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neo_styles
12-12-2012, 10:14 PM
Items Purchased: TCA 14ga Speaker Wire, Klarity RCA 5m (x2), CCA 0ga (6ft), 0ga to 4ga adapter (x2), and MiniANL Fuse Holder

I just made my first purchase on Knu for the items mentioned above. Total was just over 50 shipped. Ordered on Saturday, delivered to my door in Los Angeles today via USPS Priority.

TCA Speaker Wire
First and foremost, this stuff is CRAZY cheap. At 22 cents a foot, I considered it a no-brainer. The stuff is amazingly flexible and well-jacketed. I don't have a gage dial, so I can't confirm it's true to gage, but looks like it is on visual inspection.

Klarity 5m RCA
Got two of these, one for the front channel and another for subs from the deck to my amp. Like that they're well sheathed (again, seems to be a trend with Knu), but noticed that for the built-in remote wire, there's barely any actual wire in there! If someone knows, can you tell me what gage I'm looking at here? I'd swear it's 50. Realistically, it's probably 28, but I don't even know how I'm going to strip this wire without cutting off completely. Or what barrel connectors I can use that will keep a grip on it. I think Knu intended for you to solder this one in. For now, it loses points, but I'll give some back as long as it does the trick.

KCA 0ga Ground Wire
OK, there's no way this stuff is 0 ga. I have 0ga sitting in my trunk right now that a buddy got me from his shop. The bare wire in this stuff is the size of that entire wire, including sheath. More like 00 gage, if such a thing exists. Point is, it's beefy and probably the largest chunk of bare wire I've come across yet. Even so, it's INSANELY flexible. I didn't realize something with this high a strand count could bend so easily. It's borderline flimsy, but you know, in a good way. Kinda glad I got the 4ga adapters for this stuff because I'd rather use that than shave it down. The definite winner of the haul and I will be ordering more of this stuff when it's time to upgrade the rest of my wiring.

0ga to 4ga adapter
Not much to talk about here except it looks pretty well machined and the set screw seems rugged enough to take a gronk or two. Verified to work in both 4ga inputs of my amps (see sig).

MiniANL Fuse Holder
This was more of an accidental purchase considering I wanted to get the ANL, but I'll make it work since I've got plenty of 4ga and am only wiring to one amp. I was just too lazy to call back and change the order...I do like that it includes the 8ga plug so you don't need to excessively turn the set screw. The 150a fuse that came with it is rugged, but I was disappointed by the fact I had to completely remove the retaining screws on both sides to fit the fuse. At least I know it's not coming out any time soon. Construction is solid, plastic seems pretty durable, but only time will tell how well it holds up. Bottom surface is as flat as Kiera Knightly's naughty bits, so double-sided tape to mount to the battery will hold easily.


As for customer service, looks like they have it well taken care of. Shipping was insanely fast considering it came from the other side of the country in just three days (Priority normally takes at least one more to come here) and I received shipping notification before USPS did.

I will update this review as I do my install this weekend as far as ease of routing is concerned as well as function. And pics will follow...just need to charge the camera. I don't want to take these with the iPhone. You deserve better quality.

neo_styles
12-12-2012, 10:49 PM
While I'm waiting on the camera to charge, I pulled the 0ga I already had out from the car. It was GME which I've found at plenty of shops locally. Putting that next to my fuse holder, It looks like it'll fit in just fine. So maybe it's more of a diss against GME, but outer diameter is the same on both.

neo_styles
12-13-2012, 12:02 AM
OK, so I promised pics...this'll be going over two separate posts.

First,
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nJN3Aah4dcE/UMlfA_sO0wI/AAAAAAAAGXA/LfByuGQXUu4/s1095/DSC00824.JPG
Everything shown except for the TCA speaker wire. I rolled that up on a 50ft spool of Arista 16ga I emptied and set it aside.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--Ku8ReDXwnI/UMlfA2umUxI/AAAAAAAAGXA/QBEXHDZ_O3Y/s1095/DSC00825.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OTd-rbxRFME/UMlfA9GROuI/AAAAAAAAGXA/JwerB6GbMjM/s1095/DSC00826.JPG
Here's the Klarity RCA. At first, I wasn't pleased with the fact that the endcaps are plastic, but realize that could actually help out with blocking out unwanted interference. As you can see in the second shot, the remote wire is THIN. I was able to successfully strip it using a pair of Vise-Grip cutters I got on Amazon (highly recommend if you'll be stripping wire often.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4nx8W4kN7Rk/UMlfCF4b92I/AAAAAAAAGXA/1Y2ljDlSBBk/s1095/DSC00827.JPG
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qWR1f2Ojf9w/UMlfFFJTgBI/AAAAAAAAGXA/2Arp9OqCsc4/s1095/DSC00835.JPG
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-01z3VGOtLqY/UMlfGO4zwOI/AAAAAAAAGXA/Kbj4Lr1hrKo/s1095/DSC00836.JPG
Look at all that pretty conductor wire...I wasn't kidding when I said this was the most copper I've ever seen. The second photo really shows off the difference in quality. And I even included the third for the obligatory flex test which it passed with flying colors.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HDFXrjdlvOY/UMlfCtly6lI/AAAAAAAAGXA/0Zz9qxe9AY0/s1095/DSC00828.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6L0sq34XPyE/UMlfCU4LTNI/AAAAAAAAGXA/raRg6HJlqP4/s1095/DSC00829.JPG
Once again, nothing special, but I do like the rugged quality of that set screw. Looks like it can take some abuse.

