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PIMPSLAPN
11-15-2012, 11:42 AM
im trying to figure out what dimensions i should use for 4 of these 15s an what amp to get 1,500 rms per sub

>>SQL<<
11-15-2012, 12:13 PM
I do not think those 2.5" voice coils would like 1,500 watts for more than a few seconds.

4 of those seem like a real waste to me, you could have gotten 2 decent subs for the same money and been way ahead.

I would look at running a 1,000 watts total (250 each) to them.

The box they recommend seems way to small, they recommend 1.2 cubed ported - I would think 3 cubes each would be much better.

Dtrom
11-15-2012, 12:28 PM
They won't handle 1500 rms. Id give them 500w or so each to be safe.

Dirtrider4eva
11-15-2012, 12:46 PM
im trying to figure out what dimensions i should use for 4 of these 15s an what amp to get 1,500 rms per sub

500 rms each. so you need 2k rms. soundstream rubicon 2500.1 would fit you bill cheaply. crescendo bc2k. audioque 2200d.
as for a design. look around 10 cubes total maybe 12cubes.
however what vehicle? whats your max dimensions?

dragon.breath
11-15-2012, 12:47 PM
Those subs are very over rated. A guy I work with had a pair of those. The coils would get stinky with a 1000 watt rms amplifier. ( massive p1000.1)
IMHO anything over about 350 watts rms per sub is just asking for trouble.

jteske88
11-15-2012, 12:49 PM
i watched a kill blow a set of these up on 1k rms. for 2 15's. op good luck, better get a gas mask once them things start to smoke

PIMPSLAPN
11-15-2012, 05:04 PM
im hearing from people if you hook them up right there a decent sub

LMAO , shaking everything! 4 12&#39;&#39; boss audio - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LxUMeCw0bw)

Joe89
11-15-2012, 05:09 PM
The question isn't whether or not the subs could sound decent.

A talented installer can make some very poor quality subs sound decent, even great, while someone of average skill would end up with something that sounds horrible. Give the same talented installer better equipment and it will sound amazing... Why limit yourself with low quality equipment?

TheUnderFighter
11-15-2012, 05:18 PM
im hearing from people if you hook them up right there a decent sub

LMAO , shaking everything! 4 12&#39;&#39; boss audio - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LxUMeCw0bw)

You're hearing wrong. They are boss, and they are junk. If you want a cheap crappy sub that will actually work, look into audiopipe. Yes, the Boss subs will make noise. No, it won't sound good. No they won't last. No they won't take that power level. I'd go 500w at the very most. Something like this pile of junk would be much better: AUDIOPIPE TXX-BE15 15" 2000W DVC Car Audio Subwoofer : TXXBE15 : VMInnovations.com (http://www.vminnovations.com/Product_8102/AUDIOPIPE-TXX-BE15-15-2000W-DVC-Car-Audio-Subwoofer.html)
In my opinion though, you'd be much better off saving up $30 or so more, and getting an OA-15. Those will actually sound good, and last, and easily take a clean 1k. Their 15" go for $150 plus shipping. They are really great budget subs. They are able to keep the price low by only using a word-of-mouth advertisement and putting their profits right back into the subwoofers.

DB-Audio
11-15-2012, 05:25 PM
you know op honestly boss is like pyle built for looks not performance but I would listen to these guys here put around 2k to all of them and you should be fine

>>SQL<<
11-15-2012, 05:50 PM
Here is my question...

You have the budget to run 4,500 watt amp and electrical (batteries, wires, alternator) but can only afford Boss Subs?

I think you have no idea what it really takes to run a 4,500 watt sub stage if you did you would not think Boss would be a part of it.

>>SQL<<
11-15-2012, 05:51 PM
These are the subs OP is talking about running 1,500 watts each to.

http://i.seimg.net/images/441617/big/p156dvc.jpg
http://i.seimg.net/images/441798/big/p156dvc.jpg

Julian
11-15-2012, 05:54 PM
What does a video prove? lulz

Devil Tiger
11-15-2012, 05:56 PM
^lolz the plastic vanity pieces are bigger than the motor

bgowdy31
11-15-2012, 06:09 PM
yea you should have went with 2 decent 15s instead, like audioque sdc2.5 15s 2 of these are about the same cost as all 4 of those

PIMPSLAPN
11-15-2012, 06:39 PM
all the people that say there garbage are you sayn this out of personal experience?

>>SQL<<
11-15-2012, 07:21 PM
all the people that say there garbage are you sayn this out of personal experience?


Let me try to help you, look with your eyes.

Cheap Garbage Sub
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/assets/ProductImages/Pyle_PLPW15D.jpg

Cheap Garbage sub with plastic cover over motor and basket to make it look larger / better

http://i.seimg.net/images/441617/big/p156dvc.jpg

real 15" subwoofer

http://cdn0.showtimecaraudio.net/assets/z-v3-15-angle.jpg

See the difference?

JoeK
11-15-2012, 07:38 PM
For $69 you would be better off with Powerbass M or S series

ThatChevyGuy
11-15-2012, 07:44 PM
Qpower deluxe 15 is the best cheap sub.

