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rovertnamrod
12-10-2012, 06:56 PM
i'm looking for some good sounding speakers for the front doors of my 01 civic coupe dx. these speakers are roughly the same price- $159 for the ID's and $150 for the Alpine components. the alpine type r component speakers are Alpine's high end comps, while the ctx 65cs is not Image Dynamics high end comp's.

which sound better and why?

zako
12-10-2012, 08:35 PM
I haven't heard either, but both have been described as having good midbass, good midrange, and occasionally harsh tweeters. I'd skip in favor of JBL MS-62C.

JBL MS62C Two-Way Component Speakers - Speakers - Talk Audio Online Car Audio Magazine & Forum - Talk Audio Online Car Audio Magazine & Forum - Magazine (http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/index.php/index.html/_/reviews/speakers/jbl-ms62c-two-way-component-speakers-r1172)
Alpine SPR-60C Type R Two-Way Component speakers - Speakers - Talk Audio Online Car Audio Magazine & Forum - Talk Audio Online Car Audio Magazine & Forum - Magazine (http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/index.php/index.html/_/reviews/speakers/alpine-spr-60c-type-r-two-way-component-speakers-r960)

rovertnamrod
12-10-2012, 08:43 PM
Harsh tweeters? They both have silk domes though.

zako
12-10-2012, 08:49 PM
Harsh tweeters? They both have silk domes though.

Tweeter harshness doesn't need to do anything with the materials. Frequently, a tweeter can sound harsh at higher volume level if it is allowed to play too low. So, it can easily be a crossover problem. One rule of thumb I heard is that tweeter's output should be completely in-audible at its resonance frequency. I heard it has been said that few small format tweeters do not distort playing audibly at frequencies below 4KHz, but in car audio there are a lot of speakers crossing tweeters as low as 2KHz or using 1st order high pass which still let the tweeter play a lot of lower frequencies.

rovertnamrod
12-13-2012, 05:27 PM
I haven't heard either, but both have been described as having good midbass, good midrange, and occasionally harsh tweeters. I'd skip in favor of JBL MS-62C.

JBL MS62C Two-Way Component Speakers - Speakers - Talk Audio Online Car Audio Magazine & Forum - Talk Audio Online Car Audio Magazine & Forum - Magazine (http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/index.php/index.html/_/reviews/speakers/jbl-ms62c-two-way-component-speakers-r1172)
Alpine SPR-60C Type R Two-Way Component speakers - Speakers - Talk Audio Online Car Audio Magazine & Forum - Talk Audio Online Car Audio Magazine & Forum - Magazine (http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/index.php/index.html/_/reviews/speakers/alpine-spr-60c-type-r-two-way-component-speakers-r960)

ok, i understand the JBL's sound better than the alpines and the id's, but which out of the 2 I originally asked about would sound better? Alpine type r components (spr 50c, spr 60) or Image Dynamics ctx65cs components?

Why So Cereal?
12-14-2012, 12:08 AM
ok, i understand the JBL's sound better than the alpines and the id's, but which out of the 2 I originally asked about would sound better? Alpine type r components (spr 50c, spr 60) or Image Dynamics ctx65cs components?

I vote ID. I dont like R comps. Highs too emphasized even for me.

rovertnamrod
12-14-2012, 05:01 PM
ok i'm going with the JBL ms-52c and not the ms-62c because of fitment issues with my car (2001 honda civic dx coupe). The ms-52c's are just as good as the ms-62c's right? and the only difference being they don't go quite as low on the frequency range?

neo_styles
12-14-2012, 05:21 PM
The MS52s will be fine. I have MS62s and they're solid performers. I'm going to be installing them in my Passat tomorrow, so keep your eyes peeled on a build log soon. Between your two original choices, definitely the IDs...they're also nowhere near as power hungry.