neo_styles
12-13-2012, 12:09 AM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tOvImEjvaqE/UMlfDYRRO2I/AAAAAAAAGXA/jaKhckBBc6s/s1095/DSC00831.JPG
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qRPC54BTvpM/UMlfEMFvV0I/AAAAAAAAGXA/8KOX69E3BRA/s1095/DSC00832.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OCMmaHk3FYM/UMlfEStF0-I/AAAAAAAAGXA/lRlQ5LXE2ak/s1095/DSC00833.JPG
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-u0EAbaDSsdk/UMlfE5sinTI/AAAAAAAAGXA/K5n0cJd4Kpc/s1095/DSC00834.JPG
Now for the fuse holder. Clean, simple, no fancy shmancy voltage meter. The underside definitely looks ready for some double-sided tape...just wish it was included.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Hvsf-cl_N_Y/UMlfGPWSLFI/AAAAAAAAGXA/xUvCUOTU3hM/s1095/DSC00837.JPG
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uIU5uXY5Fow/UMlfGtQf1eI/AAAAAAAAGXA/oHpymmf0mHQ/s1095/DSC00839.JPG
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-68P4xXuH6FQ/UMlfHPJVkMI/AAAAAAAAGXA/v2b4s7GraDg/s1095/DSC00840.JPG
Finally, the speaker wire. Sturdy insulation, definitely true to gage, and I like that the sheath has just enough tack to make it stay put when set down on a solid surface. Some people make theirs too slick and it drives me nuts. I got 30 feet of this stuff and after laying it all out, I think I'm gonna upgrade the HT wire to this stuff as well. Big bonus is that the negative side has a thick black stripe running the entire length of the sheath. You shouldn't have to worry about confusing polarity with this stuff.

That's it for now, I'll post up some pics of this stuff in place. I'll use up as much of the 0ga as I can on the Big 3 and probably order more as necessary.

West
12-13-2012, 12:25 AM
Knu usually makes great wire... but I have lost faith in their RCA's... They look solid but I've been having noise issues and one of my friends knu sets, well one of the 4 channels went out. IDK...

neo_styles
12-13-2012, 12:27 AM
Knu usually makes great wire... but I have lost faith in their RCA's... They look solid but I've been having noise issues and one of my friends knu sets, well one of the 4 channels went out. IDK...

Worst case, I'm out 7 bucks and I'll just order a pair of dblink or something else, but I'll remain optimistic. It's definitely better visual build quality than what I normally run into.

West
12-13-2012, 12:29 AM
Worst case, I'm out 7 bucks and I'll just order a pair of dblink or something else, but I'll remain optimistic. It's definitely better visual build quality than what I normally run into.

I am not trying to criticize you in the slightest.
It's just what I've seen. I had a HUGE KNU bill not so long ago. I am trying some different rca's now...

neo_styles
12-13-2012, 12:31 AM
I am not trying to criticize you in the slightest.
It's just what I've seen. I had a HUGE KNU bill not so long ago. I am trying some different rca's now...

You know I respect your opinion, West. I'll be keeping my eyes/ears out for issues during the installs. RCAs will be the first culprit if things go sour.

UnderFire
12-13-2012, 12:32 AM
That GME wire is definitely junk, the Knu wire is some of the biggest 0 gauge available though, so you're right for the most part. It doesn't come close to 00 wire though (which does exist lol).

Knu makes great stuff, except RCA's, they're pretty much junk IMO. The plastic endcaps always slide off, which is very annoying, the remote wire is tiny, and the pins are very fragile, I've got 2 sets of them with the pins broken off. I use Monster RCA's now, much better quality, justifies the price IMO.

West
12-13-2012, 12:35 AM
That GME wire is definitely junk, the Knu wire is some of the biggest 0 gauge available though, so you're right for the most part. It doesn't come close to 00 wire though (which does exist lol).

Knu makes great stuff, except RCA's, they're pretty much junk IMO. The plastic endcaps always slide off, which is very annoying, the remote wire is tiny, and the pins are very fragile, I've got 2 sets of them with the pins broken off. I use Monster RCA's now, much better quality, justifies the price IMO.

The knu huggers got me suckered too... I have only reciently noticed problems.
Just trying to help... the set I bought last year has been rock solid though.

neo_styles
12-13-2012, 12:36 AM
That GME wire is definitely junk, the Knu wire is some of the biggest 0 gauge available though, so you're right for the most part. It doesn't come close to 00 wire though (which does exist lol).

Knu makes great stuff, except RCA's, they're pretty much junk IMO. The plastic endcaps always slide off, which is very annoying, the remote wire is tiny, and the pins are very fragile, I've got 2 sets of them with the pins broken off. I use Monster RCA's now, much better quality, justifies the price IMO.

