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neo_styles
12-13-2012, 11:42 PM
Quick question, guys. I'm looking at picking up supplies from Home Depot either tomorrow or Saturday for an install. This is pretty much exactly what kind of baffle I'll be making; bottom plate is 1/2" and ring is 3/4"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/skylar112/Passat/Passengersidedoor.jpg

Question is, what type and size of screws should I be looking to pick up for the project? I've heard sheet metal screws, but don't know what length. 1"? 1 3/4"? Looking for advice.

neo_styles
12-13-2012, 11:44 PM
Forgot to mention that I also have Titebond III on hand, not sure if that makes a difference.

VisceralSound
12-13-2012, 11:46 PM
Quick question, guys. I'm looking at picking up supplies from Home Depot either tomorrow or Saturday for an install. This is pretty much exactly what kind of baffle I'll be making; bottom plate is 1/2" and ring is 3/4"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/skylar112/Passat/Passengersidedoor.jpg

Question is, what type and size of screws should I be looking to pick up for the project? I've heard sheet metal screws, but don't know what length. 1"? 1 3/4"? Looking for advice.

Long enough to not go through your car door so 1.5-1.75" long would work.
^1.5-1.7" for the section that's 1.25" thick, you could get away with shorter screws for the thinner layer.

neo_styles
12-13-2012, 11:52 PM
So would 1/4 extra for each section work? That would be 3/4" for the back plate and 1.5" for the ring+plate.

audiobaun
12-13-2012, 11:53 PM
Id use 1" for the 1/2 plate, and for the 3/4 in ring, Id use 1.25-1.50.. the bottom plate will be screwed to the door,secured,/then the baffle should be attatched to the bottom plate,though I would not have more than 1/2 in inside the door panel,.You can use thin self square head self tapping screws for the bottom plate, and wood screws for the baffle.

VisceralSound
12-13-2012, 11:54 PM
So would 1/4 extra for each section work? That would be 3/4" for the back plate and 1.5" for the ring+plate.

I wouldn't see why not, it's not a subwoofer so I doubt it'll have enough force to come loose.

neo_styles
12-13-2012, 11:59 PM
Awesome. And just a stab in the dark, this being not a sub and all...Liquid Nails = overkill?

audiobaun
12-14-2012, 12:01 AM
RV Teardrop Trailer 1" x 6 Square Head Self Tapping Stainless Steel Screws | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RV-Teardrop-Trailer-1-X-6-Square-Head-Self-Tapping-Stainless-Steel-Screws-/261113953222?pt=Motors_RV_Trailer_Camper_Parts_Acc essories&hash=item3ccb9abbc6&vxp=mtr)
Kinda like these here, but a flat head,these are hard to strip out, as Phillips do under stress

audiobaun
12-14-2012, 12:07 AM
8 8x 1 5 8" 305 SS Square Dr Flat acq Deck Screws w Nibs Ultra Sharp Point | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-8x-1-5-8-305-SS-SQUARE-DR-FLAT-ACQ-DECK-SCREWS-W-Nibs-Ultra-Sharp-Point-/350666726683?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51a55d9d1b)
I use these type on wood to wood,and sub mounting,sometimes I use a Hex Deck screw for mounting as well.screw in very nicely,without stripping the head.

neo_styles
12-14-2012, 12:07 AM
RV Teardrop Trailer 1" x 6 Square Head Self Tapping Stainless Steel Screws | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RV-Teardrop-Trailer-1-X-6-Square-Head-Self-Tapping-Stainless-Steel-Screws-/261113953222?pt=Motors_RV_Trailer_Camper_Parts_Acc essories&hash=item3ccb9abbc6&vxp=mtr)
Kinda like these here, but a flat head,these are hard to strip out, as Phillips do under stress

I see where you're going. Any chance I could bother you to pull a few links from THD so I can add it to my list? I have the app so it makes it ridiculously easy to stay focused when I'm in-store.

audiobaun
12-14-2012, 12:10 AM
I see where you're going. Any chance I could bother you to pull a few links from THD so I can add it to my list? I have the app so it makes it ridiculously easy to stay focused when I'm in-store.
Ill see what I can find/and I use

neo_styles
12-14-2012, 12:12 AM
Ill see what I can find/and I use

Thank you. I definitely appreciate it.

