PDA

View Full Version : Cd7100 vs Deh-80prs



murph
01-27-2013, 08:13 PM
Which one would you go with. I don't care about bluetooth or Ipod controls just sound quality. I will be running this active and can't decide which one to run.

Imtjnotu
01-27-2013, 08:36 PM
i owned both.....menu setup on the 80 prs is alot better along with bass output.....also on the 7100 u seem to have to crank the volume up more to get the results u want but doesnt usually clip until u have hit max volume or sometimes not at all



me tho i love my 80prs more and dont see myself switching back anytime soon or getting rid of my 80 prs

splwj47
01-27-2013, 08:38 PM
80 is a pretty awesome deck. kinda cheaply made though. never used the 7100 so couldnt tell you which is better.

Imtjnotu
01-27-2013, 08:43 PM
80 is a pretty awesome deck. kinda cheaply made though. never used the 7100 so couldnt tell you which is better.

it does feel a little cheap but the sound that comes out is pretty damnnn good

murph
01-27-2013, 08:44 PM
it does feel a little cheap but the sound that comes out is pretty damnnn good

Think I'll pick up the cd7100 and sell it on here, than buy the 80prs.

splwj47
01-27-2013, 08:44 PM
it does feel a little cheap but the sound that comes out is pretty damnnn good

yes, the sound quality from it is awesome.

Imtjnotu
01-27-2013, 08:46 PM
Think I'll pick up the cd7100 and sell it on here, than buy the 80prs.

wont get much from the 7100 anymore.....maybe 200

neo_styles
01-27-2013, 08:48 PM
Can't knock the 8V preouts of the Eclipse. If you were going with any sort of external processing, I'd say the CD7100. Otherwise, the 80 is a little more friendly with the modern world (Fujitsu Ten's interface is horrible) and is a great deck if it's your first time going active. Also, the DAC on the Eclipse is amazing when playing CDs (at least it is on my 7200)...better than the P99RS if I do say so.

One vote against the Pio has to do with that stinkin' pico fuse and lower grade DAC.
One vote against the Eclipse has to do with the user interface and compatibility with iDevices (which you said you didn't care about).

murph
01-27-2013, 08:48 PM
wont get much from the 7100 anymore.....maybe 200

Still would profit.

Alrojoca
01-27-2013, 08:48 PM
I agree with the 8 volt pre outs and issue it may have with older amps or mid range amps. I did not read previous posts and had to edit my post

neo_styles
01-27-2013, 08:51 PM
wouldn't 8 volts preamp voltages on the Eclipse could limit the use of some amplifiers? And as far as options like HD, the Pioneer will have more items available and could be cheaper besides that it already has BT built in.

I may be wrong, my question is, how much better the Eclipse's SQ could it be? Will it be very noticeable? If the price is significantly cheaper and all you care is about sound and other member can confirm or recommend the Eclipse, then go for it.
If not go with the Pioneer just it is newer more flexibility for upgrades and probably for repairs and warranty if it fails.

There's a pretty noticeable difference in SQ between the two. Eclipse's decks are much warmer while the Pioneers tend to favor bass.

---------- Post added at 05:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:51 PM ----------

Also, the only amps I know of that aren't happy with over a 5V input are the Massive nano and nano bit and, if you're going SQ, wouldn't recommend them anyway.

Alrojoca
01-27-2013, 08:54 PM
There's a pretty noticeable difference in SQ between the two. Eclipse's decks are much warmer while the Pioneers tend to favor bass.

---------- Post added at 05:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:51 PM ----------

Also, the only amps I know of that aren't happy with over a 5V input are the Massive nano and nano bit and, if you're going SQ, wouldn't recommend them anyway.

Thanks Neo, for your point of view and helpful information, there it was my edited post above, he he.

neo_styles
01-27-2013, 08:56 PM
murph ; don't forget about the Clarion CZ702. Especially if this is your first trip into SQ and you hate it, it would probably be in your better interests to spend less on the deck and I've seen the Clarions go for under 200 online. Then you don't have to deal with the pico issues of the Pioneer or the super-high preouts of the Eclipse.

whitedragon551
01-27-2013, 09:04 PM
I believe the 80PRS has more bands for tuning. I thought my CD7000 compared to my 9887 had a much more transparent sound to it. The 9887 seemed to make things more warm sounding.

murph
01-27-2013, 09:07 PM
murph ; don't forget about the Clarion CZ702. Especially if this is your first trip into SQ and you hate it, it would probably be in your better interests to spend less on the deck and I've seen the Clarions go for under 200 online. Then you don't have to deal with the pico issues of the Pioneer or the super-high preouts of the Eclipse.

Not my first trip into sq. First active wise but, I know plenty about how to set it up. I like to spend more on a deck it is the brain of the system. High preouts benefit on old school amps because they almost always have higher gain settings than new amps.

neo_styles
01-27-2013, 09:09 PM
I believe the 80PRS has more bands for tuning. I thought my CD7000 compared to my 9887 had a much more transparent sound to it. The 9887 seemed to make things more warm sounding.

Did you have a personal preference between the 9887 and the 7000? I think the 7200mkii is an extremely warm deck...almost reminds me of listening to my vinyl at home sometimes.

whitedragon551
01-27-2013, 09:11 PM
Did you have a personal preference between the 9887 and the 7000? I think the 7200mkii is an extremely warm deck...almost reminds me of listening to my vinyl at home sometimes.

I have had my 9887 for a much longer time that I had my CD7000. I prefer the 9887 iPod controls over the CD7000. As far as sound I want everything as flat and discolored as possible coming from the HU. Even coming off more warm, although it may be a pleasant sound, its still a form of distortion.

neo_styles
01-27-2013, 09:11 PM
Not my first trip into sq. First active wise but, I know plenty about how to set it up. I like to spend more on a deck it is the brain of the system. High preouts benefit on old school amps because they almost always have higher gain settings than new amps.

Well if you're hardcore about it, I'd say step up in cost and get Eclipse's Sound Monitor series. Those will be SQ monsters. That or a McIntosh. Ebay's got a few rolling around for what I think is fair pricing.

neo_styles
01-27-2013, 09:16 PM
I think the deciding factor should come down to what you intend to play on it. CDs? Get Eclipse. iDevices? Get Pioneer. No sense in spending more for features you won't get any benefit out of.