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sjv13
11-07-2012, 05:37 PM
I have some entry-level focals right now. They certainly get the job done, but I feel like there should be more punch/kick coming from things like snare drum hits, etc.

So yeah, recommend me something. A personal review of what you are recommending would be nice too.

Looking to stay around the 75+ wrms rating too.

sjv13
11-07-2012, 05:44 PM
Wow, so sorry I didnt even realize there was a thread with almost this exact title two from the top of the list. haha.

KyleBechtold
11-07-2012, 05:48 PM
until the last requirement I would have recommended XS65s.. sonic Electronix had em on sale for the mids for 160 a while back.. the tweets were 80 so 240 for a GREAT set

audiobaun
11-07-2012, 05:51 PM
Ive been through alot of components over the years, and a good friend of mine talked me into getting a set of cdt, AND THEY ARE FANTASTIC FOR WHAT i PAID FOR THEM!! The vocals are amazing,the highs are impressive, and the mid can be brute,or even mellow.I have approx 100rms on them.These are what I have, but got a much better deal on them.MyLows on this Forum sells the newest and latest models with full warranty.LOL while writting this you popped up needing 2" depth??
Well,one set I have, and the second are also going back up front as well,that may be just fine for you
WoofersEtc.com - ES-063it - CDT Audio 6.5" 2-Way Mid-bass Enhanced Braxial Component Set (http://www.woofersetc.com/p-9702-es-063it-cdt-audio-65-2-way-mid-bass-enhanced-braxial-component-set.aspx)
WoofersEtc.com - CL-62 - CDT Audio 6.5" 2 Way Component Speakers (http://www.woofersetc.com/p-5023-cl-62-cdt-audio-65-2-way-component-speakers.aspx)

audiobaun
11-07-2012, 05:52 PM
WoofersEtc.com - CL-E61NEO - CDT Audio Classic Series 6.5" Slim Mount Component Speakers (http://www.woofersetc.com/p-5831-cl-e61neo-cdt-audio-classic-series-65-slim-mount-component-speakers.aspx)
Slim Lineup

zako
11-07-2012, 05:52 PM
Massive Audio CK6 III/V/X are some of the best for bass extension and overall sound. Good power handling. Another interesting set is the new JBL MS-62C. A few other interesting speakers are JL Audio C3, C5, and Polk Audio MM.


Here are some reviews:

HAT I6 vs Massive CK3 - DIYMA Car Audio Forum (http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/member-reviews-product-comparisons/105688-hat-i6-vs-massive-ck3.html)

JBL MS-62c First impressions. These surprised the hell out of me! - DIYMA Car Audio Forum (http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/member-reviews-product-comparisons/129512-jbl-ms-62c-first-impressions-these-surprised-hell-out-me.html)

polk mm6501 or JL C3 6.5 or JL C5 - DIYMA Car Audio Forum (http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/general-car-audio-discussion/138931-polk-mm6501-jl-c3-6-5-jl-c5.html)


I would also toss Hybrid Audio Unity into the mix, but they cost about $350 online. Maybe they're cheaper at a dealer. Bass is well composed and detailed, but not really that loud without a subwoofer. Very good power handling. Overall a great high end speaker. These are effectively the same as the cheaper HAT Imagine, but with a better passive crossover network. The HAT Imagine is a good set as far as raw drivers are concerned but you have to run them active IMO.

sjv13
11-07-2012, 05:53 PM
until the last requirement I would have recommended XS65s.. sonic Electronix had em on sale for the mids for 160 a while back.. the tweets were 80 so 240 for a GREAT set

If I make my own bracket out of MDF, do you think I could get more than the 2-1/4" of top mount depth I have right now with the stock plastic bracket?

audiobaun
11-07-2012, 06:01 PM
If I make my own bracket out of MDF, do you think I could get more than the 2-1/4" of top mount depth I have right now with the stock plastic bracket?

Well if you need 2" as stated before, and could go with 2 1/4, use 1/2-3/4 and you shouldnt have any issues, or buy some pods, and be able to put whatever you want in them,or if you are good building, and have the patience you can make you some also wrap them in whatever youd like also.Here are some pods that might work for you,a little more money to spend, but can give you more options for other depths of components
+07 GM Fullsize Truck Dual Speaker Front Door Pods (http://www.customspeakerpods.com/Front-Door-Dual-Speaker-Pods-GM-01-02-01-B.htm)