PIMPSLAPN
11-15-2012, 08:28 PM
i realize there not quality subs but i aint about to spend more on the system then the whole car.. idk

>>SQL<<
11-15-2012, 09:03 PM
i realize there not quality subs but i aint about to spend more on the system then the whole car.. idk

I understand.

Unless you have a SUV or something big I do not see a 12 cubic ft box fitting.

Also to run a true 4,500 watt system it will cost over $1,000 and that is with buying smart.

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 10:33 AM
if each sub only gets 500 rms each then that's 2000 also that video i posted is similar to my car so im thinking i could make it work.. i mean this aint my dream build.. this is my budget build.. people i talked to online are saying the same thing that if there hooked up right there is no distortion an is actually a decent sub.. also saying to stay away from there amps

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 10:38 AM
im gonna try an keep stock electrical only doin the big 3 no alternator

DB-Audio
11-16-2012, 10:41 AM
on 2000 watts you can get away with big 3 and no alt but you will need a bigger battery upfront

av83
11-16-2012, 10:42 AM
You're hearing wrong. They are boss, and they are junk. If you want a cheap crappy sub that will actually work, look into audiopipe. Yes, the Boss subs will make noise. No, it won't sound good. No they won't last. No they won't take that power level. I'd go 500w at the very most. Something like this pile of junk would be much better: AUDIOPIPE TXX-BE15 15" 2000W DVC Car Audio Subwoofer : TXXBE15 : VMInnovations.com (http://www.vminnovations.com/Product_8102/AUDIOPIPE-TXX-BE15-15-2000W-DVC-Car-Audio-Subwoofer.html)
In my opinion though, you'd be much better off saving up $30 or so more, and getting an OA-15. Those will actually sound good, and last, and easily take a clean 1k. Their 15" go for $150 plus shipping. They are really great budget subs. They are able to keep the price low by only using a word-of-mouth advertisement and putting their profits right back into the subwoofers.

I used to have that same AP sub. The only reason I got rid of it is because the surround design they used to have on it was poorly designed and went bad. They have since moved to a standard design. That sub was actually quite good for the money, and now that the surround has been improved, I would not hesitate to run it again. Far from a pile of junk, imo. And a great alternative to BOSS.

DoesDad
11-16-2012, 11:11 AM
Qpower deluxe 15 is the best cheap sub.

There's always the QPower Deluxe's in the pawn shops around here. The ones that are double stitched with the bigger motors are pretty impressive for how cheap they are. Saw a guy at CarTunes here that had 3 15's and they got down! He only had about 1500 watts on all 3 but I was pretty impressed. Especially after he said they were 80 bucks a piece. Lol!

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 11:32 AM
so those 2 audio pipes 15 will produce more bass than 4 boss audio 15s?

4 Boss Audio 15s flexing, woofer **** and can trick - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M4bqN-5Rcg)

skylineTT
11-16-2012, 11:39 AM
I think It was stated previously but you can get 2 Obsidian Audio 15's for about the same price as 4 of those Boss subs, or 2 Audioque SDC2.5 15's. The pair will be much better than the Boss woofers.

NT_Hardcore
11-16-2012, 12:13 PM
is there better out? yes. can these sound decent. yes. we did a build for 2 12 boss phantoms (customer already had them) and the sounded good in a proper enclosure. i do not recall how much power he had tho. it wasnt much-

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 12:24 PM
so 2 quality subs will flex harder then 4 boss audio even with way less cone area being pushed?

NT_Hardcore
11-16-2012, 12:31 PM
so 2 quality subs will flex harder then 4 boss audio even with way less cone area being pushed?

more than likely yes. these are not anywhere near the same lvl as a quality built sub designed to do what we expect it to do

hispls
11-16-2012, 12:40 PM
all the people that say there garbage are you sayn this out of personal experience?

Probably everyone saying that has used similar. Every couple months there's a new all show no go 30$ china special.... they're all the same, poor performance, horrible quality control, high failure rate and 0 resale value.


if each sub only gets 500 rms each then that's 2000 also that video i posted is similar to my car so im thinking i could make it work.. i mean this aint my dream build.. this is my budget build.. people i talked to online are saying the same thing that if there hooked up right there is no distortion an is actually a decent sub.. also saying to stay away from there amps

I wonder what the guys online that say these are great are comparing against.


im gonna try an keep stock electrical only doin the big 3 no alternator

Well on the bright side, if you shop for amps the way you shop for subs your stock electrical will be fine to power "2000W" amp.


Seems like you're dead set in wasting a bunch of time, money, and materials into this build. Go for it, hell, go all the way and do the manufacturer reccomended 1.5 cube box..... get yourself on a meter and let us know how it pans out for you. I'd wager you'll make a setup like that youtube video and be blown away in the lanes by guys with a single 12.

av83
11-16-2012, 12:49 PM
I embarrassed some kid with two of those same 15" subs a while back.... And I only have one 15". It was built by ^that guy^....


Might wanna listen to him.

