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thesethguy
01-16-2013, 01:45 PM
So, to say the least, it's been about 7 years since I've touched or even thought about aftermarket car audio.

It's time to install a nice system though, and I'm undecided on speakers.

To start, I hope to use an old amp I have been keeping in storage (tested and still works). It's an Infinity Reference 7540a (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-RbAa8caA0cB/p_108R7540A/Infinity-Reference-7540a.html), approx 110w RMS per channel.

I want to hook it up to 6.5's all around or 6.5's + 6x9 rear (all 2-ways). My budget is roughly $200-$300 for the speakers themselves, and I'll be getting a monoblock amp and sub outside of that budget. The goal is SQ.

At the moment, I have picked out either the Focal CVX (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_15057_Focal-690-CVX.html) line of speakers or the Infinity Kappa's (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_13964_Infinity-Kappa-692.9I.html). They are only slightly different in price $110-$150 (SonicElectronix) and from what I've read on these forums, quite a few people highly recommend Focal. So I'm leaning towards Focal at the moment, but if anyone has an opinion, I'd love to hear it.

My other question is, will the speakers be able to adequately handle the ~110w that the Infinity puts out, or would they have a difficult time? Would it be wise to look into other amp options?

Thanks!
Seth

audiobaun
01-16-2013, 02:21 PM
I highly recommend these for front stage,as I myself have, on an old school Autotek Mean Machine 99 at the moment, and they sound fantastic
WoofersEtc.com - HD-63it - CDT Audio HD-6.5" 2-Way Braxial Component Set (http://www.woofersetc.com/p-9700-hd-63it-cdt-audio-hd-65-2-way-braxial-component-set.aspx)
Though, not knowing your maximum budget for both sets of speakers, these may be out of your price range?

thesethguy
01-16-2013, 02:27 PM
I highly recommend these for front stage,as I myself have, on an old school Autotek Mean Machine 99 at the moment, and they sound fantastic
WoofersEtc.com - HD-63it - CDT Audio HD-6.5" 2-Way Braxial Component Set (http://www.woofersetc.com/p-9700-hd-63it-cdt-audio-hd-65-2-way-braxial-component-set.aspx)
Though, not knowing your maximum budget for both sets of speakers, these may be out of your price range?

lol, yeah... those are definitely out of my price range. I wish I could get those though.

audiobaun
01-16-2013, 02:29 PM
lol, yeah... those are definitely out of my price range. I wish I could get those though.

What is your max budget for upfront components?Rearfill/6x9?JBL make some very nice speakers,as well as Polk for the money

T.I.K.
01-16-2013, 02:29 PM
Most massive comp sets are decent from what I've heard.

audiobaun
01-16-2013, 02:33 PM
Most massive comp sets are decent from what I've heard.

The high end models are nice/fair, but the lowerend are not worth the money, as I have tried both, and was not pleased with them at all..Ive tried several different brands of components, and ended with CDT.Image Dynamics are a great set for the money
Image Dynamics CTX-6.5cs (CTX 65 CS) 6.5" CTX Component Speakers (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_22330_Image-Dynamics-CTX-6.5cs.html)
I dont recommend Massive

thesethguy
01-16-2013, 02:36 PM
What is your max budget for upfront components?Rearfill/6x9?JBL make some very nice speakers,as well as Polk for the money

If it would be more practical to just skip the rear stage and only get a front stage component set, then I could work with it up to $300.

audiobaun
01-16-2013, 02:42 PM
JBL P660C 6-1/2" 2-way Power Series Component Speakers System (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_12260_JBL-P660C.html)
I put two sets of these in a friends 05 ford double cab, on an old school Hifonics Viii Jupiter, and they sounded fantastic for the money

audiobaun
01-16-2013, 02:47 PM
If it would be more practical to just skip the rear stage and only get a front stage component set, then I could work with it up to $300.

front stage would be where I suggest to spend the most amount of money on,and get the best you can for your money,and not so much on the rearfill,as it may overwhelm the front stage,even with the substage running at the same time.Even though, I do recommend rearfill for Imaging,as I run myself in an xcab chevy,at low volume,and amped,it does make a big difference in my opinion, and I do recommend having,at least a midrage level of sound,to give you that over all surround imaging

thesethguy
01-16-2013, 02:52 PM
front stage would be where I suggest to spend the most amount of money on,and get the best you can for your money,and not so much on the rearfill,as it may overwhelm the front stage,even with the substage running at the same time.Even though, I do recommend rearfill for Imaging,as I run myself in an xcab chevy,at low volume,and amped,it does make a big difference in my opinion, and I do recommend having,at least a midrage level of sound,to give you that over all surround imaging

Interesting, thank you.

Now if I do decide to go the coaxial route (because I'm not too sure the wife will want me mounting tweeters up front) do you have any suggestions? I'm afraid to put too much rms to each speaker if they're rated around 60-80w. Does it really matter if it's a quality speaker?

audiobaun
01-16-2013, 02:55 PM
Rearfill doesnt have to be expensive..these go down to 45htz even, and are not expensive..You will not need that 100watts to push them, maybe only 30-50 watts to keep up tha imaging,as you tune everything in the way you like it?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/POWERBASS-S-693-6X9-3-WAY-210W-CAR-AUDIO-SPEAKERS-NEW-/110880788672?pt=Car_Speakers&hash=item19d10290c0

audiobaun
01-16-2013, 02:58 PM
Interesting, thank you.

Now if I do decide to go the coaxial route (because I'm not too sure the wife will want me mounting tweeters up front) do you have any suggestions? I'm afraid to put too much rms to each speaker if they're rated around 60-80w. Does it really matter if it's a quality speaker?