sjv13
11-07-2012, 06:02 PM
Ive been through alot of components over the years, and a good friend of mine talked me into getting a set of cdt, AND THEY ARE FANTASTIC FOR WHAT i PAID FOR THEM!! The vocals are amazing,the highs are impressive, and the mid can be brute,or even mellow.I have approx 100rms on them.These are what I have, but got a much better deal on them.MyLows on this Forum sells the newest and latest models with full warranty.LOL while writting this you popped up needing 2" depth??
Well,one set I have, and the second are also going back up front as well,that may be just fine for you
WoofersEtc.com - ES-063it - CDT Audio 6.5" 2-Way Mid-bass Enhanced Braxial Component Set (http://www.woofersetc.com/p-9702-es-063it-cdt-audio-65-2-way-mid-bass-enhanced-braxial-component-set.aspx)
WoofersEtc.com - CL-62 - CDT Audio 6.5" 2 Way Component Speakers (http://www.woofersetc.com/p-5023-cl-62-cdt-audio-65-2-way-component-speakers.aspx)

Yeah, my doors must be pretty shallow. On crutchfield when I put in my car the deepest one I see that comes up is 2-1/4"

mylows10
11-07-2012, 06:02 PM
I can help

sjv13
11-07-2012, 06:06 PM
Well if you need 2" as stated before, and could go with 2 1/4, use 1/2-3/4 and you shouldnt have any issues, or buy some pods, and be able to put whatever you want in them,or if you are good building, and have the patience you can make you some also wrap them in whatever youd like also.Here are some pods that might work for you,a little more money to spend, but can give you more options for other depths of components
+07 GM Fullsize Truck Dual Speaker Front Door Pods (http://www.customspeakerpods.com/Front-Door-Dual-Speaker-Pods-GM-01-02-01-B.htm)

Yeah, the plastic bracket sticks out quite a bit from the door

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The door pod wouldnt work though because when I close the door, the speaker is pretty close to the side of my dash. Hard to explain, but look at this picture and try to imagine it with the door closed. It ends up being next to where the yellow and white warning sticker is.

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EDTIT: Okay, so maybe not that close to the sticker, as it isnt that close the front of the car when the door is closed... but either way, those door pods would hit in that location when I close the door.

audiobaun
11-07-2012, 06:16 PM
Yeah, the plastic bracket sticks out quite a bit from the door

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The door pod wouldnt work though because when I close the door, the speaker is pretty close to the side of my dash. Hard to explain, but look at this picture and try to imagine it with the door closed. It ends up being next to where the yellow and white warning sticker is.

26537365

EDTIT: Okay, so maybe not that close to the sticker, as it isnt that close the front of the car when the door is closed... but either way, those door pods would hit in that location when I close the door.
What kind of vehicle is it??By the way..that kinda blows being close to the side of the dash like that.Id have to look at the door personally to see what could work..maybe a car lot vehicle same as yours.Kind of a shame to have the speaker blaring into the side of the dash,not good for SQ thus far.another option would be to use kick panels like by Qlogic, and maybe put a midrange in the original speaker location/run a 3 way set up would be really nice

mylows10
11-07-2012, 06:19 PM
I have some custom door pods I could sell you

audiobaun
11-07-2012, 06:20 PM
Is it the Volvo in your sig?2000 model?Ive never messed with a volvo before..Id sure find a way to run a good set of components though,if I could.id have to go look at a Volvo/check one out

sjv13
11-07-2012, 06:28 PM
I have some custom door pods I could sell you

I'm not sure I'm into that much customization. This is my first car, and dont want to put too much into it that I cant take out, just in case if I get in an accident it, or sell it.


Is it the Volvo in your sig?2000 model?Ive never messed with a volvo before..Id sure find a way to run a good set of components though,if I could.id have to go look at a Volvo/check one out

Yeah, it's the Volvo. The wagon is awesome as I will be able to have niceee substage (plan to add another type-r 12" and 500w alpine).
I kind of over-exaggerated about all the sound going into the side of the dash. Most of it really goes into the cabin, but there is some overlap I think. I dont really remember at the moment. I'll get a pic up in 30 min or so.

myjaja
11-07-2012, 06:32 PM
I have these in my car and they sound amazing! Theyre a little more than what youre spending but theyre worth it.

ES 6mo CDT Audio 6 5" 2 Way Pro Component Speakers Mids Tweeters Crossovers New | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ES-6MO-CDT-AUDIO-6-5-2-WAY-PRO-COMPONENT-SPEAKERS-MIDS-TWEETERS-CROSSOVERS-NEW-/120849316938?pt=Car_Speakers&hash=item1c232e3c4a&vxp=mtr)

mylows10
11-07-2012, 06:41 PM
2653736626537367the pods are designed to sit on the top of the door panels in almost any area of it ,and are attached to the panels from the back side .so thyey can be easily removed just as attached .i can paint them any color you want to match your interior ,and have the components for them also

audiobaun
11-07-2012, 06:51 PM
I have these in my car and they sound amazing! Theyre a little more than what youre spending but theyre worth it.