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 01:06 PM
Probably everyone saying that has used similar. Every couple months there's a new all show no go 30$ china special.... they're all the same, poor performance, horrible quality control, high failure rate and 0 resale value.



I wonder what the guys online that say these are great are comparing against.



Well on the bright side, if you shop for amps the way you shop for subs your stock electrical will be fine to power "2000W" amp.


Seems like you're dead set in wasting a bunch of time, money, and materials into this build. Go for it, hell, go all the way and do the manufacturer reccomended 1.5 cube box..... get yourself on a meter and let us know how it pans out for you. I'd wager you'll make a setup like that youtube video and be blown away in the lanes by guys with a single 12.

i really doubt a single 12 would be louder then 4 15s.. again are you saying this from personal experience with these subs? im still un sure about what im going with

different setups im considering

4 15s boss audio

1 Re Audio Sx18d4 18

2 Re Audio SEX15D2 *** 15d2

2 Power Acoustik MOFO 15-Inch Competition

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 01:09 PM
im open to suggestions trying to keep the subs around 400

av83
11-16-2012, 01:15 PM
i really doubt a single 12 would be louder then 4 15s.. again are you saying this from personal experience with these subs? im still un sure about what im going with

different setups im considering

4 15s boss audio

1 Re Audio Sx18d4 18

2 Re Audio SEX15D2 *** 15d2

2 Power Acoustik MOFO 15-Inch Competition

No to all of those... And if you saw what kinda twelve that guy can build...

JoeK
11-16-2012, 01:17 PM
i really doubt a single 12 would be louder then 4 15s.. again are you saying this from personal experience with these subs? im still un sure about what im going with

different setups im considering

4 15s boss audio

1 Re Audio Sx18d4 18

2 Re Audio SEX15D2 *** 15d2

2 Power Acoustik MOFO 15-Inch Competition


The guys on this forum can build a 10" louder than all of those...
SPLaudio ;

cfox10
11-16-2012, 01:23 PM
From personal experience... I went from.. 2 dual (the cheap plexiglass box walmart subs) to 2 phantom 15" subs pushed with 1800rms to each and they got hot very quickly and smelt bad. Then I went to a 500 rms to 2 kenwood excelon subs and it sounded MUCH better, then I went to 2000rms to 2 pioneer champion pros, it got loud. Then I listened around the forums and I've dabbled with some SA 12's, some JL, and some other brands which are leaps and bounds better.

4OZGLOVES
11-16-2012, 01:26 PM
I'm betting my 2 10's would walk all over 4 of those 15's

Loudmp5
11-16-2012, 01:26 PM
ill put my 1 gcon up against 4 of your boss subs bet ill win or with my sa 12 bring it

JoeK
11-16-2012, 01:27 PM
My DC XL would slammadamadingdong on only 1500 real rms all over those

ThatChevyGuy
11-16-2012, 01:33 PM
you could get 4 qpowers for under $400 but you would need at least a real 3k rms.


I would get two sundown sa-12s and a good amp to match

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 01:35 PM
alot of **** talking but no suggestions or personal experience..

kushy_dreams
11-16-2012, 01:37 PM
alot of **** talking but no suggestions or personal experience..


they have been telling you what to do left and right, you must be too stupid to realize that though.

4OZGLOVES
11-16-2012, 01:41 PM
alot of **** talking but no suggestions or personal experience..

We don't have personal expieriences with boss because we all know they are junk. Here is a suggestion do a search. There is lots if good budget subs out there. What kind of car or truck do you have and what's your full budget for everything, batts , alt, wire , enclosure.

myjaja
11-16-2012, 01:53 PM
so those 2 audio pipes 15 will produce more bass than 4 boss audio 15s?

4 Boss Audio 15s flexing, woofer **** and can trick - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M4bqN-5Rcg)

Decent but I did all that plus waaayyy more at a lower frequency off two real 12's in a trunk. :)

But really, if you really dont wanna take anyones advice, just buy the boss subs and find out for yourself. What kind of amps were you talking about? The way youre describing everything, I bet its just all max wattage and not real rms.

Loudmp5
11-16-2012, 01:53 PM
Some ppl ask questions they dont want the answer to i guess, and no ones talking chit were not in the dome.... were stating facts hoping you will listen boss=crap can

cdc351jeferson
11-16-2012, 02:07 PM
dude jsut get 2 quality 12's with your 400$ budget they will last alot longer and get louder wit hthe right box period sundown dc skar. hell anything cept boss pyle pyramid etc.

IonRL205
11-16-2012, 02:12 PM
Boss is bottom of the line car audio..there's a reason why it's so cheap. The uneducated buy it thinking they are getting a good deal but in reality they are not. Everybody that has told you those subs are good really don't know what a good setup sounds like.

Sure you'll get bass from the subs, but it probably won't be as loud as you want or the sound quality you want. Nobody here needs personal experiences with the subs, we know what they are and aren't capable of. Boss is known throughout the car audio world as being complete garbage...because it is.

Nowadays a good entry level woofer doesn't cost much and has great output/power handling. You should look into

Sundown SA series
Skar VVX series
Obsidian Audio

All these brands have a great entry level woofer that would fit into your budget that would destroy those boss 15s.