I highly recommend component for running up front, as you generally can find better selection of speakers,as well as power handiling,and sound quality as well,as imaging

mylows10
01-16-2013, 03:01 PM
you can always do the cdt cl 61 cv ,its a convertible component set that can be mounted like a coaxial .

audiobaun
01-16-2013, 03:03 PM
As for a two way speaker, Im running these up front at the moment in my 99 honda CRv and on headunit power, yet, have had them on 60 rms of power, and sound fantastic for the money
Polk Audio DB651 2 Way 6 5" 200 Watts Marine Car Audio Speakers 047192112784 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/POLK-AUDIO-DB651-2-Way-6-5-200-WATTS-MARINE-CAR-AUDIO-SPEAKERS-/400374360915?pt=Car_Speakers&hash=item5d382beb53)
Not bad for the money,decent sounding speakers,especially with a little bit of amplified power 30-60 rms even

audiobaun
01-16-2013, 03:06 PM
you can always do the cdt cl 61 cv ,its a convertible component set that can be mounted like a coaxial .

I have the CL-60 series, and they sound amazing..Anything that CDT make, sound excellent..not from word of mouth, but from experiencing,and these that mr mylows suggest, give you two options, to run as a coaxial, and component set

audiobaun
01-16-2013, 03:10 PM
it is very important to know just as well, as what vehicle these speakers are going in, as some of these speakers may be too deep for the locations?What vehicle are you putting the speakers in?

thesethguy
01-16-2013, 03:13 PM
it is very important to know just as well, as what vehicle these speakers are going in, as some of these speakers may be too deep for the locations?What vehicle are you putting the speakers in?

03 Elantra Sedan.

Just Googled the depth available in the front and it looks like 2.25" with the windows down.

audiobaun
01-16-2013, 03:20 PM
The Image dynamics are too deep, but the CDT, and the Polk, and JBL will fit depth wise.All three are great speakers,the CDT would be my first choice out of the three

audiobaun
01-16-2013, 03:23 PM
New Pair Polk Audio MM651 6 5" 2 Way Car Stereo Speakers 200W Marine Boat Grade 047192114511 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Pair-Polk-Audio-MM651-6-5-2-way-Car-Stereo-Speakers-200W-Marine-Boat-Grade-/200806656642?pt=Car_Speakers&hash=item2ec1026a82)
Wouldnt have to worry about these getting a little wet either

thesethguy
01-16-2013, 03:24 PM
The Image dynamics are too deep, but the CDT, and the Polk, and JBL will fit depth wise.All three are great speakers,the CDT would be my first choice out of the three

I really appreciate the help. I'll talk to my lady about the CDT component set. If she doesn't want tweeters mounted, then it looks like we'll go with the Polk dB series coaxials.

The Polk's handle the wattage I want to power to them too which is nice.

thesethguy
01-16-2013, 03:25 PM
New Pair Polk Audio MM651 6 5" 2 Way Car Stereo Speakers 200W Marine Boat Grade 047192114511 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Pair-Polk-Audio-MM651-6-5-2-way-Car-Stereo-Speakers-200W-Marine-Boat-Grade-/200806656642?pt=Car_Speakers&hash=item2ec1026a82)
Wouldnt have to worry about these getting a little wet either

dang, those are just outside the depth I need...

audiobaun
01-16-2013, 03:26 PM
dang, those are just outside the depth I need...

I just thought about that too

audiobaun
01-16-2013, 03:30 PM
6 5" CDT Audio HD 65NX High Definition "Slim" Coaxial | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-5-CDT-Audio-HD-65NX-High-Definition-Slim-Coaxial-/160424763678?pt=Car_Speakers&hash=item255a0fa11e)
These are slim..@Mylows10,can get you these with full warranty,and the newest series..good man to deal with, and excellent products with excellent service as well

marleyskater420
01-16-2013, 04:33 PM
I was in the same boat as you OP. I got out of audio when David was still as Resonant Engineering, and "custom" subs didn't just have a different basket and dustcap..

With that said, I love CDT.(look at my sig..I think I have all their Es-0 stuff hahah) I really enjoy their warm and clean sound. I listen to a lot of metal and occassional funk, so strong midbass ( Rob Zombie comes to mind) or some old musical funkiness ( War "spill the wine") really are my test tracks when I listen to new speakers.

I can tell you that 50$ more on a well-balanced frontstage can pay off quite well.

Also, if you are a DIY guy, things like some old Mach5's, or some peerless/vifa/dayton drivers would be a good choice, and pick up a separate xover for them. However the cdt's work so well becauss they wete designed as "packages", so to speak. Their crossovers are tailored to make their speakers sound phenominal(as all companies do with their products).

I think you might enjoy the hd62's, or perhaps some vifa Xt25 tweeters and some SLS drivers from peerless if you have the room.

I can only tell you that before I got into the system I habe now, it all started with listening to some cdt es-06's free air..

This isn't my main hobby,either. I have a 87 grand national that is mid-build, so if I can justify taking money away from a car like that to put towards cdt...that should tell you a lot.

trumpet
01-16-2013, 04:41 PM
6 5" CDT Audio HD 65NX High Definition "Slim" Coaxial | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-5-CDT-Audio-HD-65NX-High-Definition-Slim-Coaxial-/160424763678?pt=Car_Speakers&hash=item255a0fa11e)
These are slim..@Mylows10,can get you these with full warranty,and the newest series..good man to deal with, and excellent products with excellent service as well

HD65NX is on the way out with ES-6CFX as the model to replace them.

audiobaun
01-16-2013, 06:42 PM
HD65NX is on the way out with ES-6CFX as the model to replace them.

Thanks for letting us all know:)