Well ****, now that's two against the RCAs. At least I didn't order the basic pair like I was going to originally. Crossing my fingers even tighter...At least, to my advantage, I don't swap out gear that often, so once I install this stuff, it's not really going to be moving. But I've already got backups in mind for RCAs...kinda expected that going in.

West
12-13-2012, 12:38 AM
Well ****it, now that's two against the RCAs. At least I didn't order the basic pair like I was going to originally. Crossing my fingers even tighter...At least, to my advantage, I don't swap out gear that often, so once I install this stuff, it's not really going to be moving. But I've already got backups in mind for RCAs...kinda expected that going in.

Honestly... it's an analog transfer as long as you dont hear excessive noise your good.
Our comments aren't about your choise in wire... we are both kinda pissed at knu. For the lack of Kwality of rca's. The set I had from before is **** near perfect.

neo_styles
12-13-2012, 12:40 AM
I see what you did there...very Korny. What did their kustomer support say when you told them your RCAs were bad?

West
12-13-2012, 12:45 AM
I see what you did there...very Korny. What did their kustomer support say when you told them your RCAs were bad?

I honestly didn't bother...
I probably should have. My revenge is sweeter by telling people not to buy their rca's... Their speaker and power wire is Rock solid though...

neo_styles
12-13-2012, 12:52 AM
I honestly didn't bother...
I probably should have. My revenge is sweeter by telling people not to buy their rca's... Their speaker and power wire is Rock solid though...

7 bucks or not if the RCAs are bad I'm at least fighting for a refund.

West
12-13-2012, 12:55 AM
7 bucks or not if the RCAs are bad I'm at least fighting for a refund.

It just depends on your car... My Camry has a lot of noise but you can position the rca's to reduce the noise...

neo_styles
12-13-2012, 12:59 AM
It just depends on your car... My Camry has a lot of noise but you can position the rca's to reduce the noise...

EMI is a fickle *****. I've got an old tech manual somewhere around here that talks about combating that.

---------- Post added at 09:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:59 PM ----------

Also, I'm extremely lucky to have a trunk-mounted battery so I won't have to deal with running wires on separate sides.

alec14
12-14-2012, 12:46 PM
EMI is a fickle *****. I've got an old tech manual somewhere around here that talks about combating that.

---------- Post added at 09:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:59 PM ----------

Also, I'm extremely lucky to have a trunk-mounted battery so I won't have to deal with running wires on separate sides.

So after your experience, what do you think of their rca's? Good or bad?

neo_styles
12-14-2012, 12:51 PM
So after your experience, what do you think of their rca's? Good or bad?

Visual quality? I think they're great. But the install isn't until tomorrow, weather permitting, so I can't speak on it yet. I'm optimistic, though.

alec14
12-14-2012, 12:57 PM
Visual quality? I think they're great. But the install isn't until tomorrow, weather permitting, so I can't speak on it yet. I'm optimistic, though.

Okay. I'm interested in how they work out, I've been debating on switching to the Krystal series soon. I just wouldn't wanna spend the money if their whole line is crap.

neo_styles
12-14-2012, 01:18 PM
Okay. I'm interested in how they work out, I've been debating on switching to the Krystal series soon. I just wouldn't wanna spend the money if their whole line is crap.

I think the main reason I decided on the Krystal was the upgraded shielding and built-in remote lead to make installation easier for my amps. If all you're doing is upgrading existing RCAs, I'm not sure it's worth the risk to change over. Even mylows10 ; provides Monster and, despite the stigma of Monster being overpriced and undermanufactured, I haven't heard much complaining about Monster's RCAs

av83
12-14-2012, 02:00 PM
I think the main reason I decided on the Krystal was the upgraded shielding and built-in remote lead to make installation easier for my amps. If all you're doing is upgrading existing RCAs, I'm not sure it's worth the risk to change over. Even mylows10 ; provides Monster and, despite the stigma of Monster being overpriced and undermanufactured, I haven't heard much complaining about Monster's RCAs

I use these for my sub amp. Knukonceptz product detail for EKO 5 METER RCA CABLE (http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=eKo-RCA5)

...for the price, I'm very impressed with them. Best cheapie rca's I've ever laid my hands on.

I bought these for fifteen bucks on black friday WoofersEtc.com - CE1540 - Audiobahn Connections 4 Channel 15 Foot Length RCA Cable (http://www.woofersetc.com/p-9332-ce1540-audiobahn-connections-4-channel-15-foot-length-rca-cable.aspx)

Their pic doesn't convey how nice these are for the price. They're twenty now, and still more than worth it. The ends are BEEFY. I have yet to install them, but they seem very well shielded.

Here's a pic I just took...

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/3313/61605584.jpg

neo_styles
12-14-2012, 02:03 PM
I use these for my sub amp. Knukonceptz product detail for EKO 5 METER RCA CABLE (http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=eKo-RCA5)

...for the price, I'm very impressed with them. Best cheapie rca's I've ever laid my hands on.

I bought these for fifteen bucks on black friday WoofersEtc.com - CE1540 - Audiobahn Connections 4 Channel 15 Foot Length RCA Cable (http://www.woofersetc.com/p-9332-ce1540-audiobahn-connections-4-channel-15-foot-length-rca-cable.aspx)

Their pic doesn't convey how nice these are for the price. They're twenty now, and still more than worth it. The ends are BEEFY. I have yet to install them, but they seem very well shielded.

