theaterl-3-D-Ready-Network-A/V-Receiver/1.html#!more)

The pioneer is a good price, the main difference i see is the onkyo will do internet but only 5.1, the pioneer cannot do internet but 7.1

HDMI Pioneer has 4 input and Onkyo has 6 input

I am not sure if the Pioneer will do Audio Return Channel if you have a smart TV (if you do you need this Audio Return Channel), but the Onlyo will do this


good find on CL though

jteske88
02-28-2013, 12:02 PM
i will mentin since im late to the thread but if you want a 7.1 setup hdmi will carry it. normal optic/coax is only good for 5.1.

naughtyca
02-28-2013, 12:57 PM
best place to get hdmi is with monoprice.com, unless somebody else can chime in for better prices

DoesDad
02-28-2013, 01:12 PM
The pioneer is a good price, the main difference i see is the onkyo will do internet but only 5.1, the pioneer cannot do internet but 7.1

HDMI Pioneer has 4 input and Onkyo has 6 input

I am not sure if the Pioneer will do Audio Return Channel if you have a smart TV (if you do you need this Audio Return Channel), but the Onlyo will do this


good find on CL though

I think I'd still go with the Onkyo just for the piece of mind that it's a new piece of equipment. I mean for the price difference you don't know what that Pioneer has been through. Just a thought.... Plus I don't really even like 7.1 it's too many **** speakers in my opinion and unless you spend an assload of money on a 7.1 system you're not going to hear a big difference anyway.

Boomsday
02-28-2013, 03:52 PM
I think I'd still go with the Onkyo just for the piece of mind that it's a new piece of equipment. I mean for the price difference you don't know what that Pioneer has been through. Just a thought.... Plus I don't really even like 7.1 it's too many **** speakers in my opinion and unless you spend an assload of money on a 7.1 system you're not going to hear a big difference anyway.

Thanx I will scoop that one up, My local CL has no good deals tho :(

jockhater2
02-28-2013, 04:07 PM
I like the bookshelves cause really that's all you need and I prefer to have every speaker exactly the same, just easier to tweak it right, like your rears could sound to drab or flat, well if you eq it up then your fronts may be too bright then, or the sound shift to the back and all the sudden the back is brighter, just a preference of mine to make it easier

agreed. I have never like'd the sound of towers. bookshelves sound better.

bubbagumper6
02-28-2013, 04:19 PM
not always the case when the receiver also does up-conversion of other inputs to HDMI. then the signal can pass through a process.

all connections are subject to digital loss. all contacts, plugs, etc. are sources of resistance.

Well yes, if it's upconverting a non HD signal then of course there will be conversion. But a 1080p HDMI signal would need no conversion and resistance or not there is no quality loss with a digital signal.

Boomsday
03-01-2013, 01:16 PM
The pioneer is a good price, the main difference i see is the onkyo will do internet but only 5.1, the pioneer cannot do internet but 7.1

HDMI Pioneer has 4 input and Onkyo has 6 input

I am not sure if the Pioneer will do Audio Return Channel if you have a smart TV (if you do you need this Audio Return Channel), but the Onlyo will do this


good find on CL though


when you say "do internet" what do you mean??

I found this one as well for a good price

Yamaha RX-V373 Home theater receiver with 3D-ready HDMI switching at Crutchfield.com (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-QhRMhMHEcu0/p_022RXV373/Yamaha-RX-V373.html#customer-reviews-tab)

IndyStreetRacer
03-01-2013, 10:41 PM
I like this Pioneer for the money. Pioneer VSX-1022-K A/V Receiver - 7.1 Channel, 560 Watts Total, HDMI, 3D Ready, Stream Internet Radio, iPod/iPhone Compatible, Black at TigerDirect.com (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2404700&SRCCODE=GOOGLEBASE&cm_mmc_o=VRqCjC7BBTkwCjCECjCE)

keep_hope_alive
03-02-2013, 11:58 AM
Well yes, if it's upconverting a non HD signal then of course there will be conversion. But a 1080p HDMI signal would need no conversion and resistance or not there is no quality loss with a digital signal.

you are assuming that the receiver doesn't do anything to the signal and that it switches it only. but if the receiver tries to always output 1080p then it has to pass every signal through a processor to analyze it.

i have personally seen signal degradation when running HDMI through a receiver vs. direct to a TV. i do not recall if it was upconverting or not.

it's an easy thing to experiment with.

Boomsday
05-09-2013, 10:18 PM
Still do not know what "Do internet" means

naughtyca
05-09-2013, 10:24 PM
Still do not know what "Do internet" means

It means you can hook it up online and get pandora, tune in radio, slacker radio etc and can also get update online

Boomsday
05-09-2013, 10:30 PM
It means you can hook it up online and get pandora, tune in radio, slacker radio etc and can also get update online

oh **** thats what I need then

DoesDad
05-09-2013, 10:31 PM
It means you can hook it up online and get pandora, tune in radio, slacker radio etc and can also get update online

I use Pandora and youtube from the Bluray once in a while for music. I also just run my phone through the receiver. Good sound from Pandora imo. Better than my phone for some reason.