Simple video of my vvx 10s


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQbgNuzL_BE

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 02:12 PM
seems like without any personal experience those facts are really just opinions (possible opinions based off others opinions).. i realize these are cheap sub an you would have to be a dumb *** to compare these to dc or any of the other leading subwoofer brands.. but the videos im watchin shows they can hit an the price is in my range.. **** it imma have to ask dude on youtube for box design non of yall even used these before but know that it wont hit then i see videos showing the whole car flexing?

IonRL205
11-16-2012, 02:15 PM
seems like without any personal experience those facts are really just opinions (possible opinions based off others opinions).. i realize these are cheap sub an you would have to be a dumb *** to compare these to dc or any of the other leading subwoofer brands.. but the videos im watchin shows they can hit an the price is in my range.. **** it imma have to ask dude on youtube for box design non of yall even used these before but know that it wont hit then i see videos showing the whole car flexing?

I can make my whole car flex with a pair of 10s. Flex means nothing other than your car is poorly deadened.

If half this forum say the subs ****, it should tell you something that it's not worth your money

Another vid of my two 10s...idk if it will work though

Just some windshield movement | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=525930510770311&set=vb.100000601005909&type=3&theater)

cdc351jeferson
11-16-2012, 02:16 PM
seems like without any personal experience those facts are really just opinions (possible opinions based off others opinions).. i realize these are cheap sub an you would have to be a dumb *** to compare these to dc or any of the other leading subwoofer brands.. but the videos im watchin shows they can hit an the price is in my range.. **** it imma have to ask dude on youtube for box design non of yall even used these before but know that it wont hit then i see videos showing the whole car flexing?

how long will they flex the car for? 10 minutes before you smell coils ? dude with 400$ budget on subs you would be crazy to buy boss and you will kick your self in the *** later. not talkign trash but 2 proper 12's or 15's would stomp that setup period end of thread do what you wish its your money lol we tried warning you

cdc351jeferson
11-16-2012, 02:17 PM
even some american bass or dc entry level woofers i think they can be had for a reasonable price too

myjaja
11-16-2012, 02:17 PM
seems like without any personal experience those facts are really just opinions (possible opinions based off others opinions).. i realize these are cheap sub an you would have to be a dumb *** to compare these to dc or any of the other leading subwoofer brands.. but the videos im watchin shows they can hit an the price is in my range.. **** it imma have to ask dude on youtube for box design non of yall even used these before but know that it wont hit then i see videos showing the whole car flexing?


smitty?

NT_Hardcore
11-16-2012, 02:18 PM
i actually stated iv installed 2 of the 12" version. so were not all talking out the side of our necks-

cfox10
11-16-2012, 02:20 PM
seems like without any personal experience those facts are really just opinions (possible opinions based off others opinions).. i realize these are cheap sub an you would have to be a dumb *** to compare these to dc or any of the other leading subwoofer brands.. but the videos im watchin shows they can hit an the price is in my range.. **** it imma have to ask dude on youtube for box design non of yall even used these before but know that it wont hit then i see videos showing the whole car flexing?

I've had experience with them. They ****, period. My local shops won't even carry them, that's how bad they ****, and my local shop carries some cheap stuff

NoLoud4U
11-16-2012, 02:34 PM
Let the dude get his 4 15. Hes going to get some cheap max rated amp and hes going to clip the hell out of it and smoke the subs. BUT since he is clueless he is going to think its loud as hell and he will be one of those reviewers we all love on sites like sonic electronix.

towelie
11-16-2012, 02:38 PM
I got some Boss subs one time but had to return them because they didn't make me feel like much of a Bowse.

Why So Cereal?
11-16-2012, 02:46 PM
He's dead set on having 4 15s. He thinks its sounds boss-like. The Boss subs are cheap enough that he can get 4 of them and since he saw some youtube vids of them playing, he's now pretty much convinced that these are what he should get....therefore, all of you guys ITT suggesting better subs or alternatives are only wasting your time.

OP, get an amp, get a box and just play it. You'll likely be satisfied.

Just do yourself a favor and don't sit in any cars at shows with real setups and you'll be happy until the day the subs blow. :D

cdc351jeferson
11-16-2012, 02:48 PM
He's dead set on having 4 15s. He thinks its sounds boss-like. The Boss subs are cheap enough that he can get 4 of them and since he saw some youtube vids of them playing, he's now pretty much convinced that these are what he should get....therefore, all of you guys ITT suggesting better subs or alternatives are only wasting your time.

OP, get an amp, get a box and just play it. You'll likely be satisfied.