Here's a pic I just took...

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/3313/61605584.jpg

I remember being a freshman in High School, looking at Audiobahn's equipment, and wishing I had a job that could have supported this habit then.

Glad you were happy with the eKo...almost went with those, but realized that if I decide to add more power to my comps by bridging a 4-channel amp, I wanted to have matching splitters. It's a stupid reason, but hey...what can you do?

bsipes30
12-14-2012, 05:11 PM
I'm curious to see how the 0ga wire fits into your adapters. I bought the adapters but havent gotten my wire yet. Post up a picture of the wire next to the adapter and let me know how well the Knu wire fits. thanks!

neo_styles
12-14-2012, 05:14 PM
I'm curious to see how the 0ga wire fits into your adapters. I bought the adapters but havent gotten my wire yet. Post up a picture of the wire next to the adapter and let me know how well the Knu wire fits. thanks!

I'll take a side by side shot for you when I get home. Looking at it, it looks like it should fit in just fine. There's a pretty big opening on the mouth of that adapter.

bsipes30
12-14-2012, 05:20 PM
I'll take a side by side shot for you when I get home. Looking at it, it looks like it should fit in just fine. There's a pretty big opening on the mouth of that adapter.

Thats what i thought also but i haven't seen any 0ga in person and haven't worried about checking into it yet since i can't run the boat until summertime. I figured since it is knu adapter and knu wire is oversized it would fit and all the other Oga would look small inside it.

alec14
12-15-2012, 12:23 AM
I think the main reason I decided on the Krystal was the upgraded shielding and built-in remote lead to make installation easier for my amps. If all you're doing is upgrading existing RCAs, I'm not sure it's worth the risk to change over. Even mylows10 ; provides Monster and, despite the stigma of Monster being overpriced and undermanufactured, I haven't heard much complaining about Monster's RCAs

so, you'd recommend Monster over Knukonceptz?

Jerhemy
12-15-2012, 01:09 AM
so, you'd recommend Monster over Knukonceptz?

Monster makes some Bomb RCA's from what i've experienced and heard. I have about 160 feet of the knu 0 Gauge (kca) in my car and I love it for the price, but compared to my Monster 400 series (ofc) 0 gauge, I would choose the monster wire all day. They both have oversized wire, the outer casing on the Knu just did not impress me compared to the monster, but the Knu is more flexible for sure.

Never worked with the Knu RCA's though, I have been running Kicker Z2 RCA's for a couple years now and have had zero issues.

Just my .02

Bettr n' Revrse
12-15-2012, 01:14 AM
Hopefully my RCAs don't give me problems cus then my interior will have to come back out

neo_styles
12-15-2012, 01:27 AM
Ok well tomorrow's the day to figure out what will and won't work as long as the weather isn't nasty as **** like it's been tonight. I was in the parking lot at Lowe's removing the baffle because the lumber rep said he could cut my shapes no problem, but turns out he just cut me blocks (goddamnit). So I got a B&D Electric handsaw (think mini-jig) and we'll see how that works out for cutting.

And I'm not recommending one RCA over the other until I've tested mine, but I just know by word of mouth how well-done Monster RCAs are (and I personally hate Monster as a company).

UnderFire
12-15-2012, 01:28 AM
so, you'd recommend Monster over Knukonceptz?

I'm running 3 sets of Monster Interlink Reference in my car, They are nearing 15 years old, and I have a set of newer 400 series in the house, and I have no doubt I will never have to buy RCA's again. I also have 2 sets of Knu, Klarity and Krystal, they lasted around 6 months before the pins broke off.

West
12-15-2012, 01:33 AM
I'm running 3 sets of Monster Interlink Reference in my car, They are nearing 15 years old, and I have a set of newer 400 series in the house, and I have no doubt I will never have to buy RCA's again. I also have 2 sets of Knu, Klarity and Krystal, they lasted around 6 months before the pins broke off.

I am trying these guys out. They are supposed to be high class cables.
Vampire Wire - Audio Cables (http://vampirewire.com/viewcategory.php?groupid=12)

neo_styles
12-15-2012, 01:52 AM
I am trying these guys out. They are supposed to be high class cables.
Vampire Wire - Audio Cables (http://vampirewire.com/viewcategory.php?groupid=12)

Not bad...any idea what their shipping costs are?

alec14
12-15-2012, 12:12 PM
Monster makes some Bomb RCA's from what i've experienced and heard. I have about 160 feet of the knu 0 Gauge (kca) in my car and I love it for the price, but compared to my Monster 400 series (ofc) 0 gauge, I would choose the monster wire all day. They both have oversized wire, the outer casing on the Knu just did not impress me compared to the monster, but the Knu is more flexible for sure.

Never worked with the Knu RCA's though, I have been running Kicker Z2 RCA's for a couple years now and have had zero issues.

Just my .02

ahh, okay. I've been debating over both of them lately, and it's nice to get some feedback from someone who's had both.

alec14
12-15-2012, 12:13 PM
I'm running 3 sets of Monster Interlink Reference in my car, They are nearing 15 years old, and I have a set of newer 400 series in the house, and I have no doubt I will never have to buy RCA's again. I also have 2 sets of Knu, Klarity and Krystal, they lasted around 6 months before the pins broke off.