Additionally, how does this look for a cable cutter/stripper for everything up to Knu KCA 0ga?
8 in. Wire Cutters-PWC9 at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware/h_d1/N-25ecodZ5yc1vZc1xy/R-100174049/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=wire+cutter&storeId=10051#.UMq0xm_BF8E)

audiobaun
12-14-2012, 12:14 AM
Decking Hardware - Decking - Lumber & Composites*at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZbqpr/h_d2/Navigation?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&storeId=10051#/?c=1&1z0zte0=1z0zte0)
I generally use these here for anything for wood to wood..Its also kinda hard for those guys to take easily without the bit:D

audiobaun
12-14-2012, 12:16 AM
#9 x 2-1/2 in. Green Polymer-Plated Steel Flat-Head Star Wood Screws (5 lb. Pack)-735002 at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/Lumber-Composites-Decking-Decking-Hardware/h_d1/N-5yc1vZbqprZ1z0zte0Z1z0ztdg/R-202308665/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&storeId=10051#.UMq2C3ekb20)
I like to use these for securing my subs to my enclosure

neo_styles
12-14-2012, 12:17 AM
Decking Hardware - Decking - Lumber & Composites*at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZbqpr/h_d2/Navigation?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&storeId=10051#/?c=1&1z0zte0=1z0zte0)
I generally use these here for anything for wood to wood..Its also kinda hard for those guys to take easily without the bit:D

I like the idea of the anti-theft...unfortunately the smallest size for those screws in stock at my location are 1 5/8"...won't that be too much penetration?

audiobaun
12-14-2012, 12:26 AM
Sheet Metal - Screws - Fasteners - Hardware - Tools & Hardware*at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZc2bw/h_d2/Navigation?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&storeId=10051#/?c=1&rpp=96&Nao=384..Self) tappers on end such as these, but are flat headed /perfect for wood like these
Sheet Metal - Screws - Fasteners - Hardware - Tools & Hardware*at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZc2bw/h_d2/Navigation?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&storeId=10051#/?c=1&rpp=96&Nao=384)
LOL easier to find in the store for me than online..yet these have the square head/used bit to screw them in..work Great!!

neo_styles
12-14-2012, 12:29 AM
Darn HD links...it takes me to all the sheet metal screws on the second one you just posted. Both, for that matter.

At least I know what to look for now, but would you mind answering my question about the bolt cutter? Just need something that's going to be able to grip, strip, and cut my Knu KCA 0ga.

audiobaun
12-14-2012, 12:32 AM
I like the idea of the anti-theft...unfortunately the smallest size for those screws in stock at my location are 1 5/8"...won't that be too much penetration?
Wood through wood,3/4+1/2= out to 1in,5/8in maybe a little less due to actual wood thickness,and can always add small washers if you dont feel comfortable with that much , but Ive never had a problem

audiobaun
12-14-2012, 12:38 AM
Thank you. I definitely appreciate it.

Additionally, how does this look for a cable cutter/stripper for everything up to Knu KCA 0ga?
8 in. Wire Cutters-PWC9 at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware/h_d1/N-25ecodZ5yc1vZc1xy/R-100174049/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=wire+cutter&storeId=10051#.UMq0xm_BF8E)

It looks pretty good,Ive never used one of those,I generally just use a box knife that holds a razor blade to strip the 0 ga/or just a sharp pocket knife, and use wire cutters to cut the wirehttp://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware-Hand-Tools-Cutting-Tools-Utility-Knives-Blades/h_d1/N-5yc1vZc21p/h_d2/Navigation?catalogId=10053&Nu=P_PARENT_ID&langId=-1&storeId=10051&currentPLP=true&omni=c_Utility%20Knives%20&%20Blades&searchNav=true

neo_styles
12-14-2012, 12:40 AM
Wood through wood,3/4+1/2= out to 1in,5/8in maybe a little less due to actual wood thickness,and can always add small washers if you dont feel comfortable with that much , but Ive never had a problem

If you've had good luck with it, then I trust you. Just wish I didn't have to get a pound of them since I'll only be using about 8 of them per side for the ring.

Ack this wire cutter thing is driving me nuts. They do tool rentals too, right?

