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blakgtp
01-18-2013, 11:19 PM
I've been looking to upgrade the front stage in my grand prix from the current ID ctx6.5 coaxials. I can go either 2 way active or a passive component set. I'd power the comps from a mtx thunder 2300x (old school) amp, 200 watts x 2 channels. Or if I go active, the mtx will power the mids, and a mb quart 100.2 will power the tweets. I like my music loud and absolutely hate harsh highs. so far i have looked at massive audio ck6x, hat imagines, JBL MS-62C, dayton rs180 woofers, silver flute woofers. I listen to a lot of rock/metal and want to make sure there is enough midbass/midrange authority. budget is hopefully <$250

marc2112
01-18-2013, 11:28 PM
This.

http://www.caraudio.com/forums/speaker-classifieds/562116-rare-diamond-audio-technoligies-hex-s600-m-made-eton.html

shadow
01-18-2013, 11:40 PM
I love my Milles.... :yumyum:

marc2112
01-18-2013, 11:53 PM
I love my Milles.... :yumyum:

Me too but he is not gonna get any for 250$.:nono:

marc2112
01-18-2013, 11:53 PM
oops double post..

mclerico83
01-19-2013, 12:06 AM
jbl's

or

RE Audio XXX6.5C (XXX65C) 6.5" 2-Way XXX Component Car Speakers (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_27343_RE-Audio-XXX6.5C.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=productads&gclid=COqTg4DT87QCFQ45nAod6EsA3g)

wont find a bad review great speakers and only one left lol

marc2112
01-19-2013, 12:21 AM
Beyma SCK65 (http://www.audiosavings.com/products/6.5-and-6.75-Car-Speakers/Beyma-SCK65-6.5-320-watt-(Pair)-2-Way-Complete-Component--Speaker-System/SCK65.aspx)

blakgtp
01-19-2013, 12:31 AM
haven't seen the beyma's before. they look nice. I think I'm kinda leaning towards going active though. Should I still buy a comp set and just run them active, or would it be better to buy individual woofers and tweets?

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jbl's

or

RE Audio XXX6.5C (XXX65C) 6.5" 2-Way XXX Component Car Speakers (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_27343_RE-Audio-XXX6.5C.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=productads&gclid=COqTg4DT87QCFQ45nAod6EsA3g)

wont find a bad review great speakers and only one left lol

they look pretty. I just haven't been a fan of the newer re audio stuff

marc2112
01-19-2013, 12:46 AM
If you don't need the crossovers buy them separately.

shadow
01-19-2013, 12:50 AM
I have some HSK's I'll let go for 250 used for just under 7 months...

blakgtp
01-19-2013, 01:01 AM
If you don't need the crossovers buy them separately.

I don't need the crossovers. using a clarion cz702 head unit

blakgtp
01-19-2013, 01:01 AM
If you don't need the crossovers buy them separately.

double post

marc2112
01-19-2013, 01:20 AM
I have some HSK's I'll let go for 250 used for just under 7 months...

Can't go wrong with this if they are authentic.

HSK 165 - Hertz 6.5" 2-Way Hi-Energy Component System (http://www.woofersetc.com/p-9612-hsk-165-hertz-65-2-way-hi-energy-component-system.aspx)

blakgtp
01-19-2013, 01:23 AM
I've been toying with the idea of using the ID mids that I have and get some 2-3 inch fullrange driver in the upper door panel or a piller to play 2000hz and up


http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-2-fullrange/aurasound-nsw2-326-8at-2-full-range/

Timmy13091
01-19-2013, 01:25 AM
Cdt es06+s

shadow
01-19-2013, 01:25 AM
Can't go wrong with this if they are authentic.

HSK 165 - Hertz 6.5" 2-Way Hi-Energy Component System (http://www.woofersetc.com/p-9612-hsk-165-hertz-65-2-way-hi-energy-component-system.aspx)

They the real $hit ....

blakgtp
01-19-2013, 01:25 AM
ugh double post again.

I really don't like buying used. but my friend is looking for something just like that hertz set^ so I'll forward it to him.

I am really leaning towards buying the woofers separate and going active. That way I can save some money since I don't need the crossovers. So what I need is a midwoofer like a dayton rs180 or silver flute, but one that can handle 200watts a piece. and a matching tweeter. Since the midwoofer will be mounted off axis I'd like to get large format tweeters and cross them around 2000hz

blakgtp
01-19-2013, 02:47 PM
how low could I cross the tweeters?

The Madisound Speaker Store (http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/ring-radiator-tweeters/vifa-xt25sc90-04-ring-radiator-tweeter/)

blakgtp
01-19-2013, 02:48 PM
how low could I cross the tweeters?