Okay, that's good to hear. Thanks!

av83
12-15-2012, 12:25 PM
ahh, okay. I've been debating over both of them lately, and it's nice to get some feedback from someone who's had both.

He's right... that Monster 0/1 is absolutely unbeatable for the price.

alec14
12-15-2012, 09:09 PM
He's right... that Monster 0/1 is absolutely unbeatable for the price.

I looked on their website, and it doesn't seem too cheap. Like $5 a ft, or around there. Where did you get yours from? Because knu has 1/0 for about $2/ft

neo_styles
12-15-2012, 09:37 PM
Update: NO issues with the RCAs as of yet. The rest of my install, though is an abject failure. When I reconnected the battery, now I'm seeing an Airbag Fault and I made sure everything was properly reconnected. Driving for a period of time after did not clear the fault. Removing and replacing the battery lead didn't either.

Additionally, I couldn't finish cutting the baffles as the Cordless saw I got doesn't have the battery/motor strength to cut my boards, so I'm running with a sub and stock rear speakers ATM, but did test the front pair and they do work well. If anyone's in the Los Angeles area and feels like they can donate their time tomorrow for me to finish this project, I'd greatly appreciate it. I'll post a separate thread as well.

Jerhemy
12-15-2012, 10:18 PM
I looked on their website, and it doesn't seem too cheap. Like $5 a ft, or around there. Where did you get yours from? Because knu has 1/0 for about $2/ft

Not sure where, or if the deal is still going on but they were selling that Monster 1/0 gauge for like 2.50$ a foot I believe for a long time.

Hopefully someone has a link and will chime in.
neo_styles ; an airbag failure? that is very odd :/ I have personally never seen or heard of that happening.
Good luck and keep us posted! :thumbupw:

dragnix
12-15-2012, 10:43 PM
after reading this i wonder if the Knu I have is the reason for the noise in my ride

alec14
12-16-2012, 12:39 AM
after reading this i wonder if the Knu I have is the reason for the noise in my ride

what would the noise be sounding like? I don't think I've ever heard RCA interference.

West
12-16-2012, 01:30 AM
after reading this i wonder if the Knu I have is the reason for the noise in my ride

Try moving the rca's to a different location.
Many head units put out a lot of noise as well...
Switching the rca's out may also help.

neo_styles
12-16-2012, 01:44 AM
Try moving the rca's to a different location.
Many head units put out a lot of noise as well...
Switching the rca's out may also help.

I've also seen people ground their RCAs behind the HU and have reported relative success with that.

neo_styles
12-16-2012, 01:50 AM
Not sure where, or if the deal is still going on but they were selling that Monster 1/0 gauge for like 2.50$ a foot I believe for a long time.

Hopefully someone has a link and will chime in.
neo_styles ; an airbag failure? that is very odd :/ I have personally never seen or heard of that happening.
Good luck and keep us posted! :thumbupw:

Forgot to respond to your statement about the AB failure. There's a wire harness that connects to the trim plate around the HU that isn't supposed to be removed. My friend didn't know and pulled that, so it's locked in until I can find someone with a VAGCOM to clear it or, worst case, fork over my soul at the dealership and have them clear it (anywhere from 40-200 bucks).

Jerhemy
12-16-2012, 02:06 AM
Forgot to respond to your statement about the AB failure. There's a wire harness that connects to the trim plate around the HU that isn't supposed to be removed. My friend didn't know and pulled that, so it's locked in until I can find someone with a VAGCOM to clear it or, worst case, fork over my soul at the dealership and have them clear it (anywhere from 40-200 bucks).

Ahh that kinda makes sense, almost like the safety airbag system thinks it was in a crash or some bullish? Yeah man those dealerships will take you for all they can, unfortunately.

dragnix
12-16-2012, 09:14 PM
Try moving the rca's to a different location.
Many head units put out a lot of noise as well...
Switching the rca's out may also help.
Not a lot of spaces behind a civic. I might try redoing all my grounds including the amps to see if there's any success

I've also seen people ground their RCAs behind the HU and have reported relative success with that.
I believe that's only for the Pioneer heads due to the pico fuse issue. Funny thing is I didn't have engine whine with my Pioneer, it's when I switched to this Alpine that it's doing it.

what would the noise be sounding like? I don't think I've ever heard RCA interference.
I don't have interference as much as engine noise. Whines like a mofo and loud as hell

jockhater2
12-16-2012, 09:26 PM
well F me. I just bought some KNU krystal RCA's

neo_styles
12-16-2012, 09:43 PM
well F me. I just bought some KNU krystal RCA's

Maybe the fixed them up...I haven't had any issues yet. Could also be that it's very install-dependent. I have eliminated any possibility of the power/ground and RCAs coming close to each other and, even though they're traveling the same path as the stock wiring on the floor, zero noise. You should be fine.

jockhater2
12-17-2012, 05:59 PM
Maybe the fixed them up...I haven't had any issues yet. Could also be that it's very install-dependent. I have eliminated any possibility of the power/ground and RCAs coming close to each other and, even though they're traveling the same path as the stock wiring on the floor, zero noise. You should be fine.

