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plugitin
11-19-2012, 04:16 PM
Alrighty fellas, just got into the world of a real home theater.

I just recently purchased a 70" Sharp Aqous and i decided i needed to buy a real sound setup

I purchased a Denon 1912 receiver and have some Polk Monitor 60 Series II and a CS2 center channel on the way from NewEgg.

I am undecided on whether to use the 60s as front speakers or get some 70s for the front and use the 60s as surround. Anyways, im looking into a subwoofer. Ive looked at the PSW 505 and it looks decent for the price, but i would imagine i could build a better one than that for the price. Any suggestions on what driver, box design, and or plate amp? I am totally new to the HT world. Any suggestions would be awesome

splwj47
11-19-2012, 04:45 PM
whats ur budget?

plugitin
11-19-2012, 05:01 PM
Like to stay under 500 ish total

jockhater2
11-19-2012, 05:02 PM
Like to stay under 500 ish total

check out Parts Express: the #1 source for audio, video & speaker building components (http://www.parts-express.com) for there home theater subs
dayton makes some.

or you can buy the amps/subs separately and build it the way you want.

jteske88
11-19-2012, 05:23 PM
Look at velodyne, you can find a lot of there models for under or around 500$. I own a dps-12 and it sounds amazing and has good lows.

truckramrod
11-19-2012, 05:56 PM
i 2nd that. browse partsexpress and read reviews. great prices and products.
I'd love to have a Dayton Titanic subwoofer.

gckless
11-19-2012, 06:02 PM
Yeah, the Dayton seem to be the go-to for good reason. I'm pretty sure Parts Express still has those kits available with sub, box, and plate amp too. Been a little while since I looked at those though. There's also a section on PE that has all kinds of home speaker/sub designs. They list everything from the pieces of wood you have to cut to each individual component on the crossovers. They usually feature them in their flyers.

jockhater2
11-19-2012, 06:04 PM
i 2nd that. browse partsexpress and read reviews. great prices and products.
I'd love to have a Dayton Titanic subwoofer.

exactly what I was thinking

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Yeah, the Dayton seem to be the go-to for good reason. I'm pretty sure Parts Express still has those kits available with sub, box, and plate amp too. Been a little while since I looked at those though. There's also a section on PE that has all kinds of home speaker/sub designs. They list everything from the pieces of wood you have to cut to each individual component on the crossovers. They usually feature them in their flyers.

that is it. it is a done deal
go to parts express
and get a camry

sam_b03
11-19-2012, 06:14 PM
When I was shopping for a HT Sub and researching, this Amazon.com: Bic America VK-12 12-Inch 1000-Watt Kevlar Series Front-Firing Powered Subwoofer: Electronics (http://www.amazon.com/America-VK-12-1000-Watt-Front-Firing-Subwoofer/dp/B0016J3H18), is what alot of the guys a DIY were recommending. I have to say I am happy with it. It will get loud. I have the gain knob turned 25% and the reciever channel level setting at its lowest and it still has presents. I have it in my bedroom so I can't turnup my stereo very often. It walks on my cheap Klipsch 5.0 speaker set.

fasfocus00
11-19-2012, 06:50 PM
the Bash 300 is on PE for $112, that's a good start for a dual 15 HT setup.

one of these, http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=295-470


with one of these, http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-750

build yourself a nice enclosure and you're under your $500 price range with one very kicka$s sub stage.

galacticmonkey
11-19-2012, 07:05 PM
I got into HT for a while as well. Started with a Dayton HF 15 on a Bash 300w plate amp. Never even really used it, as it was just too much.

Dropped down to a Dayton HF 8 on the same amp. Still way too much. With the 8 in the same box as the 15 (7 cubes @ 24hz), I could literally move stuff across my desk in the 20hz range and flex the door pretty good. In the end, I just bought a set of Turtle Beach X31s so that I could listen at night and play games without disturbing others.

However much you think you need for a good amount of bass, cut it in half at least. Its awesome to see people do 2 15s and 4 18s and stuff, but I honestly dont see the point. Having a ton of bass is awesome in a car for just listening to music, but when Im just watching TV or a movie, I dont feel like not being able to hear the words because everything is drowned out by bass.

