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BlueMagic12
11-26-2012, 01:40 AM
SO i just recently got a 2013 Honda Accord. So HU will be stock since there are no dash kits yet
i was trying to decided between a few things. Im on a college student budget but i will work slow for better results if i need to.
I had in mind for 6.5 components
1.CDT (idk what model)
2. HAT Imagine ( i really liked) Imagine I61-2V2 6.5" Component / Coaxial Speaker Set - 12v Electronics (http://store.12velectronics.com/imagine-i61-2v2-6-5-component-coaxial-speaker-set/)
3. Diamond Audio (idk model number but i heard them in local audio shop)

Amp
1. Zed Audio Amp

Your welcome to recommended any others but id prefer those brands or Image Dynamics (which was in my last car)

specs: 2013 honda accord sedan, college budget .
id like to spend no more then 300 on component speakers, 400 on amp and a sub for like 250

mylows10
11-26-2012, 01:45 AM
well the hd61a set can be had for 240 if you buy tonight only ,400 will not get a zed amp ,it will get you an american bass 5 channel tho ,and 250 can get a decent sub, but what size and how many.i can do the hd 61a 240 an 5 channel 369 and xfl 12 for 200 all shipped

BlueMagic12
11-26-2012, 01:49 AM
i wasnt ready to buy tonight... by the end of week i should be able too.
I was going to do just one one 12inch sub . I didnt want nothing to bangish.

mylows10
11-26-2012, 02:06 AM
well i haven't heard any convertible components that sounded good as of yet ,hats are nice ,but the are just as good for less.and most of their lower lines dont sound that good .xfl 12 would be the sub to go with ,as far as bangish as you say that will depend on the enclosure more than the sub.i could probably give you a good deal at the end of the week on everything ,but the hd 61a will be a bit more,not much tho

BassAddictJ
11-27-2012, 08:08 PM
cdt b stock on cdtstore.com

bnib w/ warranty, like half price or less. Got mine today and honestly they look perfect. couldnt find anything wrong with them.

gckless
11-27-2012, 08:14 PM
Also the JBL MS-62C set. Haven't heard them personally but I have not seen a single bad review on them.

Hoodlum007
12-09-2012, 01:53 PM
Dynaudio FTW!

Dirtrider4eva
12-09-2012, 01:59 PM
ive been digging around and here is my prior experience,
the older diamond audio hex sets are great. kevlar cones. the newer stuff is OK.
CDT has tons of models. never heard them, definately have mylows10 help you if you decide with them.
the JBL ms Set has been getting HUGE review for being awesome for the money.
The tweeters are a little harsh so you will have to dial them back a little.
I decided to pair up a set of speakers and tweeters off of Madisound.com.
it is the cheaper and better sound quality option for running active. for running passive i would choose either
HAT imagines set, the JBL MS set if you like brighter highs, or hittup audible physics. theyre hard to get ahold of but apparently make a helluva speaker.

marc2112
12-09-2012, 02:37 PM
Jbl gti's are very good speakers but for the rest better go infinity. Jim's cdts are the best value here.

okiedokie
12-10-2012, 10:51 AM
CDT isn't worth the money vs JBL or Hybrid.
If you do get CDT look in there ES mids.
I listen to new JBL MS line the other day & I think for the money they are good.

Have thought about Helix?
I was listening to there comps the other day & I was impressed with them.
You can find there lower line stuff around $250 if I'm remember right.
You live in a big city , so you should be able to find a shop around you so you can compare different comp sets.

PHD - USA
12-10-2012, 11:06 AM
PHD or Audible Physics FTW. If you are interested in either let me know. I am one of two US dealers of PHD.

Dirtrider4eva
12-10-2012, 11:24 AM
PHD or Audible Physics FTW. If you are interested in either let me know. I am one of two US dealers of PHD.

Oh now you can sell them. Pm me with some specs and stuff man. I need a pair of 6.5 mids and a pair of soft some tweeters. Have up to 300watts per channel for mids, and up to 100 for tweeters. I plan on having headroom.

PHD - USA
12-10-2012, 11:32 AM
Oh now you can sell them. Pm me with some specs and stuff man. I need a pair of 6.5 mids and a pair of soft some tweeters. Have up to 300watts per channel for mids, and up to 100 for tweeters. I plan on having headroom.

You have my number lol just call me

PHD - USA
12-10-2012, 11:34 AM
CDT is essentially rebadged vifa, I'm not saying that is a bad thing necessarily, because vifa makes good drivers. There is much much better out there though.

trumpet
12-10-2012, 11:44 AM
CDT is essentially rebadged vifa

There was truth to this statement years ago. You can look at some older models with the red baskets and tell it's a Vifa-esque design, but today's models are CDT designed and engineered.