which RCA's did you get? I got the krystal kables. And the ends are made of metal.

neo_styles
12-17-2012, 06:51 PM
Klarity. Plastic caps. I got them specifically for the fact it had the built in remote lead

jockhater2
12-17-2012, 08:07 PM
Klarity. Plastic caps. I got them specifically for the fact it had the built in remote lead

OHHHH OK. well the krystal kables were there higher end rca's. hopefully they hold up

neo_styles
12-17-2012, 08:51 PM
At this point I've learned that RCAs are RCAs. Some are just better a blocking noise than others. I almost got the eKo but decided I'd like the uniformity of the Klarity when I got my splitters for the 4-channel.

neo_styles
12-26-2012, 12:14 AM
Good news: seems the RCA noise issues went away. Maybe it just needed a little cook-in time...

I'll be making another order soon now. I want to get enough wiring to go to a dual amp setup, but I'm not sure if I want to keep my Rockford amp once the eclipse goes in, so maybe I'll offer that up for trade here if someone's willing to let go of their Monoblock in exchange for my P8004. I'm looking for something that'll do around 400W at 2 ohms. Anyone willing? dragnix ; perhaps...

dragnix
12-26-2012, 10:42 AM
Good news: seems the RCA noise issues went away. Maybe it just needed a little cook-in time...

I'll be making another order soon now. I want to get enough wiring to go to a dual amp setup, but I'm not sure if I want to keep my Rockford amp once the eclipse goes in, so maybe I'll offer that up for trade here if someone's willing to let go of their Monoblock in exchange for my P8004. I'm looking for something that'll do around 400W at 2 ohms. Anyone willing? dragnix ; perhaps...
I would, except that p8004 is a beast of an amp and I drive a civic lol

neo_styles
12-26-2012, 11:18 AM
I would, except that p8004 is a beast of an amp and I drive a civic lol

You gots a point there. I'll probably just keep it and wire each vc to a different channel then. Oh well thanks anyway

Kingstroker
12-26-2012, 12:03 PM
I didn't read all the pages here so I don't know if the subject was addressed. Why did you go with 0ga cca and adapters instead of 4ga ofc? Not being critical, just trying to learn about all the electrical before I start ripping wires out of my diesel and replacing them.

neo_styles
12-26-2012, 12:07 PM
I didn't read all the pages here so I don't know if the subject was addressed. Why did you go with 0ga cca and adapters instead of 4ga ofc? Not being critical, just trying to learn about all the electrical before I start ripping wires out of my diesel and replacing them.

The 0ga CCA was more for my own interests. I haven't actually used it because the bulk wire is so effing huge, but wanted to compare it to the GME I got from a friend's shop as a handout. The CCA is also dirt cheap at less than 2 bucks a foot, but if you can sprig the price for the 4ga OFC I say go for it. Either way you go, the wire is crazy flexible and you should definitely be happy with it. Keep in mind, too, that if your wire inputs to your amps are anything like my RF, you're gonna have a bad time. I wish I could have used ring terminals, but it's more like a pressure fitting and it was a rough enough task trying to fit the GME 0ga in there (which is pretty much 4ga). I'm definitely going to be happier using my Eclipse when it comes to the wiring.

neo_styles
12-26-2012, 10:37 PM
Ok, so I'm putting together the list for ordering from knu this weekend. Kinda wanted to go through AT but Coleman didn't answer his email cthedinger ; wink wink). Anywho, I figured I should put this 0ga CCA to use, so that'll be my ground wire. Am I bottlenecking myself by using 4ga Kolossus for power or should I be fine? Just don't want to have to shell out another 20 bucks for a 0ga compatible fuseholder. Also will be picking up more 14ga speaker wire to bring the tweets up to the dash/a-pillar, RCA adapters for bridging and subs, and ring terminals.

gckless
12-29-2012, 08:27 AM
Ok, so I'm putting together the list for ordering from knu this weekend. Kinda wanted to go through AT but Coleman didn't answer his email cthedinger ; wink wink). Anywho, I figured I should put this 0ga CCA to use, so that'll be my ground wire. Am I bottlenecking myself by using 4ga Kolossus for power or should I be fine? Just don't want to have to shell out another 20 bucks for a 0ga compatible fuseholder. Also will be picking up more 14ga speaker wire to bring the tweets up to the dash/a-pillar, RCA adapters for bridging and subs, and ring terminals.

Dude you get this figured out? If not, what's the amp you're putting it to? Knu says that 4ga OFC is rated for 150A at 20ft., so what's your amp capable of pulling?

neo_styles
12-29-2012, 11:08 AM
Dude you get this figured out? If not, what's the amp you're putting it to? Knu says that 4ga OFC is rated for 150A at 20ft., so what's your amp capable of pulling?

I'll be running an eclipse 36501 and its fused to 50A. I'll be way under the rated draw of both wires.

Btw I'll be testing some AT OFC 4ga since I just placed an order with Coleman. Also picked up a new pair of RCAs and splitters. It'll be N interesting comparison because the AT is a slightly smaller strand count.

gckless
12-29-2012, 11:25 AM
I'll be running an eclipse 36501 and its fused to 50A. I'll be way under the rated draw of both wires.