Just do yourself a favor and don't sit in any cars at shows with real setups and you'll be happy until the day the subs blow. :D

yea were wasting our time if it wasnt for me bored at work on the site i wouldnt waste anymore of my free time after the first few posts from 20 different people lol

Why So Cereal?
11-16-2012, 02:52 PM
yea were wasting our time if it wasnt for me bored at work on the site i wouldnt waste anymore of my free time after the first few posts from 20 different people lol

lol, I know the feeling bro. I'm surrounded by people just like this. I've learned to just let them run whatever they want. If I try to tell them whats better, it goes nowhere. The better subs cost more and instead of buying 4 12s, for example, they're now only able to buy 2 12s. To them, their setup just became weak. They like the idea of telling people how many subs they have. Getting louder with less is not a priority of theirs. Cant change that, don't stress yourself trying to.

cdc351jeferson
11-16-2012, 02:54 PM
lol, I know the feeling bro. I'm surrounded by people just like this. I've learned to just let them run whatever they want. If I try to tell them whats better, it goes nowhere. The better subs cost more and instead of buying 4 12s, for example, they're now only able to buy 2 12s. To them, their setup just became weak. They like the idea of telling people how many subs they have. Getting louder with less is not a priority of theirs. Cant change that, don't stress yourself trying to.

im just in for the buildlog!

Why So Cereal?
11-16-2012, 02:55 PM
im just in for the buildlog!

You mean the placement of the prefab and the plugging in of the 6000w maxx Pyle amp??

cfox10
11-16-2012, 02:58 PM
You mean the placement of the prefab and the plugging in of the 6000w maxx Pyle amp??

Lol.... I think we have so many of these people come into (and own) one of my local shops they thought I'd fall for buying some garbage power akoustik stuff marked up about 300% saying it was good. Then I started asking about ID, Morel, Rainbow, etc. (I was looking for components) and they were clueless. :/ They carried rockford prime, power akoustik, and some cheap MTX coax.

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 02:58 PM
crazy how well some of you think u know me when really we only met that one time when you walked in on me an your momma

cfox10
11-16-2012, 02:59 PM
crazy how well some of you think u know me when really we only met that one time when you walked in on me an your momma

worst attempt at being funny I think I've ever seen. Today is a sad day.

Why So Cereal?
11-16-2012, 03:00 PM
Lol.... I think we have so many of these people come into (and own) one of my local shops they thought I'd fall for buying some garbage power akoustik stuff marked up about 300% saying it was good. Then I started asking about ID, Morel, Rainbow, etc. (I was looking for components) and they were clueless. :/ They carried rockford prime, power akoustik, and some cheap MTX coax.
Most times they'll just make something up lol. I had a guy tell me once that Boston Acoustics was the lower lines of Power Acoustik....said that the PA stuff was more for big power loud setups. The BA stuff was lower line entry level flea market gear.

crazy how well some of you think u know me when really we only met that one time when you walked in on me an your momma
what are you, 12?

kat_black181
11-16-2012, 03:10 PM
This thread is full of fail. OP, WHY IN THE WORLD WILL YOU NOT LISTEN TO THEM???!!! These people are VERY knowledgeable on this sh*t, and they are TRYING to help you.... H*ll, some of these guys BUILD SUBS! You think they don't know what they're talking about?!

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 03:10 PM
worst attempt at being funny I think I've ever seen. Today is a sad day. your momma liked it :santa:

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 03:11 PM
mainly cuz out of the 20 people 2,3 actually have ever owed them an im wondering if its not just an opinion on the brand

Why So Cereal?
11-16-2012, 03:12 PM
This thread is full of fail. OP, WHY IN THE WORLD WILL YOU NOT LISTEN TO THEM???!!! These people are VERY knowledgeable on this sh*t, and they are TRYING to help you.... H*ll, some of these guys BUILD SUBS! You think they don't know what they're talking about?!

We don't be listening to dem boyz on da internet in da hood, yo. Pookie dyne da screet got dem Boss 15s in his Caprice dat be scrate bammin' yo. Dem boyz on da internet won't come to da hood and out-beat Pookie!

Why So Cereal?
11-16-2012, 03:13 PM
mainly cuz out of the 20 people 2,3 actually have ever owed them an im wondering if its not just an opinion on the brand

do u need to own a Prius to know its slow?

cdc351jeferson
11-16-2012, 03:13 PM
your momma liked it :santa:

dude no one is making fun of you your just being dumb now we were trying to help you spend your money wisley . go buy your subs and cheap amp and see how long it lasts. your on your own now dude

kat_black181
11-16-2012, 03:16 PM
mainly cuz out of the 20 people 2,3 actually have ever owed them an im wondering if its not just an opinion on the brand

Your logic is a bit flawed.... Go get the 4 15s, sweetie. By all means, I'm sure they will sound GREAT to you. Go ahead and run 1500w to each of them as well... Let's see how long your subs last on that power. Sh*t, let's just see how your stock batt and alt like it, too!

4OZGLOVES
11-16-2012, 03:21 PM
Your logic is a bit flawed.... Go get the 4 15s, sweetie. By all means, I'm sure they will sound GREAT to you. Go ahead and run 1500w to each of them as well... Let's see how long your subs last on that power. Sh*t, let's just see how your stock batt and alt like it, too!

Remember Kat , I'm sure the 6,000 watts he I talking about is from a pyramid 6000 or some other flea market junk to match the flea market junk subs. Maybe a dirty 1200 rms if he is lucky.

gckless
11-16-2012, 03:22 PM
do u need to own a Prius to know its slow?