If youre interested, I still have the HF 8. Its just been sitting. Id sell it cheap.

mat3833
11-19-2012, 07:06 PM
Dayton Audio SUB-1200 12" 120 Watt Powered Subwoofer 300-629 (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-629) is actually a really nice deal. if you have the room id get 2 of these and be happy. but if ur like me and want to bring the house down go with

Dayton Audio SPA1000 1000W Subwoofer Plate Amplifier 300-809 (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-809) and a pair of 12 or 15" subs of your choice.

Dayton Audio RSS315HFA-8 12" Reference HF Subwoofer 8 Ohm 295-445 (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=295-445) would be a really nice start

Matt

mat3833
11-19-2012, 07:10 PM
and galactic monkey makes a very good point. when watching a movie, its VERY easy to have too much bass. 99% of the time my bass setting on my amp is less than 10%. when im watching a really good action movie or just want to feel like the building is falling right on top of me i toss it up to ~50%. i only go above that when listening to music.

the dayton 12" powered subs i listed are VERY nice. for the money you cant really beat them and they do a **** good job of adding bass in a compact and efficent package. they even dig pretty low for the cost.

Matt

plugitin
11-20-2012, 03:55 AM
I appreciate the help everyone. I enjoy learning about this stuff.


I got into HT for a while as well. Started with a Dayton HF 15 on a Bash 300w plate amp. Never even really used it, as it was just too much.

Dropped down to a Dayton HF 8 on the same amp. Still way too much. With the 8 in the same box as the 15 (7 cubes @ 24hz), I could literally move stuff across my desk in the 20hz range and flex the door pretty good. In the end, I just bought a set of Turtle Beach X31s so that I could listen at night and play games without disturbing others.

However much you think you need for a good amount of bass, cut it in half at least. Its awesome to see people do 2 15s and 4 18s and stuff, but I honestly dont see the point. Having a ton of bass is awesome in a car for just listening to music, but when Im just watching TV or a movie, I dont feel like not being able to hear the words because everything is drowned out by bass.

If youre interested, I still have the HF 8. Its just been sitting. Id sell it cheap.

shoot me a pm with what ya want for her. I appreciate the input

galacticmonkey
11-20-2012, 05:14 PM
Where are you located? If you are anywhere close, I can do $60 shipped.

rebelfromva
11-20-2012, 05:17 PM
JayDubb757 ;

DoesDad
11-20-2012, 05:34 PM
I've got this one: Dayton Audio SUB-1200 12" 120 Watt Powered Subwoofer 300-629 (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-629)

I payed like 140 shipped but now they're 110 shipped. I can tell you that for the money you're not going to get a better HT sub. The thing is amazing. I don't care if you're on a budget or not. I've had an expensive BIC a few years back that didn't dig down like this one..

JayDubb757
11-20-2012, 08:38 PM
I would recommend building your own enclosure...I built mine, and it would sh1t on anything under $750 that you can buy in the store, and I got like $200 in it.
I used a car sub...find one with a low fs, and it should do well as a HT sub...I used an Infinity Kappa Perfect 12.1 single 4ohm
Buy a plate amp, or pro audio amp...the plate amps that come on most of the store bought HT subs usually **** and don't last long... I bought a Dayton SPA250
Model the sub in Winisd..it's more reliable for home applications than car...
My box is 4ft^3 tuned to 20hz....pretty big for 1-12, but it plays flat from 20hz-80hz...setup more for movies and gaming than music.

I've had a few store bought HT subs, but after building my own, I'll never go back.
As far as fronts, I prefer a tower speaker....rear surrounds i prefer dipole or bipole vs. a direct radiating speaker...they disperse the sound better.
Don't skimp on your center channel speaker..80% of dialog comes from the center channel.

I learned a lot on DIY Speakers and Subs (http://www.avsforum.com/f/155/diy-speakers-and-subs) and Home Theater Forum - Home Theater Systems - HomeTheaterShack (http://www.hometheatershack.com/#axzz2CoTJfX5i)



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plugitin
11-21-2012, 03:16 AM
i appreciate the replies. I like your setup.

and i live in upper michigan, so its a bit far from florida, lol.

galacticmonkey
11-21-2012, 05:08 AM
I meant as long as it wasnt something like Cali, Alaska, Hawaii, or Canada. The offer stands if you want. A little 100w amplifier in a 2 cubes box tuned real low would be perfect for it for HT duty.

CaddieJapan
12-31-2012, 07:04 AM
For that price I would go with Epik subwoofers. The Legend or Empire should do the trick. They perform very well.