Btw I'll be testing some AT OFC 4ga since I just placed an order with Coleman. Also picked up a new pair of RCAs and splitters. It'll be N interesting comparison because the AT is a slightly smaller strand count.

You have Knu 4ga OFC as well? Or comparing it to the Knu 1/0ga CCA you have? I'm still undecided on whether I want to go with Knu or AT for my spring build either. I've dealt with Coleman so I may go that route just because of that. Or maybe I should get a 5ft piece of each before I get a 50ft roll? Hmm, decisions. Anyway, let me know what you think of both.

neo_styles
12-29-2012, 11:35 AM
You have Knu 4ga OFC as well? Or comparing it to the Knu 1/0ga CCA you have? I'm still undecided on whether I want to go with Knu or AT for my spring build either. I've dealt with Coleman so I may go that route just because of that. Or maybe I should get a 5ft piece of each before I get a 50ft roll? Hmm, decisions. Anyway, let me know what you think of both.

I'll let you know. Comparing the AT OFC 4ga to the Knu 0ga CCA, even though it's kind of a one-sided fist fight lol. I'm using the 0ga as ground since it's just wrapped up in my trunk anyway and routing the 4ga AT for power. I would have done 0ga OFC/CCA, but didn't want to spend another 20 bucks getting a new fuse holder. Perhaps when I step up to a dual amp setup (or my Leviathan, you know...).

argenis69
01-07-2013, 10:32 PM
Guys one question, Which is the best quality 0 gauge power wire of KNU? Thanks

neo_styles
01-07-2013, 10:33 PM
Most will say Kolossus because it's OFC and can handle an extra 50a of current draw, but for the price the CCA is unbelievably awesome. I have it as the ground for my amp now and LOVE how flexible that stuff is. Plus it doesn't shed like crazy when you strip the insulation off for crimping to a ring terminal.

argenis69
01-07-2013, 10:45 PM
I appreciate the answer, but I'm looking to get the best and fastest current wire possible. Can you PM the link for that item? Thanks

gckless
01-07-2013, 10:46 PM
Guys one question, Which is the best quality 0 gauge power wire of KNU? Thanks

Kolossus. Do a search on google to find it. Reason is not only does it handle more amperage, but more importantly it is less resistant.

neo_styles
01-07-2013, 10:46 PM
Speed of current flow won't change in either medium. Current is current. But if you want best of the best, here you go.

Knukonceptz product detail for KOLOSSUS FLEKS KABLE 1/0 RED POWER /GROUND WIRE (http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=KFX0R)

argenis69
01-07-2013, 10:52 PM
Thanks sir, so in your opinion this power wire is the best option and quality available for the money?

neo_styles
01-07-2013, 10:55 PM
For the money? Absolutely. Though, like I said, unless you're looking at drawing a huge amount of current, this is a cheaper option and definitely better on the wallet:

Knukonceptz product detail for KCA KABLE 1/0 ULTRA FLEKS RED CCA POWER / GROUND CABLE (http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=KCA0R)

argenis69
01-07-2013, 11:03 PM
I understand and appreciate ur help on considering my wallet and all, but I would like to just buy one time, have good stuff, use it on my future installs, and that's why I'm trying to get the best option and get rid of all that bootleg cheap stuff I bought when I began my install on this car.

neo_styles
01-07-2013, 11:06 PM
I understand and appreciate ur help on considering my wallet and all, but I would like to just buy one time, have good stuff, use it on my future installs, and that's why I'm trying to get the best option and get rid of all that bootleg cheap stuff I bought when I began my install on this car.

Either of those two will be miles ahead quality-wise in comparison to what you've been using. Just go with the OFC, then.

Wanacustomx
01-07-2013, 11:10 PM
No doubt knu fleks... Just caught eye of the post from like a month ago, I can say that "built in remotewire" is my only complaint... I've done two installs, both with skar vvx 12 both with hifonics amps and both I recommended knu wiring... The first time I saw and intentionally ordered the 4 gauge cca kit with bolt in rca for the hfi1000d amp, hard to strip that remote wire. The second time I told him not to get the built in bc of my previous troubles, so we ordered a different RCA maybe the klarity kable and it came with it, honestly pissed me off how bad it was. When trying to seperate the remote from the RCA it tore the remote wire sheathing down causing me to constantly have to keep strippin the wire... long story short I thought it wasn't built in remote so I had him order knu fleks remote wire, that's the knu I'm used too...

I'm nothin but a knu fan obviously my build has every bit of wire and RCA from knu. They need to get that built in remote **** together though. Other than that though the 2 cca kits I used were fantastic both 4 and 0 gauge, and yes it is oversized 0 gauge so much much bigger and better than any other wire on the market.