PHD - USA
12-10-2012, 11:47 AM
What I also might tell you is this, if that is the case, CDT done messed up. Back a few years ago, there were a few competitors that used to compete with CDT in sq competitions. When I was at MECA world finals, there was not a single sq car that had CDT in it. Also looking around at other high end sq cars I see no CDT at all. Maybe they should go back to Vifa :confused:

trumpet
12-10-2012, 12:05 PM
What I also might tell you is this, if that is the case, CDT done messed up. Back a few years ago, there were a few competitors that used to compete with CDT in sq competitions. When I was at MECA world finals, there was not a single sq car that had CDT in it. Also looking around at other high end sq cars I see no CDT at all. Maybe they should go back to Vifa :confused:

It's no secret they don't support the competition scene.

PHD - USA
12-10-2012, 12:10 PM
It's no secret they don't support the competition scene.

Regardless if they support the competition scene or not, you and a few others play them off as wonderful sound quality drivers. I feel that if they were as wonderful and worth the money as you say, more competitors would be using them. PHD is internationally known for their drivers and wins world championships around the world. Just recently being brought into the US, I believe the same will happen here. Audible Physics also just started getting into the competition scene and the first year they brought home numerous awards at world finals. I'm just saying here that it doesn't seem like CDT is worth the money compared to other drivers you could get for the same amount of money.

trumpet
12-10-2012, 12:19 PM
This is the great thing about opinions and preferences. There will always be people who love certain brands because that's what they've used and enjoyed. I don't have any experience with competing or most of today's popular "SQ" brands of speakers, but I've gotten out of my car countless times with a stupid grin on my face after listening to music. This to me is what matters and it's that experience that I want to help others achieve with their cars. If I didn't feel like defending CDT Audio I probably shouldn't be selling for them anymore.

PHD - USA
12-10-2012, 12:30 PM
You're correct that everybody has their own listening preferences, but as many here will attest to here, there are some drivers that are just superior to others. I absolutely love listening to my car as well. Sometimes I stay in it for 10-15 after I get home from 12+ hours of school and work just to enjoy listening to the music. All that I am really saying is, for what you get from CDT, you can do much better elsewhere.

zako
12-10-2012, 08:41 PM
My advise may sound like a complete reverse of what you asked, but personally, I would suggest to leave all factory speakers in place, add JBL MS-8 processor (or similar, like Alpine H800), subwoofer amplifier and a subwoofer.

It doesn't matter if you install even a $600 speaker set. Without good processing, in terms of equalization, crossovers, and time alignment, the old GIGO concept still applies in car audio (garbage in, garbage out). The MS-8 has an internal amplifier for 8 channels, so you can hook up all woofers and tweeters to it in active mode. It will automatically calibrate eq, time alignment, and configure surround sound processing for having a proper rear fill. Add a subwoofer, and have a good listen. If you still think there is a problem with sound _then_ start upgrading the speakers and their amplifiers. One you invest in a better speaker, at least you will be able to extract the most out of it with good DSP capabilities.

keep_hope_alive
12-11-2012, 02:29 AM
i second the MS-8 approach first. start by correcting the terrible amplification and front end. from there you have a good building block for the future, and a great investment. MS-8's will be sought after for years to come.

When it comes to upgrading speakers, installation is more important than brand. once the install is as good as it can be (usually means permanent modifications and custom fabrication) will differences in speaker quality be the limiting factor. keep in mind, buying a $35 raw driver is giving you similar quality as what you get in a $400 component set. comp sets have a lot of markup, as well as R&D with the crossover. the MS-8 lets you run active, allowing even more flexibility with driver selection.

certainly HAT Imagine is a nice drop-in and would pair very well with the MS-8. just don't expect the installation to be as easy as drop-in replacement. custom mounting baffle and recreation of all factory seals is vital to success.

the factory speakers are better than the factory amplification. in most cases, simply improving amplification will make vast improvements in overall sound quality. I have much more invested in amplification than I do in speakers, subs, and head unit; combined.

keep_hope_alive
12-11-2012, 02:39 AM
lots of companies use Tympany/Peerless, Vifa, Scanspeak, etc. things i look for in full range woofers are cast baskets, good upper frequency response, lightweight cones, and healthy power handling. if you can find underhung designs, even better.

i'm not saying that you shouldn't buy component sets from a manufacturer or even from vendors on this forum. The vendors on the forum are more likely to stand behind their product than a box store. A good relationship with an independent dealer is a plus. pre-made sets are thought out for tonal consistencies and they will come with necessary crossovers. but your Accord requires custom wiring regardless. the head unit output goes to the dash tweeters first, then from there to the door woofers. you need to power the front tweeters, front woofers, and rear woofers independently from the MS-8. you also need to get front and rear HU outputs to the MS-8. then you just need a bundle (literally) from behind the HU to the MS-8. the only independent wires will be to each tweeter - this is where you will need to intercept factory wiring (or disconnect tweeter plug and connect there).