Nope, just like you don't need to own a Camry to know it's fast. It's science. And you can't argue with science.

Why So Cereal?
11-16-2012, 03:22 PM
Nope, just like you don't need to own a Camry to know it's fast. It's science. And you can't argue with science.

Now I've gotta find more sig space lulz

kat_black181
11-16-2012, 03:25 PM
Remember Kat , I'm sure the 6,000 watts he I talking about is from a pyramid 6000 or some other flea market junk to match the flea market junk subs. Maybe a dirty 1200 rms if he is lucky.

Meh. No worry of ours. Just funny that people come looking for advice, then they get all pissy when you disagree with them. He's gonna think back to this thread when his car fills with smoke and/or he loses all power while driving down the road cuz he fried his battery and alternator....

gckless
11-16-2012, 03:28 PM
Remember Kat , I'm sure the 6,000 watts he I talking about is from a pyramid 6000 or some other flea market junk to match the flea market junk subs. Maybe a dirty 1200 rms if he is lucky.

If that much. But, I'll bet he will be drawing close to the same amperage as a clean 1.5k-2k when he inevitably drives that into clipping. Probably on no more than 4ga. wire.

I'd really like to see this build log too though lol. And the carnage that follows.

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 03:30 PM
We don't be listening to dem boyz on da internet in da hood, yo. Pookie dyne da screet got dem Boss 15s in his Caprice dat be scrate bammin' yo. Dem boyz on da internet won't come to da hood and out-beat Pookie! wow hear comes that internet gangster **** again.. when did makeing momma jokes become acting hard? ******* like you (yes i said *****) just over use that word so much its lost its meaning along with hater @ kat_black181 we discussed earlier in this thread that they would only be running 500rms to each which is realistic for my car without upgrading (also dude from youtube had them said he had them for a year before deciding to go with 2 18s no problems what so ever

Why So Cereal?
11-16-2012, 03:36 PM
******* like you (yes i said *****)

You said what, now?

I know u didn't call me a *****?!! ********* ******** ***** ***** take that!

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 03:36 PM
Remember Kat , I'm sure the 6,000 watts he I talking about is from a pyramid 6000 or some other flea market junk to match the flea market junk subs. Maybe a dirty 1200 rms if he is lucky.

wow where are you coming up with these numbers? could you remind me when i said this again? o yeah i didnt say that.. this the type of **** i mean ******* on hear assuming dumb ****

kat_black181
11-16-2012, 03:36 PM
wow hear comes that internet gangster **** again.. when did makeing momma jokes become acting hard? ******* like you (yes i said *****) just over use that word so much its lost its meaning along with hater @ kat_black181 we discussed earlier in this thread that they would only be running 500rms to each which is realistic for my car without upgrading (also dude from youtube had them said he had them for a year before deciding to go with 2 18s no problems what so ever


Dude from youtube... lol

What are his CREDENTIALS? You would honestly listen to a random dude on youtube over someone on here who BUILDS SUBWOOFERS?! Are you understanding here where you're going wrong?....Sh*t, why am I even trying? lol

And, honestly...a 15" sub that can only handle 500w?.... JOKE!!!!!

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 03:39 PM
lets be real 90 percent of the people in this thread are going off of what somebody else said an have never owned them

NT_Hardcore
11-16-2012, 03:39 PM
Dude from youtube... lol

What are his CREDENTIALS? You would honestly listen to a random dude on youtube over someone on here who BUILDS SUBWOOFERS?! Are you understanding here where you're going wrong?....Sh*t, why am I even trying? lol

And, honestly...a 15" sub that can only handle 500w?.... JOKE!!!!!

to be fair where are the member credentials listed on here? anyone can type some ish into a sig and feel good online. jus sayin-

>>SQL<<
11-16-2012, 03:40 PM
mainly cuz out of the 20 people 2,3 actually have ever owed them an im wondering if its not just an opinion on the brand

Dude I do not have to own junk to know what junk is.
Boss is a flea market junk brand aimed at people who do not know better or ********* who just want to say they have 4 - 15's in their car cause they think that makes them cool.
Those subs are garbage and everyone but you understands that.

cdc351jeferson
11-16-2012, 03:42 PM
wow hear comes that internet gangster **** again.. when did makeing momma jokes become acting hard? ******* like you (yes i said *****) just over use that word so much its lost its meaning along with hater @ kat_black181 we discussed earlier in this thread that they would only be running 500rms to each which is realistic for my car without upgrading (also dude from youtube had them said he had them for a year before deciding to go with 2 18s no problems what so ever

youve got your mind made up just go waste your 400$ and dont listen to a real system . if you heard any one of ours after you install yours youd be unhappy with your purchase that much i guarantee

kat_black181
11-16-2012, 03:45 PM
lets be real 90 percent of the people in this thread are going off of what somebody else said an have never owned them

You're not understanding the concept. Meh. Like we told ya, do what you want. Have fun.


to be fair where are the member credentials listed on here? anyone can type some ish into a sig and feel good online. jus sayin-

While this may be true to a certain extent, there are quite a few people here who make their living, partially or otherwise, from ca. Building subwoofers in and of itself is a pretty big credential imo.