Sorry about the review, but if your looking at rcas from knu I went with krystal and have no complaints, no built in remote.

neo_styles
01-07-2013, 11:13 PM
No doubt knu fleks... Just caught eye of the post from like a month ago, I can say that "built in remotewire" is my only complaint... I've done two installs, both with skar vvx 12 both with hifonics amps and both I recommended knu wiring... The first time I saw and intentionally ordered the 4 gauge cca kit with bolt in rca for the hfi1000d amp, hard to strip that remote wire. The second time I told him not to get the built in bc of my previous troubles, so we ordered a different RCA maybe the klarity kable and it came with it, honestly pissed me off how bad it was. When trying to seperate the remote from the RCA it tore the remote wire sheathing down causing me to constantly have to keep strippin the wire... long story short I thought it wasn't built in remote so I had him order knu fleks remote wire, that's the knu I'm used too...

I'm nothin but a knu fan obviously my build has every bit of wire and RCA from knu. They need to get that built in remote **** together though. Other than that though the 2 cca kits I used were fantastic both 4 and 0 gauge, and yes it is oversized 0 gauge so much much bigger and better than any other wire on the market.

Sorry about the review, but if your looking at rcas from knu I went with krystal and have no complaints, no built in remote.

Have a set of Krystal 4-channels coming in soon. Hopefully they'll be better than my Krystals. I'll keep one set on the subs, though. That built-in remote wire was the whole reason I went with one in the first place. Further down the road, though, I'll be less lazy and just run up a separate remote wire.

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Btw this was posted in reviews, so you're fine. I kinda started this thread to gather opinions.

Wanacustomx
01-07-2013, 11:29 PM
Like I said Bud I went outta my way to run the knu fleks remote wire had to completely pull the indash out of a passat (Big pain in the a@@) just to do it again, because I didn't want that in my install.. I just got my 4 channel krystals my 2 channel 1/2M's to bridge my amps, I'm all set from knu except another 100ft of knu fleks ofc and a spool of remote wire lol

Wanacustomx
01-07-2013, 11:31 PM
Oh yeah also got 100ft ft of kord 10ga ofc, thats quality wire as well, just what you'd expect from them... Sorry xs I run your batts but someone tried to argue that the xs wire was better at 600+ strands less, and 1$ more per ft. Their argument was that little bit of wire won't even matter, the only thing I could say was "your still paying more for less!" Like what do you even say to someone so ignorant?

Also did a fleks test (my way) and the knu fleks is much more flexible

neo_styles
01-07-2013, 11:40 PM
Oh yeah also got 100ft ft of kord 10ga ofc, thats quality wire as well, just what you'd expect from them... Sorry xs I run your batts but someone tried to argue that the xs wire was better at 600+ strands less, and 1$ more per ft. Their argument was that little bit of wire won't even matter, the only thing I could say was "your still paying more for less!" Like what do you even say to someone so ignorant?

Also did a fleks test (my way) and the knu fleks is much more flexible

Orly? Good to know for next time. I said a while back that I'll be testing out some AT 4ga OFC, too, so I'll have a better basis for comparison.

And I know your pain when it comes to Passats if you can't tell by my sig. Trying to fit everything in a B6 is a PITA enough already, but having to factor in doing entirely new baffles for the speakers? Come on now...

Wanacustomx
01-07-2013, 11:47 PM
Both my installs have been vw it *****... But both loud.. especially the single vvx 12 on 2k flexin the hell outta the passat windshield lol

neo_styles
01-07-2013, 11:52 PM
Both my installs have been vw it *****... But both loud.. especially the single vvx 12 on 2k flexin the hell outta the passat windshield lol

What generation?

04murdalanche
01-07-2013, 11:53 PM
Thanks for this thread Neo, helped me a lot.. I got my Knu 0 gauge HELLAA cheap from a friend. And love it.

neo_styles
01-07-2013, 11:54 PM
Thanks for this thread Neo, helped me a lot.. I got my Knu 0 gauge HELLAA cheap from a friend. And love it.

I'm glad for you man. It just caught me off guard how there was so much support for Knu but the only review I could find was in the cable comparisons.

Wanacustomx
01-07-2013, 11:59 PM
I will never use or recommend anything else other than knu .
The passat was a 06.. the skar was the 1st gen without the vvx_12 on the cone.. so really the V1.5

neo_styles
01-08-2013, 12:01 AM
Lol B6...god those things are a PITA. NOT looking forward to a full teardown of the interior when it comes time to deadening all over.

04murdalanche
01-08-2013, 12:01 AM
I'm glad for you man. It just caught me off guard how there was so much support for Knu but the only review I could find was in the cable comparisons.

This definitely opened my eyes a little lol

I bounce back inbetween Knu and Shok for wire. Both seem very solid to me.

neo_styles
01-08-2013, 12:03 AM
I'd be willing to give Shok a try if Vertex wasn't planning on moving further north. Would love the idea of just walking in and picking this stuff up. SonicElectronix needs to get wise and start stocking more and better wire. They're like a five minute drive from where I work.

NuckinFutz
01-08-2013, 12:08 AM
This thread has me wondering if my stinger RCAs are any good?

neo_styles
01-08-2013, 12:12 AM
Your Stinger RCAs are more than good enough. Knu apparently has washy quality control when it comes to their lower-end RCAs (Klarity and eKo). I'll be giving the Krystal a shot and can voice my opinion on those as well as some AudioTechnix "Higher Quality RCAs" and splitters.

When I was previously in the CA game, I pretty much ran all JL because I didn't know any better and that's what Tweeter recommended (gullible me). Time for me to get wise again.