UnderFire
12-14-2012, 12:48 AM
I use a set of these to strip large wire, air hose cutters gates - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=ms-android-att-us&tbo=d&v=133247963&biw=320&bih=533&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=air+hose+cutters+gates&oq=air+hose+cutters+gates&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3...21314.22492.0.23080.6.6.0.0.0.0.399.694.2-1j1.2.0...0.0...1ac.1.XAlpuXxRz3E#i=4), meant for air hose, but works great for cutting the jacket and keeping the wire intact.

audiobaun
12-14-2012, 12:48 AM
Titanium 8 in. Muti-Purpose Snip-18039 at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware/h_d1/N-25ecodZ5yc1vZ25ecodZc1xy/R-202535661/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=wire+cutters&storeId=10051#product_description)
These will be used over and over/several times/cut like butter through wire,even Fisk Garden ones are excellent!

neo_styles
12-14-2012, 12:56 AM
Titanium 8 in. Muti-Purpose Snip-18039 at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware/h_d1/N-25ecodZ5yc1vZ25ecodZc1xy/R-202535661/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=wire+cutters&storeId=10051#product_description)
These will be used over and over/several times/cut like butter through wire,even Fisk Garden ones are excellent!

So how is it in Los Angeles, the one thing you're showing me that I know will work isn't in stock. I'll check the nearby stores now.

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Nope. Nobody has that particular one. Just my luck...

audiobaun
12-14-2012, 12:57 AM
If you've had good luck with it, then I trust you. Just wish I didn't have to get a pound of them since I'll only be using about 8 of them per side for the ring.

Ack this wire cutter thing is driving me nuts. They do tool rentals too, right?
You can get a small box/plastic bag of those 1in-1.25 self tapping phillips headed sheetmetal screws will work just fine for you,I think.If you are just cutting a small amount for yourself, a box blade works just fine for the stripping of the plastic jacket ,and wire cutters/or the Garden Fisk pruners/cutters will cut that wire like butter,just like cutting your hair..lol

neo_styles
12-14-2012, 01:02 AM
Lol that's what I'm after. Yeah, I appreciate the help and was loving the idea of those box-head bolts, but I know I'll be murdered if I'm trying to house my leftover supplies in our condo. Appreciate the help, Audio and I'm glad you helped me with the research. I'll be posting up a build log for all of this, too. Hopefully this weekend, but we had hail and sub-40 degree weather here today, so I'm not sure...

audiobaun
12-14-2012, 01:04 AM
so how is it in los angeles, the one thing you're showing me that i know will work isn't in stock. I'll check the nearby stores now.

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nope. Nobody has that particular one. Just my luck...

lol..****!

audiobaun
12-14-2012, 01:07 AM
Lol that's what I'm after. Yeah, I appreciate the help and was loving the idea of those box-head bolts, but I know I'll be murdered if I'm trying to house my leftover supplies in our condo. Appreciate the help, Audio and I'm glad you helped me with the research. I'll be posting up a build log for all of this, too. Hopefully this weekend, but we had hail and sub-40 degree weather here today, so I'm not sure...

When I lived in some apartments here in Tx, Id go to an empty car wash,and crank up the heat,till I got ran off the second time..lol

neo_styles
12-14-2012, 01:07 AM
No worries, found a pair of Fiskars shears (the ones you mentioned aren't carried here) that claim to cut a max thickness of a hair under 5/8" and lucky me, that's the exact length of the Knu with sheath. It's now in my list.

audiobaun
12-14-2012, 01:09 AM
No worries, found a pair of Fiskars shears (the ones you mentioned aren't carried here) that claim to cut a max thickness of a hair under 5/8" and lucky me, that's the exact length of the Knu with sheath. It's now in my list.

You will use those to cut all your wire from now on after you use them

neo_styles
12-14-2012, 01:12 AM
That's what I'm hoping. Beats the hell out of the dikes I'm using that came with my toolkit now.

neo_styles
12-14-2012, 01:24 AM
Sorry for so many questions, but I have another.

Going off the pic in the first post, if I traced the shapes out on the MDF with a sharpie in store, do you think they'd cut it all out? I've heard them do this for guys with box builds, but don't know if it's closely related enough to this since the cuts are a bit more complex. Additionally, am I looking at free for the cut or extra cost?

Wish I could use someone else's workbench, but I don't know anyone with these tools at the ready and having THD do it is infinitely more convenient.

audiobaun
12-14-2012, 01:50 AM
They may do it..doesnt hurt to ask..all they can say is No??Ive never had them cut anything for me..So man I really dont know.I have used welding machines /ect from a High school Like FFa group/HS wood working class/shop..They will do it for free, or let you use the tools alot of times,and even cabinet making shop?Im not sure if HD would,it may take too much time out for them not to charge for prem/cuts?

neo_styles
12-14-2012, 02:13 AM
Yeah, I'm at the point of deciding whether it's worth it to get a cheap jig and just do it solo, but I know that thing will stay in the closet for a looooooong time. Not to mention there's no workhorse at my disposal.