ES 6mo CDT Audio 6 5" 2 Way Pro Component Speakers Mids Tweeters Crossovers New | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ES-6MO-CDT-AUDIO-6-5-2-WAY-PRO-COMPONENT-SPEAKERS-MIDS-TWEETERS-CROSSOVERS-NEW-/120849316938?pt=Car_Speakers&hash=item1c232e3c4a&vxp=mtr)

I like the sensivity ,and the Hertz range on those!!How you like CDT in general?I really like mine.I think they sound fantastic.I was leaning towards Hertz MLK after I heard my good friends set up.He is into more high end of SQ,and Im into more SPL..hard to find the happy medium, but Im trying:)

audiobaun
11-07-2012, 06:53 PM
2653736626537367the pods are designed to sit on the top of the door panels in almost any area of it ,and are attached to the panels from the back side .so thyey can be easily removed just as attached .i can paint them any color you want to match your interior ,and have the components for them also
Now those are just plain BA mylows! If the OP doesnt grabb them up, hit me up for 2nds..PM me a price on them..Those light grey?

sjv13
11-07-2012, 07:06 PM
mylows10 & audiobahn

here is what I'm working with...

what?! they arent sideways on my comp

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mylows10
11-07-2012, 07:08 PM
Now those are just plain BA mylows! If the OP doesnt grabb them up, hit me up for 2nds..PM me a price on them..Those light grey?

yea they are they have the cdt mesh grills too had them made for my 4 runner by a teammate ,but sold the runner now i just have them laying around .they sound really good too.make me an offer .they had cdt es 6 mo mids and es 010 tweets in them ,but i had to cut a small hole in the panel for the mids to work .if you go with a slimmer mid like the es 62im or the cl 62sl mids then you wouldn't have any issues with mounting depth of the mid.

mylows10
11-07-2012, 07:10 PM
the cl 62 sl comp set is what you'll need 1.5 inch mounting depth on the mid . audiobahn hit me up man .im me

audiobaun
11-07-2012, 07:17 PM
mylows10 & audiobahn

here is what I'm working with...

what?! they arent sideways on my comp

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Yes sir..not alot you can do with that...a slim component setup, or midrange..but i do like the open pocket down at the bottom of the door that can be sealed off, and run a nice 8in in there up/or a decent size component setup

sjv13
11-07-2012, 07:28 PM
Yes sir..not alot you can do with that...a slim component setup, or midrange..but i do like the open pocket down at the bottom of the door that can be sealed off, and run a nice 8in in there up/or a decent size component setup

How would I go about sealing that off? And can you recommend something for that space? Not very expensive please. Is under $200 possible?

audiobaun
11-07-2012, 07:42 PM
How would I go about sealing that off? And can you recommend something for that space? Not very expensive please. Is under $200 possible?

Man you could play with some particle board to make the shape/cut out a bit larger for the opening,and use as a template, anduse 1/2-3/8 mdf/Birch,or even some plexy,and cover with vinyl/suade,or colored box carpeting even with some sound deadner inside the opening,and attatch with some nice screws/self tappers like chrome square head,to give a custom look,and a bit of a hassle for folks to remove quickly if ever broken into..lol.You can still use the CDT components in there, and will sound so much better than that stock location, and just add a mid in stock location,and run 2ohms stereo even.$200 for everything?No sir, but you will save alot by doing your self, and it will sound BA also.i have no doubt.:)

myjaja
11-07-2012, 08:03 PM
I like the sensivity ,and the Hertz range on those!!How you like CDT in general?I really like mine.I think they sound fantastic.I was leaning towards Hertz MLK after I heard my good friends set up.He is into more high end of SQ,and Im into more SPL..hard to find the happy medium, but Im trying:)

I love mine! I actually like them more going active. The tweeters sounded a bit harsh with the 550i crossover. Now they sound really good.

audiobaun
11-07-2012, 08:10 PM
I love mine! I actually like them more going active. The tweeters sounded a bit harsh with the 550i crossover. Now they sound really good.

:santa:Enjoying mine as well..some of the best ive bought within the budget in my opinion

av83
11-07-2012, 08:16 PM
Yeah, the plastic bracket sticks out quite a bit from the door

26537364

The door pod wouldnt work though because when I close the door, the speaker is pretty close to the side of my dash. Hard to explain, but look at this picture and try to imagine it with the door closed. It ends up being next to where the yellow and white warning sticker is.