The Madisound Speaker Store (http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/ring-radiator-tweeters/vifa-xt25sc90-04-ring-radiator-tweeter/)

PHD - USA
01-19-2013, 03:54 PM
how low could I cross the tweeters?

The Madisound Speaker Store (http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/ring-radiator-tweeters/vifa-xt25sc90-04-ring-radiator-tweeter/)

I generally start out around 3.2khz and move down from there.

blakgtp
01-19-2013, 11:54 PM
changed my budget to $180. I'm very tempted to buy the JBL MS-62C comps. Unless I can out do those with buying individual woofer and tweeters. How would silver flutes paired with SEAS Prestige 27TFFNC/G tweets compare to the jbl's?

blakgtp
01-21-2013, 01:43 AM
thanks for all the suggestions guys. I finally took the plunge and ordered a pair of the silver flute 6.5 mids.
The Madisound Speaker Store (http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/silver-flute-woofers-6-7/silver-flute-w17rc38-04-ohm-6-1/2-wool-cone/)

now I just need to chose a tweeter. I want a fairly "laid back" or "warm" sounding tweeter. budget is $40 per tweeter. thanks in advance

marc2112
01-21-2013, 02:07 AM
Had alu tweeters with my diamonds and loved them.

The Madisound Speaker Store (http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/hard-dome-tweeter/seas-prestige-27tafnc/g-h1397-1-aluminum-dome-tweeter/)

blakgtp
01-21-2013, 02:13 AM
is that basically the same as this one but in an aluminum dome instead of textile? would there be much of a sound difference between the two?
The Madisound Speaker Store (http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/auto-tweeters/seas-prestige-27tffnc/g-h1396-1-textile-dome-tweeter/)

RicksI30
01-21-2013, 02:21 AM
I run these and LOVE them. Vifa NE25VTS-04 1" Silk Dome Tweeter 264-1034 (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=264-1034)

marc2112
01-21-2013, 02:33 AM
is that basically the same as this one but in an aluminum dome instead of textile? would there be much of a sound difference between the two?

I love metal music and alu seems more detailed. Harsh at first but gets better after a while. Try both if you are not sure.. 40$ is not the end of the world.

blakgtp
01-21-2013, 02:46 AM
I love metal music and alu seems more detailed. Harsh at first but gets better after a while. Try both if you are not sure.. 40$ is not the end of the world.

yeah, but I have kind of found out over the last couple years that I absolutely hate any kind of harsh sounding highs/vocals. Although I also like metal music, so I'll have to think about it a bit more

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I run these and LOVE them. Vifa NE25VTS-04 1" Silk Dome Tweeter 264-1034 (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=264-1034)

Would you classify these tweets as laid back? What type of music do you mostly listen to?

RicksI30
01-21-2013, 02:54 AM
Would you classify these tweets as laid back? What type of music do you mostly listen to?
Very much so. I listen to a lot of rock, house music, rap, and country. They can get very loud and take a lot of power while not sounding harsh.

blakgtp
01-21-2013, 03:04 AM
Very much so. I listen to a lot of rock, house music, rap, and country. They can get very loud and take a lot of power while not sounding harsh.

sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. where did you have them mounted?

RicksI30
01-21-2013, 03:09 AM
sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. where did you have them mounted?

They are currently high and to the front in my doors. I'm probably going to put them in my a pillars to raise the stage a bit. Overall I really am pleased with them.

blakgtp
01-21-2013, 03:24 AM
k. went ahead and bought the vifa's. can't wait for them to arrive. thanks for all the help guys

blakgtp
02-22-2013, 09:29 PM
So I know it's been a while, but I've been busy. Plan on installing the silver flutes soon. Is it worth it to make an angled baffle so the woofer is more on axis? or should I just mount them on a flat baffle to the door?

zako
02-23-2013, 04:57 AM
So I know it's been a while, but I've been busy. Plan on installing the silver flutes soon. Is it worth it to make an angled baffle so the woofer is more on axis? or should I just mount them on a flat baffle to the door?

For a 6 inch woofer, sound dispersion starts becoming directional at about 2KHz, and you can experience a dip as big as -10dB past 2.5KHz. However, you can certainly use equalizer to adjust the woofer's frequency response in the upper mid-range, as long as it can actually play accurately in upper frequencies. Another solution is to let the tweeter play down to like 2.5KHz, then it won't matter if the woofer is on axis or off axis. However, a tweeter may sound harsh the lower you crossover it if you like to play loud music. The seas tweeter resonance frequency is at ~1.1KHz, so I think 2.5KHz HP with a sharp slope should be doable. If you have a good equalizer to bring up woofer's upper midrange or if you install woofers more on axis, I think it would be preferable to HP the tweeter at like 4KHz for smoother sound.