Boomsday
05-09-2013, 10:35 PM
Onkyo TX NR414 5 1 Channel 3 D Ready Network A V Receiver 751398010651 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Onkyo-TX-NR414-5-1-Channel-3-D-Ready-Network-A-V-Receiver-/121107460319?pt=Receivers_Tuners&hash=item1c329130df#ht_4330wt_1019)

Onkyo HT RC330 5 1 Channel Home Theater Receiver 751398009969 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Onkyo-HT-RC330-5-1-CHANNEL-HOME-THEATER-RECEIVER-/370810788114?pt=Receivers_Tuners&hash=item56560b9912#ht_5139wt_1019)

Is it worth the $50 upgrade??

naughtyca
05-09-2013, 10:41 PM
look at accesories4less.com

---------- Post added at 09:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:40 PM ----------

sorry didnt see that was from accesoriesfor less lol

naughtyca
05-09-2013, 10:58 PM
are you ever going to get a smart tv? the ht has arc audio capability and the nr414 does not look like it has it. but it will be nice to have 6 hdmi input(NR414) vs 3 hdmi

naughtyca
05-09-2013, 11:00 PM
this is better for $20 more

Onkyo TX-NR509 5.1-Channel 3-D Ready Network A/V Receiver | Accessories4less (http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXNR509/Onkyo-TX-NR509-5.1-Channel-3-D-Ready-Network-A/V-Receiver/1.html)

naughtyca
05-09-2013, 11:04 PM
or this one for $220 7.2, you can put 2 subs

Onkyo TX-NR515 7.2-Channel Network A/V Receiver | Accessories4less (http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXNR515/Onkyo-TX-NR515-7.2-Channel-Network-A/V-Receiver/1.html)

Boomsday
05-09-2013, 11:38 PM
or this one for $220 7.2, you can put 2 subs

Onkyo TX-NR515 7.2-Channel Network A/V Receiver | Accessories4less (http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXNR515/Onkyo-TX-NR515-7.2-Channel-Network-A/V-Receiver/1.html)

Not sure on the smart tv anytime soon I have a decent tv but unless it breaks or goes out I doubt I will get another one anytime soon...and I have a TC2k and 500watts on my sub stage not sure I would need 2 sub outs

also the 6hdmi vs 3hdmi is it worth $50 for 3 more??

Jetfire
05-24-2013, 04:30 PM
Not sure on the smart tv anytime soon I have a decent tv but unless it breaks or goes out I doubt I will get another one anytime soon...and I have a TC2k and 500watts on my sub stage not sure I would need 2 sub outs

also the 6hdmi vs 3hdmi is it worth $50 for 3 more??

Since you already have a sub for the set up, go with a higher end 2-way that you build yourself. I'm working on tunes in the house, my build log is here (http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?237265-SR71-Speaker-Build-First-Speaker). My speakers are sooo sweet, no distortion and they crank. Only downside is hearing the quality of the music file and/or production value of the tunes.

The forum at PE will help you design the box for that TC-2000. I'm actually using a 12" TC-1000 I had in the closet. My design for the sub is linked in the build log.

I picked up a re-furb from Accessories4less, super happy with the reciever and it has a 1 year warrenty. You can always us a Y to add an additional sub later. Extra HDMI inputs are only worth it if you have the additional sources (or will add them later). Make sure the reciever has network stuff built in! I love having Pandora built into the reciever......plus I can access a computer or media server for music and pictures.

Hope that helps..........

Boomsday
05-24-2013, 07:57 PM
Since you already have a sub for the set up, go with a higher end 2-way that you build yourself. I'm working on tunes in the house, my build log is here (http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?237265-SR71-Speaker-Build-First-Speaker). My speakers are sooo sweet, no distortion and they crank. Only downside is hearing the quality of the music file and/or production value of the tunes.

The forum at PE will help you design the box for that TC-2000. I'm actually using a 12" TC-1000 I had in the closet. My design for the sub is linked in the build log.

I picked up a re-furb from Accessories4less, super happy with the reciever and it has a 1 year warrenty. You can always us a Y to add an additional sub later. Extra HDMI inputs are only worth it if you have the additional sources (or will add them later). Make sure the reciever has network stuff built in! I love having Pandora built into the reciever......plus I can access a computer or media server for music and pictures.

Hope that helps..........

Awesome write up you got there bro, I have already built a box for the sub and purchased a receiver. Still looking for mids and highs tho..I like the way you built yours they are ****, About how big are they?? and you just used the kit from PE??

Jetfire
05-28-2013, 12:39 PM
Awesome write up you got there bro, I have already built a box for the sub and purchased a receiver. Still looking for mids and highs tho..I like the way you built yours they are ****, About how big are they?? and you just used the kit from PE??

Thanks man, I'm loving how they turned out!

I went with a kit from Madisound, found here (http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/2-way-speaker-kits/zaph%7Caudio-sr71-kit-pair-parts-only/). One of the huge bonuses with a kit is the crossover. The designer tweeks it to get the best response. My kit came with pre-assembled XOs. PE has a lot of great kits to, what are you looking at for budget? PM if you want.

Jetfire
05-28-2013, 12:42 PM
About how big are they?

1" tweeter and 7" mid. Overall size is 15" H, 9" W, and 11" D. I made mine a little taller to fit my application. Most people put them on stands. I'm told you want the tweets at ear level.