26537365

EDTIT: Okay, so maybe not that close to the sticker, as it isnt that close the front of the car when the door is closed... but either way, those door pods would hit in that location when I close the door.

I'll go out on a short limb and say the problem is not your speakers at all... Those need sealed off properly. Even if all you did was add a ring of foam tape around the outer edge of the mid, it would increase response greatly.

Like this:
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/654/cdtinstall4.jpg

Deaden the doors as well, and I imagine the output from the set you have will satisfy you. Hit up keep_hope_alive ; for some good advice, too.

sjv13
11-07-2012, 08:41 PM
I'll go out on a short limb and say the problem is not your speakers at all... Those need sealed off properly. Even if all you did was add a ring of foam tape around the outer edge of the mid, it would increase response greatly.

Like this:
SNIP

Deaden the doors as well, and I imagine the output from the set you have will satisfy you. Hit up keep_hope_alive ; for some good advice, too.

hmmm... just adding that foam will help? I dont really want to put the time/money into deadening doors right now. The money:difference ratio just isnt there for me at this point in time. That foam I could definitely do though. My doors dont rattle at all and they are pretty solid too. And they dont have holes.

And I think I have already talked to him about sealing and brackets before.

sjv13
11-07-2012, 08:51 PM
Man you could play with some particle board to make the shape/cut out a bit larger for the opening,and use as a template, anduse 1/2-3/8 mdf/Birch,or even some plexy,and cover with vinyl/suade,or colored box carpeting even with some sound deadner inside the opening,and attatch with some nice screws/self tappers like chrome square head,to give a custom look,and a bit of a hassle for folks to remove quickly if ever broken into..lol.You can still use the CDT components in there, and will sound so much better than that stock location, and just add a mid in stock location,and run 2ohms stereo even.$200 for everything?No sir, but you will save alot by doing your self, and it will sound BA also.i have no doubt.:)

the gears have been turning in my head. I asked crutchfield and they said the mounting depth for the rear doors is 2.5." I dont currently have any speakers back there, so I thought maybe I could throw some of these in there. The rear door speakers are at the bottom of the door just behind the driver and passenger seats, so if I got something like this (CDT Audio Megabass CL-6 EMB (http://www.cdtaudio.com/sep_components/megabass/cl6emb.htm)) I think I would add that nice kick I'm looking for to the rear of the seats.

whitedragon551
11-07-2012, 09:04 PM
Its about install not gear.

sjv13
11-07-2012, 09:08 PM
Its about install not gear.

So if I do that foam thing, will that make a noticeable difference? I see you are from Michigan. Which city?

av83
11-07-2012, 09:18 PM
hmmm... just adding that foam will help? I dont really want to put the time/money into deadening doors right now. The money:difference ratio just isnt there for me at this point in time. That foam I could definitely do though. My doors dont rattle at all and they are pretty solid too. And they dont have holes.

And I think I have already talked to him about sealing and brackets before.

Yes. It will help, tremendously. And the amount of deadener needed for doors is very small. If you can afford the gear you have, you can afford 30 bucks in deadener.


Its about install not gear.

^this. I have cdt's basic, entry level speakers... however, they are installed nicely, and they flippin jam.

whitedragon551
11-07-2012, 09:20 PM
So if I do that foam thing, will that make a noticeable difference? I see you are from Michigan. Which city?

Yes. Your budget will allow you to do your front doors right. MLV, deadener, and closed cell foam.

Im not any where near you.

sjv13
11-07-2012, 09:21 PM
Yes. It will help, tremendously. And the amount of deadener needed for doors is very small. If you can afford the gear you have, you can afford 30 bucks in deadener.

What deadener would you suggest? Didnt realize it could be that cheap.

whitedragon551
11-07-2012, 09:23 PM
What deadener would you suggest? Didnt realize it could be that cheap.

Second Skin Audio or Sound Deadener Showdown. Best on the market.

sjv13
11-07-2012, 09:23 PM
Yes. Your budget will allow you to do your front doors right. MLV, deadener, and closed cell foam.

Im not any where near you.

OK. haha. Sorry, but what's MLV?

keep_hope_alive
11-08-2012, 12:11 AM
Mass Loaded Vinyl is used to block noise.

Seals are so important. Vital.

mlstrass
11-08-2012, 05:08 AM
blocking noise will NOT increase midbass punch. Deading/sealing large holes in the doors will help some, so I'd do that first.

If still not happy consider stepping up to a better set of speakers and try to demo them before buying.