>>SQL<<
11-16-2012, 03:46 PM
im trying to figure out what dimensions i should use for 4 of these 15s an what amp to get 1,500 rms per sub


Remember Kat , I'm sure the 6,000 watts he I talking about is from a pyramid 6000 or some other flea market junk to match the flea market junk subs. Maybe a dirty 1200 rms if he is lucky.


]wow where are you coming up with these numbers[/B]? could you remind me when i said this again? o yeah i didnt say that.. this the type of **** i mean ******* on hear assuming dumb ****


Really you didn't say THAT???

JoeK
11-16-2012, 03:47 PM
mainly cuz out of the 20 people 2,3 actually have ever owed them an im wondering if its not just an opinion on the brand

There's a reason only 2 people owned them. Car audio is about spending good money, if you think its a good deal, it probably isn't. Fork over or fork off.


Anybody sure this isnt smitty? :eyebrow:

NT_Hardcore
11-16-2012, 03:48 PM
You're not understanding the concept. Meh. Like we told ya, do what you want. Have fun.



While this may be true to a certain extent, there are quite a few people here who make their living, partially or otherwise, from ca. Building subwoofers in and of itself is a pretty big credential imo.


i am one of those ppl. but you wouldnt know unless you knew me. my point was anyone can say they build subs/enclosures ect ect ect. but no proof is provided. its silly to assume that going to a car audio forum equals everyone being a "pro". i do agree when every post is telling you that your doing it wrong, 9.9 times out of 10 you prob. are-

JoeK
11-16-2012, 03:49 PM
i am one of those ppl. but you wouldnt know unless you knew me. my point was anyone can say they build subs/enclosures ect ect ect. but no proof is provided. its silly to assume that going to a car audio forum equals everyone being a "pro". i do agree when every post is telling you that your doing it wrong, 9.9 times out of 10 you prob. are-

i started the same this guy did, it took me about $400 in burned amps, subs, and wire to finally get it right

and by this guy i mean pimpsmitty

Why So Cereal?
11-16-2012, 03:51 PM
There's a reason only 2 people owned them. Car audio is about spending good money, if you think its a good deal, it probably isn't. Fork over or fork off.


Anybody sure this isnt smitty? :eyebrow:
I'm pretty sure it is.

I'm having fun either way before work.

NT_Hardcore
11-16-2012, 03:53 PM
i started the same this guy did, it took me about $400 in burned amps, subs, and wire to finally get it right

and by this guy i mean pimpsmitty

i did as well. but i caught on quick to who was winning events and wanted to learn what they knew. alot of the info in here is spot on, but OP isnt going to listen.

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I'm pretty sure it is.

I'm having fun either way before work.

its a lot more fun while at work lol

JoeK
11-16-2012, 03:54 PM
i did as well. but i caught on quick to who was winning events and wanted to learn what they knew. alot of the info in here is spot on, but OP isnt going to listen.

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its a lot more fun while at work lol

I didn't listen either. Problem for me was i didn't have a job then so i went cheapest i could get... Once i got a job i started to get wise with my investments seeing as i didnt want to waste any of my earned cash.

Either way, i like how 'this one guy on youtube' is more knowledgable and less biased than everybody else on this forum, collectively.

NT_Hardcore
11-16-2012, 03:55 PM
I didn't listen either. Problem for me was i didn't have a job then so i went cheapest i could get... Once i got a job i started to get wise with my investments seeing as i didnt want to waste any of my earned cash.

Either way, i like how 'this one guy on youtube' is more knowledgable and less biased than everybody else on this forum, collectively.


its the age old "my boy breaks other cars windshield" syndrome lol

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 03:56 PM
im not going to be entering any comps

whats about two of these

Lanzar OPTI1535D Optidrive 15

JoeK
11-16-2012, 03:57 PM
im not going to be entering any comps

whats about two of these

Lanzar OPTI1535D Optidrive 15

Better, but for that price you could do much much better.

PB 3xl-152D for one. I loved that sub

NT_Hardcore
11-16-2012, 03:57 PM
lanzar is a tricky company. the older opti subs were decent. the newer ones not so much. most of the amps are so so. the opti line of amps does good tho. so its a toss up. new opti sub meh, older opti sub go for it

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 03:57 PM
also iv had 1 account since iv been hear so lets not start that ****

NT_Hardcore
11-16-2012, 03:58 PM
pb 3xl ftw. even if you can only afford one

JoeK
11-16-2012, 03:59 PM
also iv had 1 account since iv been hear so lets not start that ****

Why not just take our advice? Instead of finding bargain junk let us find you something that will work. It's that simple, let us do it all...

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 04:00 PM
i mean really id be satisfied just getting that chest hurt feeling

gckless
11-16-2012, 04:00 PM
You know you're dumb when you've got Kat calling you dumb....

JoeK
11-16-2012, 04:04 PM
i mean really id be satisfied just getting that chest hurt feeling

Then. LISTEN. TO. US. I didn't listen back when i joined, and guess what happened? 5 dead woofers, 2 dead amps, and $60 in melted wiring kits

kat_black181
11-16-2012, 04:07 PM
You know you're dumb when you've got Kat calling you dumb....

Woah, now! lol

Timmy13091
11-16-2012, 04:07 PM
You know you're dumb when you've got Kat calling you dumb....

Lmao... Truth... Grab the boss 15s bro they slam so hard you'll be amazed your gunna need at least 2k rms to each tho there monsters... You see all the plastic .. Ya that means its loud bro ... Trust me I know these things grab a ssl amp they go awesome together and if ur really trying to stunt get a car like the one in the first vid u posted and you'll be in buisness

myjaja
11-16-2012, 04:11 PM
Lmao... Truth... Grab the boss 15s bro they slam so hard you'll be amazed your gunna need at least 2k rms to each tho there monsters... You see all the plastic .. Ya that means its loud bro ... Trust me I know these things grab a ssl amp they go awesome together and if ur really trying to stunt get a car like the one in the first vid u posted and you'll be in buisness

That's exactly what smitty wants to hear.

Timmy13091
11-16-2012, 04:13 PM
That's exactly what smitty wants to hear.

Bro if u don't know u better hit up the flea market and ask somebody!

4OZGLOVES
11-16-2012, 04:17 PM
Let the dude get his 4 15. Hes going to get some cheap max rated amp and hes going to clip the hell out of it and smoke the subs. BUT since he is clueless he is going to think its loud as hell and he will be one of those reviewers we all love on sites like sonic electronix.

Listen here guys I picked up these 2 p1 12's and a legacy 5000 amp and got meters the other day , **** knocks yo 165 deeebeeeezzzz I broke my back window.

JoeK
11-16-2012, 04:22 PM
Listen here guys I picked up these 2 p1 12's and a legacy 5000 amp and got meters the other day , **** knocks yo 165 deeebeeeezzzz I broke my back window.

dont have on the p1s.. theyre actually not too bad lol

av83
11-16-2012, 04:26 PM
alot of **** talking but no suggestions or personal experience..

Ummm.. I would call shaming someone with two of them, to my one, personal experience. He had decent power and a nice enclosure, so its not like he had every advantage... Dude, if you are on a budget spend on stuff that doesn't come with horror stories attached.

Timmy13091
11-16-2012, 04:33 PM
dont have on the p1s.. theyre actually not too bad lol

Lol u crazy there flimsy garbage

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Listen here guys I picked up these 2 p1 12's and a legacy 5000 amp and got meters the other day , **** knocks yo 165 deeebeeeezzzz I broke my back window.

**** how many capacitors you got runnin bro ?

4OZGLOVES
11-16-2012, 04:38 PM
Lol u crazy there flimsy garbage

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**** how many capacitors you got runnin bro ?
No cap needed yo , ize only drop to 9.5 voltz my boy saiz ya safe down to 7

Timmy13091
11-16-2012, 04:50 PM
No cap needed yo , ize only drop to 9.5 voltz my boy saiz ya safe down to 7

**** ur boy must be like a scientist ... That's what's good bro

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 04:51 PM
ha so lame you gotta go off other people jokes.. if you hear talkin get the **** on

jungstah
11-16-2012, 04:53 PM
ha so lame you gotta go off other people jokes.. if you hear talkin get the **** on

so you still set on those boss woofers?

PIMPSLAPN
11-16-2012, 04:54 PM
Bro if u don't know u better hit up the flea market and ask somebody! i will take your ****.

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im out to many lil ******* on this forum

jungstah
11-16-2012, 04:56 PM
i will take your ****.

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im out to many lil ******* on this forum

If you're just trying to get someone to agree with you, throw a comment up on youtube and grab thumbs up to feel good about yoursef.

Don't get butthurt when the community on here slaps you with THE TRUF.

mylows10
11-16-2012, 05:03 PM
here's a great design for your subs
http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt96/msokoloski1/trashcans.jpg

Timmy13091
11-16-2012, 05:04 PM
i will take your ****.

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im out to many lil ******* on this forum

You will take nothing ... Sweet avatar bro take ur boss **** back to the trash where it belongs ... We gave you advice but you and your you tube buddy know it all .. Bottom line your ish weak no body likes u or wants to help ya so go drink some bleach cut your wrists or whatever u and ur buddies spend your Fridays doing later

Timmy13091
11-16-2012, 05:05 PM
here's a great design for your subs
http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt96/msokoloski1/trashcans.jpg

Lmao .... Don't spend to much on one I think I got one out back 4 ya bro

pro-rabbit
11-16-2012, 05:09 PM
Is there a reason for all the post dumping out side the dome?

Timmy13091
11-16-2012, 05:12 PM
Is there a reason for all the post dumping out side the dome?

Ya because the op is trash talking

pro-rabbit
11-16-2012, 05:16 PM
Ya because the op is trash talking

This is still not the dome. Even if the OP dumps in his own thread report it please.

Thanks